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To: Oldpuppymax
Thank you for the post!

Scenes that I remember from some hilarious Federal Government Looney Tunes cartoons

The first one:

"[Trentadue] used a pencil to write a suicide note on the wall of his cell. Next, he tore a sheet into strips, then constructed a ligature with them.

"Trentadue then remade his bed, climbed the wall of his cell, wove his bedsheet rope into a metal vent above his sink and tried to hang himself. The rope broke and he fell, hitting the sink and ricocheting across the cell headfirst into the corner of a metal desk. The force of the impact caused him to rotate 180 degrees and careen across the cell, smashing his head into a wall.

"While unconscious from two head wounds, Trentadue bled profusely onto the floor. After regaining consciousness, he tried to get up but hit his head on the metal stool. He first crawled, then got up and staggered around his cell, leaving blood on the walls and floor.

"After lying on his bed for a while, Trentadue used two plastic toothpaste tubes or a plastic knife to cut his throat, leaving more blood. When that suicide try failed, he reconstructed his bed sheet rope and successfully hanged himself."

As I recall prison personnel waited outside the cell observing the hanging until their boss got there. Then they entered the cell to try to "save" the man.

The second one:

In this one to others who knew him the star performer also appears perfectly normal in every way. For example the wife of Irv Rubin noted, "I saw my husband yesterday. He was just the same as before. He didn't say goodbye."

Irving David Rubin, the chairman of the Jewish Defense League, committed suicide while being held on federal charges in Los Angeles jail.

While waiting with other prisoners outside their cells to go for breakfast Mr. Rubin suddenly slit his throat and dived head first from the third-tier walkway at the Metropolitan Detention Center.

"We were traumatized," said a federal official quoting the prisoners surrounding Mr. Rubin. Indeed.

The third one:

It doesn't have to be prison or even Arkansas when suddenly the uncontrollable urge hits someone.

In 1962 U.S. Department of Agriculture agent Henry Marshall, investigating the cotton allotment irregularities connected with Billy Sol Estes and others in very high Washington places (like LBJ! Especially LBJ! Who the hell else if not LBJ!), used his bolt-action rifle to shoot himself at least five times. Like the hapless man ricocheting and careening around his cell Mr. Marshall's multiple gun-shot wounds prove that he never gave up.

Some others are so old they are in black-and-white and none have been posted to youtube yet.

It took patriots years and years of verbal abuse, threats, ridicule but finally with invaluable help of talk radio! the patriots got some honest investigations of Ruby Ridge and Waco. Don't let the Rat Party (formerly the traditional, patriotic Democratic Party) reinstate the "Ban Free Speech Doctrine."

Just maybe it will happen here also.. but alas now looking for answers in the Trentadue case is now a hate crime and racist now that we know Holder is involved.

4 posted on 12/23/2011 11:18:58 AM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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A Federal Government Looney Tunes cartoon that never got made because of citizen interference. This one was to be about the Weaver family at Ruby Ridge. The script had the Randy Weaver family bungling somehow and blowing up their "compound," burning everything including themselves. But a citizen interfered.

The citizen was Lieutenant Colonel James "Bo" Gritz, one-time member of the Green Berets. Here's what he reported about a man he knows as the man observed a helicopter near the Weaver "compound" from a place he stood overlooking the Weaver "compound".

"First of all on the fuel tank, this was most interesting--a man named Jack, owns a higher terrain uh, a mountain right beside Randy; you can look down on Randy's home. He had some media up there with him and they had a video camera. On second day of the seize uh, a helicopter came up, and it had a uh, a fuel bladder uh, that they--the helicopter came up and was hovering over the cabin. The concern was, that they [Government] were going to dump the fuel on the cabin, and then simply uh, incinerate it. Uh, Jack who owns the land up there, said he started jumping up and down, and waving arms. The pilot noticed them, they had a video camera, and so the pilot pointed that out to authorities, and the, the mission was aborted. Now, they might say they were delivering the fuel up to top of the hill to be used by generators or whatever by the Federal Forces. But if that was so, why did the aircraft abort and go on back and land down in the valley? Kind of interesting."

BTW during the real Congressional hearings on Ruby Ridge the federal agents were careful to refer to the Weaver home as a "compound;" even quickly correcting themselves if they slipped up and referred to it as what it was, a cabin.

12 posted on 12/23/2011 12:22:55 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael

Lets not leave out the Vince Foster suicide.Or the plane crash that killed Ron Brown.

A lot of conspiracy stories out about the Clinton bunch and now the same guy working for Obama.

I don’t know the truth of any of them, but I have read that when the FBI planted people in with the KKK during the Civil Rights era,those people stirred up more violence than any real KKK person did.

18 posted on 12/23/2011 5:07:35 PM PST by Venturer
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