Mass media exposure kills SPAWAR cold fusion research

Mass media exposure kills SPAWAR cold fusion research
Jed Rothwell Sat, 17 Dec 2011 14:46:07 -0800
I am sorry to report that the authorities have finally closed down cold
fusion research at SAPWAR. After Frank Gordon left, the project was on life
support. Recent reports on Fox News and elsewhere mentioned it, bringing
about the inevitable coup de grace.

Like most cold fusion projects, this was a shoestring or "bootlegged"
operation. It was done by retired researchers such as Szpak, and others
working nights and weekends. The equipment was scavenged or bought by
private individuals. But, as we all know, people opposed to cold fusion
will not tolerate any project, even if it costs essentially nothing.
Academic freedom means nothing to them. It never occurs to them they might
be wrong, because -- Like Park and Yugo -- they have read nothing and they
know nothing. They make no distinction between cold fusion and a perpetual
motion machines or water memory. Any research they disagree with *must not
be allowed*, period.

Whenever cold fusion appears in the mass media I shudder, because I know it
will trigger a backlash. Cold fusion researchers keep a low profile for a
good reason. They know perfectly well that when some nitwit such as Krivit
reveals there may be a source of funding, or a project being organized,
that will trigger opposition. Robert Park will pull strings. Others will
organize letter-writing campaigns. Mary Yugo will publish unfounded
accusations of fraud and guilt by association. You can see the dynamic at
work in this article, where someone is trying to shut down NASA interest in
cold fusion:

"Why is NASA Langley Wasting Time on Cold Fusion Research?"

http://nasawatch.com/archives/2011/12/why-is-nasa-lan.html

The people in charge of the Navy and the DoE know nothing about cold
fusion, and they do not care about it. When they get letters from
scientists or members of the public saying "someone in your organization is
committing fraud" they do not ask questions. They close it down, whatever
it is. Their main concern is their public image with the taxpayers. The
last thing they need is to be accused of countenancing academic fraud or
crazy research.

This has been happening for 22 years. Given this environment, it is
surprising that cold fusion survived at all. Dozens of projects such as
this one and the one at MIT were crushed, mostly without ever being allowed
to publish anything, and without any knowledge by the public. I knew about
the MIT project described by Stolper because Gene Mallove was involved, and
he was reporting to me. I was helping to fund things like this. No one else
ever learned about it because it worked. Any time positive results are
achieved, the opposition will pull out the stops to have the researchers
fired or pushed into final retirement. That's how it works. That is why I
and others gave up even trying to establish projects at major institutions
years ago. We know how it will end. That is why I think there no hope of
funding Miley et al., and no point. Sure it would be important work. But it
is not worth getting some poor grad student in trouble, or ruining her
career prospects. The results will be bottled up, the grad student's
reputation torn to shreds by nitwits, and the mass media will report only
lies and distortions. Yeah, I may get another informal positive result I
can upload to LENR-CANR.org, but that is not worth destroying someone's
career. It won't change anything.

Fortunately, Rossi and Defkalion are privately funded and immune to
interference. Rossi is well aware of how academic politics work in the U.S.
That is one of the reasons he has not made much of an effort to work with
universities and national labs. Even if they get positive results, it will
be reported as a failure and fraud. That is what happened to the National
Cold Fusion Institute, and the Japanese NEDO project. When Miles
demonstrated heat at the NEDO over a few weeks, the scientifically
trained bureaucrats in charge, who were in the same building, *refused to
get up, walk down the hall, and look*. Talk about willful ignorance! Mary
Yugo has nothing on them. They were busy writing a report saying that no
positive results were achieved. They published that in Japanese soon after
Miles left and the project was shut down. Perhaps they hoped Miles would
not read it. Miles, being no fool, sent it to me, and I translated it. He
was pretty upset but not surprised. As someone remarked "the fix was in
from the start." It could not be more blatant. Their job was to lie, stick
the knife into the project, and prevent any other research. In his book,
Huizenga bragged that was his assignment, and he was proud of how well he
did it. The 2004 DoE review was also a charade. It was clear beforehand it
would be a joke, or parlor trick, not a serious review. That is why Storms
refused to participate, and why I told the participants beforehand, "beware
of what you wish for."

- Jed

This will be my standard post to moonboy that says you’re not worth trying to have reasonable discussion, also says “buzz off” & doesn’t leave crickets. But if it offends you to the point that you get it removed like my prior innocuous citation then I’ll have to come up with some other ‘ignore button’ post.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/backroom/2800058/posts?page=55#55
To: Moonman62

This means I have nothing more to say to you about LENR. Bye.

55 posted on Sunday, October 30, 2011 4:41:07 PM by Kevmo (Caveat lurkor pro se ipso judicatis: Let the lurker decide for himself)
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/backroom/2800058/posts?page=55#55
To: Moonman62

This means I have nothing more to say to you about LENR. Bye.

55 posted on Sunday, October 30, 2011 4:41:07 PM by Kevmo (Caveat lurkor pro se ipso judicatis: Let the lurker decide for himself)
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To: Moonman62

This means I have nothing more to say to you about LENR. Bye.

