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Austin, Texas is Doing Something Really Spectacular
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Posted on 12/19/2011 5:13:23 PM PST by matt04

Dear ,

The mayor and city council of Austin, Texas have pledged to make the city coal-free. This is an incredible step toward sustainability in a very coal-heavy state.

Please send a note to Austin's mayor, telling him you support his no coal pledge.

Mayor Leffingwell recently pledged to phase out Austin's dirty Fayette coal plant and begin moving the city toward a clean energy future. Shortly thereafter, the entire city council joined the pledge, setting a huge precedent for cities all over the country.

In the coming months, we'll need to convince Austin Energy to support Mayor Leffingwell's pledge. It is really important that we all speak out in support of his pledge, no matter what state we live in.

Take a moment to send a note to Mayor Leffingwell, letting him know that you stand with him.

Thank you for taking action!

Emily L. Care2 Campaign Team


TOPICS: Government; Society
KEYWORDS: austin; care2; leffingwell; tx
From the SPAMmers at care2. And what does the mayor of the People's Republic of Austin plan replacing the coal generated power with, can't be nuclear or natural gas. Wind? Solar? Magic?
1 posted on 12/19/2011 5:13:28 PM PST by matt04
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To: matt04

Does the Austin city tapwater still smell like a fishtank each summer? Is there still a brownout every night between about 2:30 AM and 4:45 AM?


2 posted on 12/19/2011 5:16:11 PM PST by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans: Don't read their lips - watch their hands.)
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To: matt04

No, he plans to just turn the power OFF!
What a brilliant idea?
Austin is full of idiots!


3 posted on 12/19/2011 5:16:11 PM PST by 9422WMR
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To: matt04
I don't have any problem with Austin shutting down. Our liberties will be safer.

/johnny

4 posted on 12/19/2011 5:21:41 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (gone Galt)
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To: matt04

Mayor Leffingwell? I’ve been to Austin before. Are you sure it’s not Leftwinghell? Sometimes the jokes just write themselves.


5 posted on 12/19/2011 5:22:46 PM PST by mplsconservative (Impeach Obama Now!)
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To: matt04

Complete douchebag....


6 posted on 12/19/2011 5:23:01 PM PST by freebilly
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To: matt04

Austin is the San Francisco of Texas. Everybody should quit driving cars and riding busses and take their bikes everywhere. Unplug the TV, Laptop, Cell Phones and go without air conditioning in the middle of a 99 degree summer with 90 percent humidity. Then these Liberal turds would know to respect Fossil Fuels-based energy. What a stupid Mayor.


7 posted on 12/19/2011 5:23:51 PM PST by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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To: matt04

Magic, probably. He’s one of the worst mayors we’ve had in recent years, and is about to ban not only plastic grocery bags, but paper ones, too. A veritable jackass all around.


8 posted on 12/19/2011 5:25:55 PM PST by cweese (Hook 'em Horns!!!)
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To: broken_arrow1

I think we should support the mayor’s initiative. More resources for the rest of us and let them wallow in their stupidity.


9 posted on 12/19/2011 5:26:36 PM PST by morphing libertarian
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To: matt04

The problem is that we taxpayers from across Texas are subsidizing “clean power” for them


10 posted on 12/19/2011 5:29:57 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: matt04

Every gorgeous face has a blemish...Texas has Austin.


11 posted on 12/19/2011 5:32:29 PM PST by IrishPennant (We don't want to work so we go to work to make enough money not to work...Huh?)
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To: matt04

How many Texans will this place out of work?

and what kind of jobs does this piece of slime intend to provide.


12 posted on 12/19/2011 5:36:26 PM PST by Venturer
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To: cweese

Austin Energy is about to raise the rates for electricity too, probably in part because of phasing out coal plants and replacing them with unreliable wind turbines. I see more rolling brownouts ahead like Austin had last winter.

On top of that, they propose to charge people with big houses more per kilowatt than those with small houses.


13 posted on 12/19/2011 5:38:35 PM PST by rustbucket
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To: mplsconservative

I think it’s Mayor Like-effing-hell.

Like-effing-hell he’s going to power the city without coal.


14 posted on 12/19/2011 5:39:32 PM PST by Fightin Whitey
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To: Venturer

Jobs in the standby generator installation and maintenance field, until they outlaw those also.


15 posted on 12/19/2011 5:44:41 PM PST by matt04
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To: matt04

So how will they be able to charge up all their Priuses?


16 posted on 12/19/2011 5:49:31 PM PST by newheart (Newt's a loose cannon, but at least he knows who the real target is.)
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To: matt04
And what does the mayor of the People's Republic of Austin plan replacing the coal generated power with, can't be nuclear or natural gas.

Less than 25% of Austin Energy's output is from coal. The majority is natural gas and nuclear, and that's not going to change anytime soon. This was just an announcement to pretend to be doing something.
17 posted on 12/19/2011 5:49:38 PM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: Fightin Whitey

That works too. :) I think I’ll search for a pic of the guy. I bet he’s the twin to R.T. Rybak, mayor wonder boy of Minneapolis.


18 posted on 12/19/2011 5:50:50 PM PST by mplsconservative (Impeach Obama Now!)
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To: matt04

19 posted on 12/19/2011 5:51:56 PM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: Psalm 144
Does the Austin city tapwater still smell like a fishtank each summer? Is there still a brownout every night between about 2:30 AM and 4:45 AM?

Occasionally the water smells like fresh-cut grass.

The only brownouts are either state-wide "rolling" brownouts controlled by ERCOT, or weather-related. Seems we have a lot of folks that bitch and moan about the city/energy crews trimming trees back from the power lines, with the result that a good windstorm or icestorm will knock out power. Apparently keeping tree branches trimmed somehow devalues your property or hurts the environment or something.
20 posted on 12/19/2011 5:53:33 PM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: IrishPennant
Every gorgeous face has a blemish...Texas has Austin.

Now don't leave out Houston, who gave us Bill White and who elected a lesbian as mayor, and Dallas who elected a lesbian as sheriff. All kinds of "progress" in Texas these days....
21 posted on 12/19/2011 5:55:26 PM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: matt04

The only good thing about Austin is that the complete collection of dull knives are in one location.


22 posted on 12/19/2011 5:58:05 PM PST by RetiredTexasVet (There's a pill for just about everything ... except stupid!)
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To: matt04

This will be an economic boom for cities throughout Central Texas - when businesses flee Austin in search of electricity.


23 posted on 12/19/2011 5:59:27 PM PST by kennedy (No relation to those other Kennedys.)
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To: matt04

Austin Energy Proposes 12.5% Rate Increase
April 2012 Target Date for Implementation

After more than a year of review and extensive public feedback, Austin Energy (AE) today outlined its proposal for a 12.5% rate increase – its first increase in base electric rates in 17 years. The redesign of rates is needed to provide sufficient revenues, to achieve greater rate equity between customer classes and to better support strategic goals for energy efficiency and on-site energy resources such as rooftop solar.

http://www.austinenergy.com/About%20Us/Newsroom/Press%20Releases/2011/proposedRateIncrease.html


24 posted on 12/19/2011 6:01:46 PM PST by deport
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To: Fightin Whitey

No, I think the name is Mayor LeftWing.


25 posted on 12/19/2011 6:03:09 PM PST by Mark (Don't argue with my posts. I typed while under sniper fire..)
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To: mplsconservative

Used to live over in the Red River Valley and knew Twin City politics much better than I do now.

‘Course back then, before Coleman folded up camp and limped home without a fight, it wasn’t the constant nauseating assault on the sensibilities it is now: Frankin, Ellison, Klobuchar and, as you say, Ryback. Oh my god and Mark Dayton again now too.

I have a boyhood pal who is a doctor there and is the type to blind himself to all evidence and declaim about how “stupid” Michele Bachmann is while defending Obama & Ellison and them as “trying to do the right thing.”

When I lived nearby I did spend a lot of pleasant hours listening to Sooch and his good sense observations. My favorite was firing up every gasoline-powered cylinder he owned (from generator and lawn mower to the cars, snowmobile and Harley etc. etc.) at the appointed hour on Earth Day. All the flashers going, honking the horn, the works.

That and also the days when he would go through the gubmint pages of the phone book and call up the many bizarre Minnesota state agency listings and ask them what the hell they did on the taxpayer dime—ha!

Sorry to go on so long. Hang in, fight on!


26 posted on 12/19/2011 6:04:39 PM PST by Fightin Whitey
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To: matt04; Squantos; mylife; spankalib; Tony Snow; COB1; Brucifer; sockmonkey; ...

Merry Christmas From The Meinzers
http://vimeo.com/33741181


27 posted on 12/19/2011 6:06:56 PM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: rustbucket

True enough. The City of Austin LOVES to dictate to everyone else how to live their lives. The laws and mandates they institute are often designed to ripoff the taxpayers to fund nonsense and more nonsense.


28 posted on 12/19/2011 6:20:17 PM PST by cweese (Hook 'em Horns!!!)
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To: Liberty Valance

And that is exactly what the Panhandle is gonna look like come sunrise tomorrow. Getting a wee bit of snow this PM.......;o)

Good little whiteout going on now. Should be some monster drifts in the morning. All fun.

Nite Ya’ll !


29 posted on 12/19/2011 6:23:21 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: Squantos

Stay warm Squantos!


30 posted on 12/19/2011 6:35:31 PM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: matt04

Fine with me, I’m all for people making more of their own decisions locally rather than being told what to do by the EPA or other Fed agency.

I’d be interested in seeing what energy source they are going to transition to.


31 posted on 12/19/2011 6:36:07 PM PST by Lorianne
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To: Fightin Whitey
Oh, no apology needed! Loved your post, especially the part about Joe Soucheray.

I have many fond memories of listening to Sooch with my dad. He used to call Joe to tell him his stories about the first Sturgis bike rallies. What a hoot. I'd think he'd gone in the house to use the facilities, then I'd hear him talking to Joe on the radio we had on outside on the patio. He'd call him on our bedroom phone unbeknown to us.

Lost my dad last December to brain cancer. It's fun to remember his calls. Yes. We have our fair share of idiots in this state. I'm a native South Dakotan, but I've lived here longer than I lived there. When it comes to politics in Minnesota, I just mainly shake my head.

32 posted on 12/19/2011 6:49:21 PM PST by mplsconservative (Impeach Obama Now!)
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To: mplsconservative

Sorry about your Dad. He sounds like a great one!


33 posted on 12/19/2011 6:56:16 PM PST by Dogbert41 (Romney/Brown 2012. Yeah, I know. Can we get real now?)
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To: Squantos

*Merry Christmas*

34 posted on 12/19/2011 7:05:06 PM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: af_vet_rr
Now don't leave out Houston

Yeah...breaks my heart...

35 posted on 12/19/2011 7:06:01 PM PST by IrishPennant (We don't want to work so we go to work to make enough money not to work...Huh?)
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To: Dogbert41

Thanks Dogbert41. It’s been a little tough lately. He was truly a great guy. Would’ve made a great FReeper but mom wouldn’t have a computer in the house. Long story...


36 posted on 12/19/2011 7:21:23 PM PST by mplsconservative (Impeach Obama Now!)
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To: Squantos

~ Stay Safe Squantos ~

37 posted on 12/19/2011 7:27:38 PM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: af_vet_rr

Thanks for that, somehow the facts always get in the way of an agenda.


38 posted on 12/19/2011 7:31:05 PM PST by Razzz42
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To: Razzz42
Thanks for that, somehow the facts always get in the way of an agenda.

It would not surprise me one bit if there was a solid business/technical reason for Austin Energy to end the co-ownership of their single coal burning plant and the politicians decided to spin it as getting out of coal for environmental reasons instead. They are some slick politicians. It's located near La Grange and if I recall, is around 35 years old or so, and co-owned with LCRA. LCRA has been selling off some of its properties.

They have 3-4 natural gas power plants within the proper Austin area they own, plus the coal power plant they co-own that they are trying to get out of, plus they are a 16% partner in the South Texas nuclear plant near Bay City.

A few years ago, they said they would be short 500-600MW by the time we reach 2020. There is no way they can shut down that coal plant and not only make up that amount but pick up the 600MW or so needed due to population growth without at least one new plant. They'll have to do something, because I'd hazard a guess and say that if they can't keep the air conditioning running in the summers for most folks and businesses, the politicians will quickly find their way into the unemployment line. You can mess with a lot of things in Texas, but air conditioning isn't one of them.

I think they need to add natural gas turbines. That seems to be the best tradeoff - natural gas turbines are more flexible than coal/nuclear, they can be spun up and down quicker based on load, and we've got a good natural gas system already in place.

Nobody is interested in working out how to get a lot more of the electricity out of West Texas' wind turbines and back east where it's needed, at least at a decent price, and nobody is interested in any large scale projects to store excess energy.

Rather than waste all their time on electrical cars and batteries, maybe they need to be figuring out a way to store excess energy, since the Texas' grid has to always be running and generates a lot of excess energy at times.
39 posted on 12/19/2011 8:41:09 PM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: 9422WMR

Austin is the anus of Texas.


40 posted on 12/19/2011 8:46:05 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: af_vet_rr
The Austin Energy Climate Protection Plan [my underline] was/is to go from about 15% renewable energy in 2011 to 35% renewable energy by 2020 [Link]. The bulk of that increase in renewable energy is to come from wind power.

Wind power does not function well in very cold or heavy rain conditions [See: Link]. That is a serious problem, IMO, and could lead to occasional blackouts when we need power most. I would much rather have generating capacity we could rely on under extreme weather conditions.

The Climate Protection Plan appears to consider anthropogenic global warming to be a serious problem and that greenhouse gas emissions consequently must be reduced. You would hope the planners and the politicians would be smarter than that.

41 posted on 12/19/2011 9:41:45 PM PST by rustbucket
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To: matt04
Please send a note to Austin's mayor, telling him you support his no coal pledge.

The only note I will send him is to tell him what a stupid communistic SOB he is.

42 posted on 12/19/2011 10:04:21 PM PST by calex59
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To: rustbucket
The Austin Energy Climate Protection Plan [my underline] was/is to go from about 15% renewable energy in 2011 to 35% renewable energy by 2020 [Link]. The bulk of that increase in renewable energy is to come from wind power.

That's a pipe dream because they still have problems getting a lot of power from West Texas and dealing with off-times.
43 posted on 12/19/2011 10:19:12 PM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: matt04

Just as soon as they get all those nasty little plastic (and paper) bags banned.


44 posted on 12/20/2011 4:16:04 AM PST by wolfcreek (Perry to Obama: Adios, MOFO!)
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To: cweese

The “eco” bags they sell in the grocery stores don’t look like they can be laundered. It seems to me that bacteria’s going to flourish in them from spills, leaks and drips and someone’s going to get sick when they eat something out of one that’s previously carried leaky chicken or something.

Use something that can be washed out or laundered.

These freaks are slowly returning us to the dark ages.


45 posted on 12/20/2011 4:42:45 AM PST by Nickname
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To: matt04

Back in the late ‘80s, Austin made a concerted push to become the Silicon Valley of the South. Since then, a lot of computer-related businesses have moved there. It was a left-leaning place before that, but now it is uber-left.

The California attitude has instilled itself there: Nevermind how much it costs. If it’s aligned with lefty goals, it’s worth it. Don’t worry about debt. That will take care of itself.


46 posted on 12/20/2011 4:59:26 AM PST by Rocky (REPEAL IT!)
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To: matt04

Actually, we are planning to power Austin with rainbows and unicorns. That’s why we have to get rid of both paper and plastic bags at all the stores, because everyone knows that the natural enemies of rainbows and unicorns are environmentally-unsound packaging for your groceries.


47 posted on 12/20/2011 11:46:00 AM PST by tarawa
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