Free Republic
Browse · Search
Bloggers & Personal
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Senator Levin: It was Obama who required Indefinite Detainment Bill INCLUDE U.S. Citizens
sherriequestioningall ^ | December 11, 2011

Posted on 12/13/2011 8:52:56 AM PST by opentalk

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-34 next last
Video (CSPAN) at link.
1 posted on 12/13/2011 8:53:03 AM PST by opentalk
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: opentalk

It’s a post-9/11 world.


2 posted on 12/13/2011 8:54:31 AM PST by Wolfie
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: opentalk

So—How many Republicans support this?


3 posted on 12/13/2011 9:01:24 AM PST by Arm_Bears (Once they've called you a racist, you've got nothing to lose.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: opentalk
video link

From Senator Levin, there was language in the bill to exempt citizens. Obama asked for it to be removed, and they did.

4 posted on 12/13/2011 9:02:14 AM PST by opentalk
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Wolfie

Can Leaky Carl Levin be verified by an independent source?
Oh this sounds like Barry Ol, Divide and Conquer Maxist Socialist Muslim Barry Soetoro Community Organizing again.
But can this be verified?


5 posted on 12/13/2011 9:03:07 AM PST by StonyBurk (ring)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: opentalk

When are the re-education camps going to be built? Attendance will be mandatory for all conservatives, once Obama suspends the elections.


6 posted on 12/13/2011 9:11:21 AM PST by Signalman
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: opentalk

Why in the he** did the house vote for this POS bill? What the he** is wrong with them? Either this bill isn’t as bad as it is being made out to be or the GOP once again sold the voters down the river.


7 posted on 12/13/2011 9:17:47 AM PST by calex59
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: opentalk

Anything come out of the House on this? So far, only the Senate bill is being talked about.


8 posted on 12/13/2011 9:17:55 AM PST by rightwingextremist1776
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: StonyBurk
Linsay Graham has said the same thing, in the congressional record debate

These comments were from Sen. Linsay Graham regarding the Bill

...This bill is a very sound, balanced work product, and I will stand by it, I will fight for it, and I respect those who may disagree. But why did we take out the language Senator Levin wanted me to put in about an American citizen could not be held indefinitely if caught in the homeland? The administration asked us to do that. Why did they ask us to do that? It makes perfect sense. If American citizens have joined the enemy and we captured them at home, we want to make sure we know what they are up to, and we do not want to be required, under our law, to turn them over to a criminal court, where you have to provide them a lawyer at an arbitrary point in time. So the administration was probably right to take this out.(page 45)

9 posted on 12/13/2011 9:21:41 AM PST by opentalk
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: opentalk

“Obama asked for it to be removed, and they did.”

Was there any outrage? Any pushback whatsoever? It doesn’t seem like it.

This is why simply changing the POTUS is not enough - not by a long shot. If we had a Congress who actually cared about American citizens and respected the Constitution, obams’s marxist ways would never see the light of day.


10 posted on 12/13/2011 9:25:19 AM PST by MichaelCorleone (Stop feeding the beast; if they don't say "Merry Christmas", don't buy.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: Signalman

Will my cell have a window? Will I have to share it with someone else?


11 posted on 12/13/2011 9:29:57 AM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: MichaelCorleone

I’d be just fine with Obama playing president if we had a house and senate willing to crush every unconstitutional thing he does.

Unfortunately every president seems to adopt further dictatorial powers of the president before him.

Give me a president like George Washington who did as little as possible.


12 posted on 12/13/2011 9:32:26 AM PST by cripplecreek (Stand with courage or shut up and do as you're told.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: rightwingextremist1776
The House passed its version in May. I don't know if their version had language to protect citizens. The MSM is not covering this (imo). The Senate bill must now be reconciled with the House-passed version (H.R.1540).

Senate version passed 93 o 7 at the end of November.

13 posted on 12/13/2011 9:35:07 AM PST by opentalk
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: opentalk
Obama asked for it to be removed, and they did.

Who is 'they'?

14 posted on 12/13/2011 9:36:52 AM PST by Hoodat (Because they do not change, Therefore they do not fear God. -Psalm 55:19-)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: opentalk

If Obama signs this, does it mean we can hold him indefinitely and without the benefit of counsel, for aiding terrorists abroad?


15 posted on 12/13/2011 9:39:41 AM PST by liberalh8ter
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: opentalk
From related article

Does the Indefinite Detention Bill Foretell Future?

...It would be one thing if the military was clamoring for the authority to become the nation’s jailer. But to the contrary: Defense Secretary Leon Panetta opposes the maneuver. So does CIA Director David Petraeus, who usually commands deference from senators in both parties.

Pretty much every security official has lined up against the Senate detention provisions, from Director of National Intelligence James Clapper to FBI Director Robert Mueller, who worry that they’ll get in the way of FBI investigations of domestic terrorists.

16 posted on 12/13/2011 9:42:29 AM PST by opentalk
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: opentalk
Per Lindsay Graham:
If American citizens have joined the enemy and we captured them at home, we want to make sure we know what they are up to, and we do not want to be required, under our law, to turn them over to a criminal court... So the administration was probably right to take this out.

Lindsay, do you realize:

1. A marxist dictator may have a different definiton of "enemy" than you?

2. If that dictator has already "captured them at home" he doesn't have to "make sure (he) know(s) what they are up to".

3. Being "probably right" does not warrant violating the U.S. Constitution.

17 posted on 12/13/2011 9:47:32 AM PST by frog in a pot (I am not a birther...I am an NBCer)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: Signalman

I agree with your prognostication.


18 posted on 12/13/2011 9:48:52 AM PST by Old Sarge (RIP FReeper Skyraider (1930-2011) - You Are Missed)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: opentalk

Thanks for the update....I wondered how this could make it past the house and now I know...figures Zero and the commies are behind this effort.


19 posted on 12/13/2011 9:54:30 AM PST by rightwingextremist1776
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: Hoodat
Its McCain's and Levin bill. McCain has pushed back from changing language. Graham is backing current bill.

Rand Paul has been sounding alarms, trying to get language that protects citizens.

20 posted on 12/13/2011 9:55:27 AM PST by opentalk
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-34 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
Bloggers & Personal
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson