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Posted on 12/15/2011 4:30:58 PM PST by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears
President Barack Obama faced a civil liberties backlash today after he signed a law that will allow terror suspects to be held indefinitely- even raising the prospects of U.S. citizens being sent to Guantanamo Bay. The controversial move, revealed last night, effectively extends the laws of the battlefield to American soil.
The move shows a clear hardening of Mr Obamas anti-terror policies, and a major shift from the liberal stance that helped him sweep into power three years ago.
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I’ve always wanted a tropical vacation.
Will Obama send US citizens to Guantanamo Bay ? He’s making a list and checking it twice
You only got worries if you’re anti communist, anti Islamicist, or pro American.
This was all sort of inevitable. They are running an unconventional civil war. http://www.futurnamics.com/civilwar.php
FDR: Japanese-Americans off to internment camps
Obama: Americans off to Gitmo
All Freepers can at least take consolation in the knowledge that the Pauls will be the first to go.
Obama is so deceitful and powerful that he was able to convince 42 Republican Senators to vote to give Obama the power to send innocent patriotic Americans to Gitmo.
It’s so like the Dem’s hero FDR who sent to interment camps Americans of Japanese decent with the approval of the Supreme Court. Then too there were Italians and Germans also lest we forget.
At least this might make it easier to send the Kenyan and his corrupt cast of communist cronies there in 2013.
It’s official. Barry’s Amerika is now a police state.
“Voting “Republican” in 2012 will be deemed to be a terrorist act to Obama.”
It was sure nice of the Republicans in the House and Senate to give Obama the power to send citizens to Gitmo simply for voting Republican.
Why are they on Obama’s back. This was passed by REPUBLICANS.
At least we will die semi-Free, however the hanger-on-ers will go grasping the back of their knees with both hands
“Ive always wanted a tropical vacation.”
He’s planning a FR wing.
Has anybody here actually read the legislation?
I personally do not even blame Obama as much as I blame Congress. Their specific job is to read the bills and vote based on what they have read, NOT based on what the president has said. These Republicans scare me more than the Democrats because at least Democrats tell you that they are Socialists.
I haven’t found it yet - but the first search brought up the point that December 15 is also the anniversary of the Bill of Rights! And I DON”T think that is a coincidence.
Yes. I originally was not as worried and thought it was Conspiracy hype until I read about them stabbing the American people in the back and removing the clause that exempts American Citizens.
Senate Amendment (SA) 1126 would “clarify” Section 1031 to explicitly state within the section that the authority of the military to detain persons without trial until the end of hostilities does not apply to American citizens. [Update: Voted down 45-55]
SA 1125 would limit the mandatory detention provision in Section 1032 to persons captured abroad, not in America. [Update: Voted down, 45-55]
If you are Irish, you have no worries. O’Bama considers himself as Irish and he will not send his countrymen to the Guantanamo Gulag. /sarc
Yeah, I'm sure all the liberal suck-ups in the MSM are sooooooo concerned. Well, they were concerned someone might know what library books they read years ago - but this? Nah. They know the real enemy - those conservative middle class fellow citizens...
This is a “Bill of Attainder”, prohibited by the Constitution.
For those who don’t know, LOOK IT UP!!!
The legislature is trying to bypass the courts. I suspect the Supremes ain’t gonna be very thrilled about that one!!
Somebody gonna get B-slapped big time!
“Hes planning a FR wing.”
While you are there, you can send 42 Repiblican senators postcards thanking them for granting Obama the power to detain you.
Here is a (the?) section that talks about it. Not sure what “exceptions” can be made - but U.S. citizens or Legal Resident Aliens can NOT be detained under the new rules.
Sec. 1032. REQUIREMENT FOR MILITARY CUSTODY.
(a) Custody Pending Disposition Under Law of War-
(1) IN GENERAL- Except as provided in paragraph (4), the Armed Forces of the United States shall hold a person described in paragraph (2) who is captured in the course of hostilities authorized by the Authorization for Use of Military Force (Public Law 107-40) in military custody pending disposition under the law of war.
(2) COVERED PERSONS- The requirement in paragraph (1) shall apply to any person whose detention is authorized under section 1031 who is determined—
(A) to be a member of, or part of, al-Qaeda or an associated force that acts in coordination with or pursuant to the direction of al-Qaeda; and
(B) to have participated in the course of planning or carrying out an attack or attempted attack against the United States or its coalition partners.
(3) DISPOSITION UNDER LAW OF WAR- For purposes of this subsection, the disposition of a person under the law of war has the meaning given in section 1031(c), except that no transfer otherwise described in paragraph (4) of that section shall be made unless consistent with the requirements of section 1033.
(4) WAIVER FOR NATIONAL SECURITY- The Secretary of Defense may, in consultation with the Secretary of State and the Director of National Intelligence, waive the requirement of paragraph (1) if the Secretary submits to Congress a certification in writing that such a waiver is in the national security interests of the United States.
(b) Applicability to United States Citizens and Lawful Resident Aliens-
(1) UNITED STATES CITIZENS- The requirement to detain a person in military custody under this section does not extend to citizens of the United States.
(2) LAWFUL RESIDENT ALIENS- The requirement to detain a person in military custody under this section does not extend to a lawful resident alien of the United States on the basis of conduct taking place within the United States, except to the extent permitted by the Constitution of the United States.
October 2012. That’s the date we have to watch out for. A national “crisis” will compel the mass arrests of conservatives to be sent to newly-constructed camps across the nation.
Gitmo becomes Gulag?
You’ll be able to recognize me... I’ll be the one screaming like a little girl.
“The move shows a clear hardening of Mr Obamas anti-terror policies, and a major shift from the liberal stance that helped him sweep into power three years ago.”
Aided and abetted by the republican legislators in both houses.
Blame Obama if you want, but McCain and Graham supported this thing.
“Aided and abetted by the republican legislators in both houses.”
For some reason, they don’t want to acknowledge that side of the legislation.
..anti-American nutjob who terrorizes populations...
...maybe Zer0 will commit himself to Gitmo....
How is it possible that this is not in the Breaking News or Front Page News sidebars?
Let alone having it's own Subject Link at the top of the page?
The American Constitution was just eliminated by congressional vote. I would think that a website called Free Republic would find that somewhat important.
I don't know what's scarier - the vote, or the universal silence about it.
The Founders knew that throughout history, where ever it was tried, democracies always devolved into authoritarian or totalitarian, tyrannical governments.
And that's right where we're heading.
By the time this plays out, the US will have become a police state where you no longer have liberty.
Without security of your person, your property and your privacy, you have no liberty. It simply an
illusion of freedom - granted only if the state likes you.
In the not too distant future, you will wish you had arranged for another passport of
another country, shipped your wealth offshore and set up a bolt-hole far from here...
that is, if you haven’t already done so.
Time is running out.
When Democracy become Tyranny, I still get to vote. Maybe only once, but there will be a reckoning.
Homeland inSecurity named third party voters domestic terrorists, among many others.
McCain did this.
If Obammy arrests all the people he’s named domestic terrorists (his political and social enemies), he’ll need a real big prison camp. I hope McCain is the first one sent. We should report him to DOD for terrorizing the country.
Right. The majority of the Supremes could give a crap about the constitution. It’s depends on whether Kennedy has a gassy stomach or not when he hears the case. They have let this happen to our country.
Time has run out. It’s done.
Thanks for the info.
If you read the last sections closely they say the president is not required to hold American citizens indefinitely. Which means he can hold throw them in the gulag forever, as long as he is not required to do so.
As, the government can ask for a waiver to begin pulling folks out of line despite the fact they are not working for al queda.
Is it? Tanks in the streeets? Police running amok to and fro barging into your domicile? Detaining and shooting people in the streets.
Oh, I forgot: yep, its “Barry’s Armerika” as you put it.
You know WHAT? You haven’t a clue to what an “oppressive reigme” actually means.
I blame ALL the perps.
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