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The King James Bible: 1611 - 2011
smithsk.blogspot.com ^ | December 10, 2011 | smithsk

Posted on 12/11/2011 2:17:18 PM PST by NEWwoman

This year, 2011, has marked the 400th anniversary of the King James Bible.

Check out this article:

Happy 400th Birthday To The King James Bible -- The Most Influential Book In The English Language

The headline of this article is no hyperbola.

From a literature standpoint - this translation is one of the greatest piece of literature in the English language. (reference: Why the King James Bible Endures)

From a scholarly standpoint - the bar was set very high in making this translation. (reference: An enduring legacy)

From a cultural standpoint - no other book has influenced so much of the English speaking world, such as the United Kingdom, the United States, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, .... (reference: King James Bible - Influence)

From an American standpoint - this version had a great influence in many of the American founding documents and laws. (reference: Concurrent Resolution (House & Senate) Recognizing the 400th Anniversary of the KJV)

The story of how this translation came about is rich in historical twists and players - saints, sinners, martyrs, persecutors. (For further reading, check out: English Bible History)

And now for the video clips highlighting the King James Bible ....

(Excerpt) Read more at smithsk.blogspot.com ...


TOPICS: Books/Literature; Education; History; Religion
KEYWORDS: bible; culture; english; kjv
Christmas Eve 1968 - this reading of the Apollo 8 astronauts from the KJV most memorable:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EreYmNM0N0s&feature=player_embedded

1 posted on 12/11/2011 2:17:35 PM PST by NEWwoman
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To: NEWwoman

The KJ Bible is the only English language Bible I trust through and through.

Its majestic cadences are easy to memorize and exude the authority you would expect from the Word of God.

There are more reasons.


2 posted on 12/11/2011 2:27:36 PM PST by Westbrook
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To: NEWwoman
Christmas Eve 1968 - this reading of the Apollo 8 astronauts from the KJV most memorable:

Yes, the good old days when we were an optimistic country who felt that we could accomplish anything. When our space program existed to push the frontiers of space rather than to show muslims that they contributed something.

I know I'm off topic here but I'm so tired of our "managed decline". I wish we could go back to the time when our country was forward looking and our President was proud of the nation and people he governed.

3 posted on 12/11/2011 2:27:44 PM PST by YankeeReb
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To: NEWwoman

From the Nat Geo Mag:

Apple of your eye...
old as the hills...
at death’s door...
at your wits end...
bite the dust...
haves and have nots...
buttering up...
scum of the earth...
skin of one’s teeth...
etc., etc.,

All from the KJV


4 posted on 12/11/2011 2:28:35 PM PST by Paisan
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To: NEWwoman

I usually quote from the King James Bible, with Apocrypha, even though I’m a Catholic. It has been by far the most-used and most-quoted Bible in the English speaking world.

There are a few minor problems with the translation, but nothing serious. And nothing like the problems with the modern, politically correct translations, which are far less accurate and stunningly ugly in style.

When I taught the Bible as literature, I used the Revised Standard Version, based on the KJV but slightly modernized. But that has been replaced by the New RSV, which is a major step backward into political correctness and stupidity. So I find myself continuing to go back to the KJV.


5 posted on 12/11/2011 2:29:59 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: NEWwoman; All

For your info, there was a digitally remastered replica of the 1611 bible available at Wal-Mart (and likely other stores) recently. I picked up a copy and, as I recall, it was just under $10.00. They probably still have them. Its Gothic print is difficult to read but I enjoy making the effort.


6 posted on 12/11/2011 2:35:51 PM PST by davisfh
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To: Westbrook

My brother was asked to read a KJV passage for a Christening. We went over the text and he asked for my advice on how it should be read. I told him that this was a LEGAL document, and, as a pre-law student, he should read it as such.
He ACED it.
Later, the congregation was effusive in their praise for his rendering...

Also, as a former Gideon, this is the ONLY version of the Scriptures, that they will place...


7 posted on 12/11/2011 2:47:05 PM PST by Paisan
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To: Westbrook

There are many good translations and more old texts to compare. But the KJV did set the bar very high and was made without the biases we have in our present age. And ... it’s beautiful.


8 posted on 12/11/2011 2:51:20 PM PST by NEWwoman (God Bless America)
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To: YankeeReb

As Homer Hickam (The Rocket Boys, aka October Sky) said - It’s time to be great again.

As long as “We the People” have the Spirit of 1776 - we can overcome a bad adminstration. If we loose our will, .... we get the leaders we deserve and we kill our country from within.


9 posted on 12/11/2011 2:56:15 PM PST by NEWwoman (God Bless America)
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To: Paisan

So I see your ...

handwriting on the (cyber) wall


10 posted on 12/11/2011 2:58:37 PM PST by NEWwoman (God Bless America)
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To: Cicero

From some of my reading, I understand the King James Version included the Apocrypha, until the 19th century. (In fact, in England there were heavy fines if the Apocrypha was not included in the early days.)

It is a beautiful version. And as any translation, some things are lost in translation.


11 posted on 12/11/2011 3:02:15 PM PST by NEWwoman (God Bless America)
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To: davisfh

I picked up one of these ... $4.99. What a deal!


12 posted on 12/11/2011 3:03:42 PM PST by NEWwoman (God Bless America)
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To: Paisan
The KJV rendition of King Solomon in Ecclesiastes is one of my favorites. It's just so beautiful and then so bleak by turns, it's almost more Shakepearean than the Bard himself.

To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven.

Vanity, vanity, all is vanity and vexation of spirit.

There is nothing new under the sun.

I've often wondered at his frequent repetition of "under the sun" and the sense of gravity that it carries. It has such effect. But, I'm not sure why. More reading, historical background of Solomon is in order.

13 posted on 12/11/2011 3:12:57 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: NEWwoman
It has stood the test of time, and it continues to.

The claims by contemporary translations to be based on superior critical apparatuses are mostly based on how early a given text is. The claim that the oldest manuscript is also the most accurate is just that, a claim. Prove it.

The claim that the language of the KJV is so archaic that people today cannot make heads nor tails of it is more often than not a self fulfilling prophecy.

An interesting thing about language is that there must be about a gazillion ways to say the same thing, which gives rise to to old adage that it “aint so much what you say as how you say it”. In my very humble opinion, the KJV translators have said things very well indeed.

14 posted on 12/11/2011 3:14:33 PM PST by hfr (Liberalism is a moral disorder that leads to mental disorder (actually it's sin))
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To: hfr

Amen. :)


15 posted on 12/11/2011 3:29:32 PM PST by NEWwoman (God Bless America)
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To: hfr
My ex-Boss was Porteguese, from the Azores. When he came to this country, he enrolled in an English as a Second Language Course - (ESL). They used the KJV of the Bible for their syllabus. One cannot get any closer to the TRUTH than that.
16 posted on 12/11/2011 3:43:30 PM PST by Paisan
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To: Paisan
Apple of your eye... old as the hills... at death’s door... at your wits end... bite the dust... haves and have nots... buttering up... scum of the earth... skin of one’s teeth... etc., etc.,

Let there be light... my brother's keeper... the tree of life... east of Eden... windows of heaven... gave up the ghost... for such a time as this... count the cost... it came to pass... fear not... eat, drink and be merry... sweet-smelling savor... scapegoat... a rod of iron... snared in the work of his own hands... heart's desire... judge not... the land of the living... contrite heart... the meek shall inherit the earth... let this cup pass... sheep for the slaughter... the ends of the earth... tender mercies... waxed strong... cup runneth over... beat their swords into plowshares... pride goeth before a fall... evil eye... a brawling woman... iron sharpeneth iron... strong drink... under the sun... vanity and vexation of spirit... to everything there is a season... a good name... the race is not to the swift... striving after wind... dead fly in the ointment... woe is me...

There are so many. And they are part of our discourse.

17 posted on 12/11/2011 4:01:42 PM PST by Migraine (Diversity is great; until it happens to YOU.)
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To: NEWwoman

The purpose of the King James Bible, which is based on the Wycliff Bible, was to present the Scriptures to the people in a language they understand. That is why it is written in 16th Century English.

This isn’t the 16th Century and we do not speak Middle English in everyday discourse. To insist on the sole use of the KJV in public worship runs against the very ideal that lead to the KJV in the first place. As Article XXIV says “It is a thing plainly repugnant to the Word of God, and the custom of the Primitive Church to have public Prayer in the Church, or to minister the Sacraments, in a tongue not understanded of the people.”


18 posted on 12/11/2011 4:06:06 PM PST by bobjam
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To: NEWwoman

bttt


19 posted on 12/11/2011 4:19:30 PM PST by Dante3
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To: NEWwoman

The KJV is the only Bible I trust...


