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Why Obama Gave Iran A Top Secret US Drone
Con Underground ^ | 12 December 2011 | Unknown

Posted on 12/12/2011 3:25:34 PM PST by Windflier

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To: verity
You deliberately neglected my tagline.

Oh, that? Means nothing, if you're going to go to bat for the regime.

So answer the question. Are you defending Obama, or not? If not, how so? (considering your first post)

41 posted on 12/12/2011 9:22:15 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

I have said before, and I say again, Obama is an EVIL PONS. He is an Islamofacist. The worst kind. He has to be stopped. He is out to destroy America...pure and simple. HE IS EVIL. He is what we were warned by our Founding Fathers to prevent. The way is spelled out in the Declaration of Independence.


42 posted on 12/12/2011 9:44:14 PM PST by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a tea party descendant - steeped in the Constitutional legacy handed down by the Founders)
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To: jonrick46

“Heads should roll over this one.”

Start with the Bummers....


43 posted on 12/12/2011 9:47:29 PM PST by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a tea party descendant - steeped in the Constitutional legacy handed down by the Founders)
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To: G Larry

“We have one in D.C. we wouldn’t miss.....”

From what we are hearing, Moochell probably wouldn’t either. :)


44 posted on 12/12/2011 9:52:17 PM PST by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a tea party descendant - steeped in the Constitutional legacy handed down by the Founders)
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To: GGpaX4DumpedTea
He is what we were warned by our Founding Fathers to prevent. The way is spelled out in the Declaration of Independence.

Yes they did spell out the way, and they followed it with great courage. Their courage spawned the greatest nation ever known to mankind, which became the bastion of freedom for a whole world dying for liberty.

Our generation may one day look back on the wisdom of the Framers, and realize that our own war for independence needn't have been fought, if we'd only listened to them.

45 posted on 12/12/2011 10:04:47 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: sit-rep

“...another large group think they are the smartest guys in the room...”

I know I am... :)


46 posted on 12/12/2011 10:06:59 PM PST by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a tea party descendant - steeped in the Constitutional legacy handed down by the Founders)
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To: Windflier

Here’s an interesting twist, were this the plot to a movie:

What if the Israelis hacked the UAV and landed it in Iran on purpose? What if we are leaking like a sieve to the Iranians and the Israelis were interested in cutting off the leakers sources of information.

What good is aerial surveillance to a regime in the US completely uninterested in a military option in Iran when it poses an existential threat to Israel?

The Israelis handing the drone to the Iranians is a clear message to DC - ‘you are checker players in a roomful of chess players’.

I AM NOT AT ALL SAYING THIS IS WHAT HAPPENED. I can say that seeing a picture of the thing on Iranian soil with not a single scratch on it made me wonder why we didn’t put a self-destruct mechanism on it.

Lord knows we risked a lot of SEAL team members necks destroying a stealth helicopter in Pakistan a few months ago. You’d think losing tether, jamming, or any other hacking or spoofing of the bird would result in some sort of reversable auto-destruct sequence which would lock in at some point to irreversable.

Someone knows how to steal our drones. Big leak somewhere.


47 posted on 12/12/2011 10:11:06 PM PST by RinaseaofDs (Does beheading qualify as 'breaking my back', in the Jeffersonian sense of the expression?)
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To: Windflier

Yes...you are so correct. The interesting thing is that we are better able to do now what they did then...we outnumber those who have to go. Do we have the balls?


48 posted on 12/12/2011 10:18:54 PM PST by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a tea party descendant - steeped in the Constitutional legacy handed down by the Founders)
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To: RinaseaofDs

I like your style. You really ought to write international intrigue novels. You’ve got a bent for it, and would probably do well.

I can’t pronounce your handle for the life of me, though.


49 posted on 12/12/2011 10:30:57 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: RinaseaofDs

Are in a sea of Ds?


50 posted on 12/12/2011 10:31:47 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: GGpaX4DumpedTea
The interesting thing is that we are better able to do now what they did then...we outnumber those who have to go. Do we have the balls?

I'm certain that we do. We just haven't been pushed to the final breaking point yet, as crazy as that sounds.

That breaking point does exist, though, and it appears that the regime is determined to push us there. Seems awfully suicidal, if you ask me.

51 posted on 12/12/2011 10:35:40 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

Sorry. It describes my predicament: An R in a sea of D’s.