55 posted on Sunday, October 30, 2011 4:41:07 PM by Kevmo (Caveat lurkor pro se ipso judicatis: Let the lurker decide for himself)
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Here’s my standard ‘ignore’ post to Lx.

This will be my standard post to you that says you’re not worth trying to have reasonable discussion, also says “buzz off” & doesn’t leave crickets. Maybe you should sign up for a few more years of therapy.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2813439/posts?page=91#91

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2811976/posts?page=165#165

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2811976/posts?page=164#164

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Saturday, November 26, 2011 1:55:59 PM • 164 of 169
Lx to Kevmo
I see...years of therapy on your horizon, better start now.
It’s really helped me be nicer, more sympathetic and understanding.
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My standard response to Kevmo’s continual ducking of debate.

Poor Kevmo, the Rhode Island Red of Freerepublic. Here's his latest photo:

I think I see your problem. You take this literally, "Lx to Kevmo I see...years of therapy on your horizon, better start now. It’s really helped me be nicer, more sympathetic and understanding."

Now, I meant the part about Kevmo needing therapy but if he thinks what I supposedly wrote about myself is serious, it's no wonder he believes in Rossi.

Kevmo, do I sound nicer, more sympathetic and understanding? Did you know I have a cold fusion device?

So Kevmo, when you look in the mirror, or do you avoid them, do you weep when you see the image above looking back at you?

Really Kevmo, you think you get to make all the B.S posts you want but are too cowardly to respond. Keeping up with your present ignore trajectory, you'll be speaking to yourself and only yourself in 2.01 months. And you know your parents told you how it could cause blindness when they caught you.

Exactly why do you continue to avoid debate?

I bet your hero Jed Rothwell doesn't duck debate.

Pons-Fleishmann effect has been replicated more than 14,700 times.

That is great news! Now, let's look at the source for that claim:

Let's see, it appears to come from:
Frontiers of Physics in China

Wait, I found a source from the incredibly shy, Jed Rothwell:
September 22, 2009 2:16 PM
Jed Rothwell said...

You wrote:

"Am I an expert on this? No."

Then I suggest you read original, peer-reviewed sources written by experts.

". . . but F&P have simply not been replicated, despite numerous attempts."

That is incorrect. The effect has been replicated at well over 200 major laboratories (E. Storms, Los Alamos), in roughly 14,700 experimental runs (J. He, Chines Ac. of Sciences). Most replications that I have observed or read about were successful.

Hmmm, it seems to me that the only sources I could find were from our own Kevmo's endless spamming and the painfully shy Jed-thro Rothwell.

I would like to see multiple sources verifying this number since it's bandied about in every thread. Are the writers trying to reach critical mass so that when people question the number, they can answer," It's settled science". Yeah, like Global Warming.

I would like to see a couple of different, reliable sites confirming this number, until then, it's mere propaganda. Am I supposed to believe the P&F team who were seared, shunned and then declared Persona non grata would sit around knowing the method they found has been confirmed so they can get their credibility back or is this more hucksterism on behalf of the cold fusion true believers?

Do I think cold fusion or LENR is possible? I'm not qualified to say but if they are getting anomalous unexplainable results, then they'd be foolish to stop before they at least figure out the mechanism. If true, it will, not maybe, change the world.

While I might not be qualified on the nuclear physics, I am more than qualified to comment on their test procedures which would have had my physics teachers laugh in my face in front of the whole class. I know some of the slower folks are trying to make a joke about that, no, I was never laughed at in class. Being the first one done on every lab and every test tends to gain respect.

Shut all of us up and produce a peer reviewed journal that verifies the claim. I don't even care if it's 100 instead of 14,700. That would at least imply that there is some there, there which would justify funding for those labs.

Hell, if you want to find out if spanking leads to a homosexual kid, I bet the researchers would get wheelbarrows of money thrown at them and what exactly would the practical result of that type of research be anyway???

Confirm it or stop quoting it.

Here’s my standard ‘ignore’ post to Lx.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2813439/posts?page=91#91

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2811976/posts?page=165#165

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2811976/posts?page=164#164

What is the matter Kevmo, you don't have a real source for those 14,700 replications of the LENR effect? Is your house of cards collapsing? I'd like to see those replications, how they did it, what materials they used, did they use the P&F setup or something new but I guess Kevmo, true to his colors can't provide a valid source.

My standard response to Kevmo’s continual ducking of debate.

Poor Kevmo, the Rhode Island Red of Freerepublic. Here's his latest photo:

Now, I meant the part about Kevmo needing therapy but if he thinks what I supposedly wrote about myself is serious, it's no wonder he believes in Rossi.

Kevmo, do I sound nicer, more sympathetic and understanding? Did you know I have a cold fusion device?

So Kevmo, when you look in the mirror, or do you avoid them, do you weep when you see the image above looking back at you?

Really Kevmo, you think you get to make all the B.S posts you want but are too cowardly to respond. Keeping up with your present ignore trajectory, you'll be speaking to yourself and only yourself in 1.99 months. And you know what your parents told you about how it could cause blindness when they caught you numerous times.

Exactly why do you continue to avoid debate? I would expect you would take every advantage to state your case for LENR. I guess your belief is a kilometer wide and millimeter deep.

I bet your hero Jed Rothwell doesn't duck debate.

P.S. Are you corn fed and free range?

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