Skip to comments.Why Would the IRS Hold a Secret Meeting?
Posted on 12/13/2011 12:31:36 PM PST by 92nina
On Thursday, December 8th, the IRS held a secret meeting regarding a new tax policy. The hearing was required by law, as the IRS was proposing new legislation, but the IRS did everything in its power to keep it from the public. It only announced the meeting on the 7th, one day earlier, and only allowed people who signed up in advance to attend. Even then, they were not allowed to speak.
The hearing was on the issue of return free or simple return filing, a proposal under which the IRS would file taxes for the taxpayer and send them either or a return or a bill. The Obama Administration has argued that this method would simplify things for taxpayers and increase efficiency. That still leaves the question, however, of why the IRS would need to hold a secret meeting on an issue that purportedly benefits tax payers.
The reason for the secrecy is that a return free system creates a significant conflict of interest for the IRS. As the current mission of the IRS is to increase tax revenues, giving it the ability to determine how much people owe leaves them with the incentive to come out in their own favor. The administration has argued that $300 billion in tax revenue has been missing, and so it believes that it has found a way to collect it. In other words, return free filing is simply a backdoor method of raising peoples taxes, and a secret meeting is just the use of bare-knuckle tactics to get it passed. Fortunately, voters are aware of these tactics and are not having any of it. In a Public Policy Polling (PPP) poll, 71% of voters stated that they do not trust the IRS to prepare their taxes for them...
Read more: http://www.atr.org/irs-hold-secret-meeting-a6640#ixzz1gRpjcj9k
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Next thing you know they start having star chamber court dates for those evil non-filers!
This will be done to "reduce paperwork" and "increase responsiveness."
Don’t I know it.
It’s the old ‘pay us first what we say you owe, then you can file a complaint or amended return’ trick.
Instead of fighting to keep what you have, now you have to fight to get back what’s been taken from you.
Basically a move from bad to worse.
Does anybody really know the real political power of the IRS, does it shift back and forth between parties and presidencies or is it fixed in a linear collecting fashion way?
The IRS “plan” would work with only the SIMPLEST returns. Nobody with multiple K-1’s or substantial self-employment income and expenses could do it.
With direct deposit of paychecks, they have access to your checking account, too. They could then raise taxes retroactively.
So much for secrecy. lol
Is paying income tax voluntary???
January 30, 2005 Contact: Bob Schulz For Immediate Release (518) 656-3578
U.S. Court of Appeals Rules IRS Cannot Apply Force Against a Tax Payer
Without A Court Order Taxpayers Free To Ignore
An IRS Summons Queensbury, NY On January 25, 2005, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit held that taxpayers cannot be compelled by the IRS to turn over personal and private property to the IRS, absent a federal court order.
Quoting from the decision (Schulz v. IRS, case number 04-0196-cv), ...absent an effort to seek enforcement through a federal court, IRS summonses apply no force to taxpayers, and no consequence whatever can befall a taxpayer who refuses, ignores, or otherwise does not comply with an IRS summons until that summons is backed by a federal court order [a taxpayer] cannot be held in contempt, arrested, detained, or otherwise punished for refusing to comply with the original IRS summons, no matter the taxpayer’s reasons, or lack of reasons for so refusing.
LEARN YOUR RIGHTS!!!!!
Income taxes are voluntary according to this Reid interview:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7mRSI8yWwg Dario Busch:
Whitey Harrell case:
The secret of OZ: http:
The state of Illinois vs Whitey Harrell http://www.aardvarkbusiness.net/chat/viewtopic.php?t=12502
PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF ILLINOIS vs. GAYLON L. HARRELL,
In deliberation, the jury asked the judge for a copy of the law Harrell was being tried for breaking, but the judge would not supply it. When they found that certain evidence admitted into the record during the trial by the defense was missing, they requested it of the judge and were again denied. They acquitted Harrell on all counts. Even though the parties were in state court and the official charge was failure to file state income tax returns, the case was really about the legal requirement to file a federal income tax return because, like most states, Illinois law mandates the filing of a state income tax return if the Illinois resident is required to file a federal income tax return. Harrells case is cited as PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF ILLINOIS vs. GAYLON L. HARRELL, Case Number 97CF89 in the Circuit Court of the Twentieth Judicial Circuit, St. Clair County, Illinois.
supreme court cases against the 16th amendment
Think You Know the IRS?
Learn the Truth! Know Your Rights! http://www.supremelaw.org/sls/31answers.htm
“If you...examined [The 16th Amendment] carefully, you would find that a sufficient number of states never ratified that amendment.”
U.S. District Court Judge James C. Fox 2003. http://www.libertyforlife.com/constitution/failure_to_ratify_the_16th-details.html
161 Federal Tax Charges, 0 Convictions
Sept 30, 2007 IRS Suffers Staggering Defeat Tax Questions Raised Regarding Gold and Silver Coins Used to Pay Wages http://www.wethepeoplefoundation.org/UPDATE/Update2007-09-30.htm
THE UCC CONNECTION / Howard freeman
UCC 1-207/308: http://www.coppermoonshinestills.com/id53.html
Rep. James Traficant, Jr. (Ohio) addressing the House. http://dailybail.com/live-beat/us-default-flashback-rep-james-traficant-discusses-the-feder.html
The Missing 13th amendment:
“If any citizen of the United States shall accept, claim, receive, or retain any title of nobility or honour, or shall without the consent of Congress, accept and retain any present, pension, office, or emolument of any kind whatever, from any Emperor, King, Prince, or foreign Power, such person shall cease to be a citizen of the United States, and shall be incapable of holding any office of trust or profit under them, or either of them.” http://www.libertyforlife.com/law/13th/missing_13th_images.htm
Communist Goals (1963) http://www.uhuh.com/nwo/communism/comgoals.htm#Documention
Plan to destroy
Supreme Law Library The Federal Zone: Cracking the Code of Internal Revenue http://www.supremelaw.org/fedzone11/index.htm
They will get access to your bank account through Obamacare and then use the income stream into the account to determine your taxes.
But, not all income streams are subject to the same tax rates! And then there are the loopholes!
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