20 posted on 12/11/2011 5:12:06 PM PST by ColdSteelTalon (Light is fading to shadow, and casting its shroud over all we have known...)
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To: NEWwoman; StrongandPround; lilyramone; crusadersoldier; Ellzeena; Anvilhead; stonehouse01; ...
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Please ping me to note-worthy Pro-Life or Catholic threads, or other threads of general interest.


21 posted on 12/11/2011 5:16:24 PM PST by narses
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To: bobjam
Beauty is truth, truth beauty.
22 posted on 12/11/2011 5:26:59 PM PST by Vide
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To: NEWwoman
The KJV of the Bible was so perfect that God used it as a template to dictate to Joseph Smith The Book of Mormon when his Angels appeared before Smith back in Ohio.
23 posted on 12/11/2011 5:44:14 PM PST by vetvetdoug
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To: davisfh

Details? Didn’t see one yet.


24 posted on 12/11/2011 6:25:24 PM PST by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com/)
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To: bobjam

I have no argument with what you said.

I own and read different versions - some modern - KJV - NKJV - even the Catholic version with Aprocrypha. With the internet and such sites as biblegateway, etc. ... it’s a God send.


25 posted on 12/11/2011 6:31:15 PM PST by NEWwoman (God Bless America)
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To: vetvetdoug

Now, vetvetdoug,
that’s dum! dum! dum! dum! dum!
http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/104253/joseph-smith-part-1


26 posted on 12/11/2011 6:36:58 PM PST by NEWwoman (God Bless America)
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To: narses

Thanks for the ping shout out. (did I say that right?)


27 posted on 12/11/2011 7:02:23 PM PST by NEWwoman (God Bless America)
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To: ctdonath2
Check in the book section at Wal-Mart. I believe that I erred in quoting the price. The USD price on the wrapper is $7.99 and I believe that I paid $4.97 for it at WM. The book had a brown binding and says "400th Anniversary Edition" at the bottom. It is a "digital" reproduction and has all of the original Gothic English script. Somewhat difficult to read, but I enjoy trying.

It measures 8.25 high by 5.5 wide and is 2.75 thick. Has a bit of a "boxy" appearance.

28 posted on 12/11/2011 9:53:49 PM PST by davisfh
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To: davisfh

Could you contrast your copy with this page: http://www.greatsite.com/facsimile-reproductions/kingjames-1611.html
(Claims most “1611” reprints aren’t.)


29 posted on 12/12/2011 6:24:24 AM PST by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com/)
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To: ctdonath2
The title pages that you can click on and enlarge are identical to mine. The book's spine is not identical though. Beginning at top of the spine (I've separated each with quotes to denote a change in level from top to bottom) "Holy Bible" "1611" "King James Version" "400th Anniversary Edition" and near the bottom "KJV (plus unreadable symbol)" and "ZON" "DER" "VAN"

I'm reasonably certain that the text is identical to those in your ad. The text is the typical Gothic print of that day and includes the confusion that we of today experience with some of the characters, e.g., confusion between "f" and "s" for example.

I feel fairly certain that what I have is a genuine copy and I am a bit suspicious of their ad. They, of course, are interested in selling their product and the price, if that can be regarded as an indicator, would denote a high quality product. Just a suggestion. If you can print a couple of their pages, take them with you and compare it to the $5.00 version you might feel a bit more confident (or not). Good luck.

30 posted on 12/12/2011 7:47:28 AM PST by davisfh
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To: NEWwoman

I personally prefer the NKJV, though I have several other translations.


31 posted on 12/15/2011 6:00:01 PM PST by bobjam
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To: bobjam

I have the NKJV and used it. Good choice.


32 posted on 12/15/2011 8:15:02 PM PST by NEWwoman (God Bless America)
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To: hfr
The claim that the language of the KJV is so archaic that people today cannot make heads nor tails of it is more often than not a self fulfilling prophecy.

Simply an excuse for those who will not attempt to learn the language. The KJV is the only translation I use and that will be the case until the day I die.

33 posted on 12/15/2011 8:19:50 PM PST by Colonel_Flagg (Why, yes. I AM in a bad mood.)
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To: Colonel_Flagg

I am one of those. Just can’t hold my concentration when trying to read it, though it is beautiful in it’s own way.

I have to be able to UNDERSTAND what I’m reading for my soul to be fed.

But I do understand your passion for it, Sir.


34 posted on 12/15/2011 8:28:08 PM PST by LUV W (This tagline reserved for a hero.......)
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