I live in Western Washington State, the People’s Republic Thereof.

Thanks for the compliment. I actually think I’m not far from the truth as its stated. I also think the Saudis and the Israelis are working as closely as they can at as low a profile as they can, since Persia represents an existential threat to them as well.

The Russians have been angling to invade Saudi Arabia since the Six Day War. We received intelligence that the Russians were going to provide tactical battlefield nukes to the Egyptians, almost by accident. It was a, “Oh, and I picked up something about the Russians planning to ship nuclear howitzer rounds to the Egyptians . . “ sort of thing.

With Russia, Iran, and Saudi Arabia as a bloc, they could control Europe completely economically, leaving the Chinese to deal with us.


52 posted on 12/12/2011 10:36:40 PM PST by RinaseaofDs (Does beheading qualify as 'breaking my back', in the Jeffersonian sense of the expression?)
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To: RinaseaofDs
It describes my predicament: An R in a sea of D’s.

Come to Texas, friend. You'll have lots of company here. I left California, where I was also surrounded, behind enemy lines. Best move I ever made (and Cali is my birthplace).

As far as your take on the Middle East and Russian geo political games in that area - start writing. I think you'll do well with blogging editorials about it, and with novels. You've definitely got the right stuff for it.

53 posted on 12/12/2011 10:42:36 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

One of my lifelong friends lives near Frisco, TX. His tank was the first tank to enter Iraq in the liberation of Kuwait. His platoon killed 29 tanks, and an idiot in one of the tanks in his platoon nearly shot the turret off the command tank.

He literally got out and beat the crap out of the gunner on that tank, but never wrote him up. That’s the way he is.

I too am a Northern Californian. I’m from Martinez, if you know where that is. Refinery town nearby Danville. The reprehensible George Brown is the representative for that district, and has been since the 80’s.


54 posted on 12/12/2011 11:01:44 PM PST by RinaseaofDs (Does beheading qualify as 'breaking my back', in the Jeffersonian sense of the expression?)
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To: RinaseaofDs
I too am a Northern Californian. I’m from Martinez, if you know where that is.

Sorta, kind of. I'm originally from Monterey. Fort Ord, to be precise, but good old Bubba Clinton closed it down and sold it off to some left-wing university for a song.

Hundreds of houses built to military specs (with taxpayer dollars) now lie fallow there, with trees growing through the roofs. That's my birthplace.

55 posted on 12/12/2011 11:10:21 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

Video are showing the Drone sitting in some Iranian hanger in perfect condition.

Maybe there was no self-destruct function or it was disabled before our remote control operators knew the drone had been taken. This could have been done by sending the video information from the drone of the last 30 minutes of flight back to the remote control center. As that video information is being sent back, they land the drone and disable the self-destruct mechanism by disconnecting the onboard battery supply. This disables the drone from any incoming commands to self-destruct. Meanwhile, the remote control operator at the remote control center is watching video of the drone in flight and not remembering that it was the same 30 minutes of video watched before. That would happen because the drone is fairly high up and surface information is quite mundane and not important. It’s only when they get to the target where they want to get close up ground information that the operators start paying attention. Otherwise, the in-transit-to-target video information is there just to make sure the drone is stable and in the air.

That is just my own conjecture on how they landed the drone without being self-destructed. I am no CIA expert.


56 posted on 12/12/2011 11:46:36 PM PST by jonrick46 (2012 can't come soon enough.)
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To: Windflier
But if all of this is so, why did he kill Osama Bin Laden?
57 posted on 12/13/2011 12:15:27 AM PST by 0dysseus
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To: 0dysseus
But if all of this is so, why did he kill Osama Bin Laden?

Don't tell me you actually bought that Hollywood production?

Obama bin Lyin.

58 posted on 12/13/2011 12:52:29 AM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: txhurl
Are we to believe that we made a top secret weapon without a self destruct mechanism?
Why, yes, you ARE to believe that.

barry is doing everything he can to destroy the United States during this term. He has a gut feeling that he won't get a second term, so this is just part of the continuing destruction.

59 posted on 12/13/2011 4:40:46 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (Dear God, thanks for the rain, but please let it rain more in Texas. Amen.)
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To: Windflier

LOL. Just checking....


60 posted on 12/13/2011 4:55:24 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (To Obama, bipartisanship is giving the opposition the opportunity to do as they are told. (WGensert))
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