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Lord of the Rings - Yearly Ritual
12/26/11 | dagogo redux

Posted on 12/26/2011 5:31:35 PM PST by dagogo redux

Every year now for a number of years my wife and I watch the entire six disc extended version of the Lord of the Rings during the gloomy Northwest winter around the Thanksgiving-to New-Years time. It helps us through the winter gloom, but since Obama's election it also helps us maintain hope and courage.

I grew up on Tolkien before he was well known, and it probably shaped me in ways I can scarcely appreciate. My wife on the other hand, from the Third World, had no inkling of Tolkien until this movie cycle came out. We are both very deeply devoted to our faiths, but we both also find a special sort of inspiration from these movies that speak to us powerfully in these times. So that they won't grow stale, we limit them to a once a year viewing. We're not sure how they will fit in with events next year.

Just posting to stimulate discussion from others for whom these tales and movies might have left an influence in these dark times.


TOPICS: Books/Literature; Miscellaneous; TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: hobbit; hope; legends; lessons; lordoftherings; lotr; vanity
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1 posted on 12/26/2011 5:31:44 PM PST by dagogo redux
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To: dagogo redux

Oh my goodness ... my wife and I do the exact same thing!!!! Usually extended cuts aren’t as good, but these are marvelous!

I think that is awesome you do this too. = )


2 posted on 12/26/2011 5:33:50 PM PST by RIghtwardHo
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To: dagogo redux
We're not sure how they will fit in with events next year.

ALL my battle flags will proudly proclaim "FOR FRODO!"

3 posted on 12/26/2011 5:35:39 PM PST by bigheadfred
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To: dagogo redux

Our family does this every November and then spend the next 11 months talking about what great movies these are and quoting our favorite lines.


4 posted on 12/26/2011 5:41:17 PM PST by ChocChipCookie
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To: RIghtwardHo; dagogo redux

My wife doesn’t like these movies. Ummmm, could I borrow....


5 posted on 12/26/2011 5:42:34 PM PST by bigheadfred
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To: dagogo redux

What’s the difference with the “extended version”?

I’ve been reading and re-reading the books for about 25 years now, and while I enjoyed the Peter Jackson version, I didn’t enjoy it enough to pay for any DVDs.

Does the extended version include scenes not in the film? If so, can you give us a brief rundown of the added scenes?


6 posted on 12/26/2011 5:44:32 PM PST by risen_feenix
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To: dagogo redux

The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers (2002)

Frodo: I can’t do this, Sam.

Sam: I know. It’s all wrong. By rights we shouldn’t even be here. But we are. It’s like in the great stories, Mr. Frodo. The ones that really mattered. Full of darkness and danger, they were. And sometimes you didn’t want to know the end. Because how could the end be happy? How could the world go back to the way it was when so much bad had happened? But in the end, it’s only a passing thing, this shadow. Even darkness must pass. A new day will come. And when the sun shines it will shine out the clearer. Those were the stories that stayed with you. That meant something, even if you were too small to understand why. But I think, Mr. Frodo, I do understand. I know now. Folk in those stories had lots of chances of turning back, only they didn’t. They kept going. Because they were holding on to something.

Frodo: What are we holding onto, Sam?

Sam: That there’s some good in this world, Mr. Frodo... and it’s worth fighting for.


7 posted on 12/26/2011 5:45:08 PM PST by ChocChipCookie
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To: ChocChipCookie

Us too. One son can quote most of the movie. The other has become jaded after he read the books and saw the differences between them and the movie.


8 posted on 12/26/2011 5:45:56 PM PST by taterjay
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To: dagogo redux

How wonderful that you have such a tradition!

The trilogy is such a message and rallying cry, isn’t it?


9 posted on 12/26/2011 5:51:45 PM PST by Old Sarge (RIP FReeper Skyraider (1930-2011) - You Are Missed)
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To: risen_feenix

Added scenes: Age of Aragorn, Finding the food at Isengard by the hobbits, death of Saramon, Confronting the Mouth of Saron, Merry and Pippin drinking water at Fangorn Forest, Dialogue with White Gandalf, Scene of the brothers Farmir and Boromer with their Father, Denathor. Ones thought of off the top of my head.


10 posted on 12/26/2011 5:51:56 PM PST by taterjay
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To: dagogo redux

My sons Frodo, Merry, and Samwise, my daughter Éowyn, and my wife Galadriel and I watch it once a week.


11 posted on 12/26/2011 5:53:12 PM PST by DManA ( ex)
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To: dagogo redux

...The movies are fine, but, I prefer to read JRR’s work from time to time.


12 posted on 12/26/2011 5:53:56 PM PST by gargoyle (...a well informed public and a well regulated militia...)
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To: dagogo redux

I enjoy reading the Lord of the Rings trilogy every couple of years. The movies were so well done they should be watched again and again.


13 posted on 12/26/2011 5:57:18 PM PST by Sawdring
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To: risen_feenix

Too much was added to run through all the differences, but they are enormous.

First the choppiness of seeing three movies, each a year apart, as it was originally released, makes it all hang together so much better.

Then, all the material - all the scenes and parts of scenes that makes the story gel and make sense - all the material cut out to make the movies stand as normal-length features - all that is put back in. The movie just flows now, it lives, it breathes, it makes sense.

The extended edition also contains wonderful behind-the-scenes stuff about the creation of the film. That sort of stuff usually bores the heck out of me, but having seen it once - the first year we watched it - has really helped me appreciate the artistry and vision that went into recreating Tolkien’s story in this film version.

I’ve no problem, or course, if anyone sticks with the books - they are the source, the original texts, and dear to me; but to dismiss the movie after having merely watched the standard theatrical releases years apart or even altogether in one sitting is to have missed something truly worthwhile, IMO.

Either way, I’m happy for your love of the books.


14 posted on 12/26/2011 6:00:35 PM PST by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: taterjay

Also the scene where Aragorn orders the pirates to surrender, at the threat of force.

Pirates: HAHA! You and what army??

Aragorn: (whispering) *This* army.

Then the ghost army charges ...


15 posted on 12/26/2011 6:01:55 PM PST by ROTB (Christian sin breeds enemies for the USA. If you're a Christian, stop sinning, and spread the Word..)
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To: dagogo redux
Here's my beer goblet:


16 posted on 12/26/2011 6:03:18 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: risen_feenix

I think there’s about 1 1/2 hours of footage not in the film if I’m adding in my head correctly.

The making of the film, which they go into in the extended DVD, is nearly as good as the film. These guys broke new ground in special effects.


17 posted on 12/26/2011 6:06:22 PM PST by Free Vulcan (Election 2012 - No Prisoners. No Mercy.)
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We’re actually watching it right now, I got the blu-ray version today


18 posted on 12/26/2011 6:07:30 PM PST by yankeegohome (not the pen but what it writes)
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To: ChocChipCookie

Precisely. Thanks. It moves me deeply every time I hear it, as does this great scene:

Gamling: Too few have come. We cannot defeat the armies of Mordor.

Theoden: No. We cannot. But we will meet them in battle nonetheless.


19 posted on 12/26/2011 6:10:27 PM PST by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: DManA

LOL......literally


20 posted on 12/26/2011 6:14:36 PM PST by Reynoldo
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To: dagogo redux
In the past year or two, I've done a lot of audiobook reading, since I put in a lot of windshield time and I can get the books for free through the library. I listen to them while I drive. I've read all of the Aubrey/Maturin books this way (which I greatly enjoyed), and now I'm on a P.G. Wodehouse binge (Jeeves and Wooster, Ukridge). This has been a terrific way to spend the time.

I'm thinking that after Wodehouse, I'll do Tolkien via audiobook. I first read the print books back in the late 60s, and then again about ten years ago. This time I may audio-read the LOTR books . . . then watch the LOTR movies, the extended version . . . then read the Hobbit book . . . and then be ready for the Hobbit movie when it comes out.

21 posted on 12/26/2011 6:19:09 PM PST by Charles Henrickson
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To: risen_feenix

The extended versions are SO MUCH better than the theatrical releases. The extended and added scenes make all the difference in the world, and they make The Two Towers so so much better than it was in the theater.

Truly, if you are a fan of these films, treat yourself to the extended editions.


22 posted on 12/26/2011 6:21:32 PM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: dagogo redux
I've done the same thing. The series gives one hope in the darkest hours. This spring in Wisconsin when it looked like the unions would take over the Wisconsin Supreme Court I listened to the whole series on audio cassettes. Turns out the union backed candidate lost. The election was a little too close for comfort but the good guy won.
23 posted on 12/26/2011 6:24:09 PM PST by Hamilcar_Barca
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To: dagogo redux

The unabridged cd audio production of the LotRs from Recorded Books, Inc. narrated by Rob Inglis is really great, as is their unabridged The Hobbit, with the same narrator. The books are read without becoming too melodramatic, so the story and not the production is what you notice. I am just now listening to The Return of the King on my second time through the set. Personally, I believe Tolkien meant these stories to be read aloud over many evenings by the fireside, not chopped up and served in movies. Movies kill the imagination of an audience. Listen to Tolkien sometime - he built those sentences to be read aloud.


24 posted on 12/26/2011 6:30:04 PM PST by Coyote Choir
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To: Coyote Choir

While different venues for these great stories each have much to offer, I think you are right.

For me, it is similar with Fagle’s translation of the Iliad - it truly needs to be read aloud to get the full impact. It’s true with much that is written well.

My wife hates to read, but loves to hear me read - I think I will read these books aloud to her. Thanks for sparking that idea!


25 posted on 12/26/2011 6:47:06 PM PST by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: Coyote Choir
The unabridged cd audio production of the LotRs from Recorded Books, Inc. narrated by Rob Inglis is really great, as is their unabridged The Hobbit, with the same narrator.

That's exactly the kind of suggestion I'm looking for. I want to know what are excellent, unabridged, audiobook readings of LOTR and the Hobbit.

I've been impressed by how much an excellent narrator can do, just using his voice, to enhance the enjoyment of a book. I listened to Patrick Tull do all the Aubrey/Maturin books, and now I'm listening to Jonathan Cecil do as much P. G. Wodehouse as I can find, and these guys do a great job!

26 posted on 12/26/2011 6:47:40 PM PST by Charles Henrickson
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To: dagogo redux
I have to say that the first movie is still my favorite of the three. Everything was still new and incredible and it ended with tragedy but a note of hope.

The third movie was good, but the shaky cams in the battle scenes bothered my eyes and then there were the multitude of endings while I was fighting my own internal struggle with a 64 oz Diet Coke.

27 posted on 12/26/2011 6:58:45 PM PST by Tanniker Smith (I didn't know she was a liberal when I married her.)
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To: dagogo redux

I’m doing my fifth or sixth rereading of the Harry Potter series and have the last two movies from Netflix. I know there are anti-HP people on Freepers so flame away but it has led me back to Jane Austin, Dickens, and Shakespeare.


28 posted on 12/26/2011 6:58:45 PM PST by Mercat (It's Christmas until Jan. 6th)
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To: dagogo redux

Just received the blue-ray version for Christmas... 15 discs! My older extended versions were 2 discs each (total 6 discs), but each movie is on one disc, front and back. In the blue-ray version each movie is in 2 parts on two discs. I’ve seen each of the movies a dozen times, but there is so much content on the blue-ray discs (storyline production, behind the scenes, etc.) that it will keep me occupied the entire winter!

Became a Tolkien fan after seeing Fellowship when it was first released. Devoured all of the books and consider Tolkien one of the best writers of all times. His descriptions of scenery are pure magic, not to mention that he was able to create entire worlds including new languages!

I’ve been following Peter Jackson on FB and he has been giving updates from New Zealand on the progress of the Hobbit which will be out in about 330 or so days :) I can’t wait!


29 posted on 12/26/2011 6:59:13 PM PST by Reddy (B.O. stinks)
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To: ChocChipCookie

My son was given the assignment in his Speech class to re-enact a great speech. He chose to do that one. His teacher said that he did an excellent job :)


30 posted on 12/26/2011 7:01:01 PM PST by Reddy (B.O. stinks)
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To: yankeegohome

“We’re actually watching it right now, I got the blu-ray version today”

I watch the blu-ray extended version every year; along with the blu-ray versions of Band of Brothers, The Pacific, Firefly and Serenity.


31 posted on 12/26/2011 7:22:22 PM PST by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: dagogo redux; Old Sarge

Thanks Dagogo redux!
Pinging a friend..
PING!
;0)


32 posted on 12/26/2011 7:43:55 PM PST by MS.BEHAVIN (Women who behave rarely make history)
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To: bigheadfred

hahahahahahaha! Absolutely!


33 posted on 12/26/2011 8:03:36 PM PST by RIghtwardHo
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To: Charles Henrickson

By the way, there are full cast audio play versions of LOTR:

LOTR (abridged, BBC): http://www.amazon.com/Lord-Rings-BBC-Dramatization/dp/0553456539

LOTR - FOTR (NPR, abridged or not, I can’t tell, but I listened to an excellent American production that was abridged and I think this might be it): http://www.amazon.com/Lord-Rings-Part-Fellowship-Ring/dp/1565116674/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1324957398&sr=1-2

http://www.amazon.com/Two-Towers-Lord-Rings/dp/B005GNKJN4/ref=pd_bxgy_b_text_b

http://www.amazon.com/Lord-Rings-Return-Playhouse-Dramatization/dp/1565116690/ref=pd_sim_b_5

The whole NPR set: http://www.amazon.com/Lord-Rings-Wood-Box-wood/dp/1565115503/ref=pd_sim_b_9

BBC Consumer version: http://www.amazon.com/Lord-Rings-BBC-Dramatization-Consumer/dp/160283492X/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1324957710&sr=1-1

Hobbit (abridged, BBC): http://www.amazon.com/Hobbit-BBC-Dramatization-J-Tolkien/dp/1602834547/ref=pd_sim_b_1

BBC version of Hobbit, LOTR, and other works in one set: http://www.amazon.com/J-Tolkien-Collection-BBC-Dramatization/dp/1602836612/ref=pd_sim_b_24 I assume abridged!

NPR Hobbit: http://www.amazon.com/Hobbit-Wood-Box-J-R-R-Tolkien/dp/156511552X/ref=pd_bxgy_b_text_b


34 posted on 12/26/2011 8:03:36 PM PST by vladimir998
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To: vladimir998; Coyote Choir

I don’t want abridged, and I don’t want a full-cast drmatization. Those may be good, but they’re not what I’m looking for. I want unabridged, and with one narrator reading the whole thing. (He can change his voice for different characters, as Tull and Cecil do for the books I mentioned above.)


35 posted on 12/26/2011 8:13:56 PM PST by Charles Henrickson
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To: vladimir998; Coyote Choir

One reader to do them all.


36 posted on 12/26/2011 8:17:49 PM PST by Charles Henrickson
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To: taterjay

Watching the Lord of the Nazgul break Gandalf’s staff and knock him on his a*s just before the horn of Rohan sounds.


37 posted on 12/26/2011 8:28:47 PM PST by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: Charles Henrickson

Then you’ll definitely love Ingles (is that unabridged though?).


38 posted on 12/26/2011 8:40:54 PM PST by vladimir998
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To: kalee

Bfl


39 posted on 12/26/2011 8:45:20 PM PST by kalee (The offenses we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we engrave in marble. J Huett 1658)
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To: dagogo redux

When I was a wee one, back in the mid to late 70’s, my aunt took her daughter, my brother and myself into her basement and read us “The Hobbit” .
We loved it and on my 10th birthday, my neighbor bought me the set and I read them. Dont remember too much about them, being 30 years ago but hubby has read the series once a year, for the past 20 some years.

I have the vhs tapes , the “normal” dvds, the extended dvd’s set with the appendices.
Now that last set......I’ve just about worn it out. Plus my now 5 year old is responsible for some of the scratches and one lost disc ( sigh ).

In fact, I wanted this set replaced for one of my Christmas gifts and since I didnt get it yesterday, I guess I’ll have to buy it for myself LOL

One of my all time favorites. And yes, it’s about time to watch them again.

Ohhhhhhhhh I cannot WAIT til The Hobbit is released.

Thanks for this thread ~


40 posted on 12/26/2011 8:45:43 PM PST by simplesimon (You are entitled to your own opinions but not your own "facts"...........)
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To: vladimir998; Coyote Choir

I checked on our county library website, and they have the audiobooks of Rob Inglis reading the Hobbit and LOTR, unabridged. This sounds like what I’m looking for, so I plan to embark on this project probably starting in mid-April (busy with other things till then).


41 posted on 12/26/2011 8:57:03 PM PST by Charles Henrickson
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To: Charles Henrickson
I don't know how many audio-book versions there are out there but this guy has done a pretty nice job and it's all free on Youtube or you can download an MP3 version, which he says is better, from his website. He hasn't finished the project yet but he's well into the third book and it looks like he will get it done.

Audiobook Read by Phil Dragash and edited, and mixed, sound-effected, and designed. Music by Howard Shore for the Films by New Line Cinema.

42 posted on 12/26/2011 9:00:17 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: TigersEye
Thank you for this. Looks good and the mp3 would be perfect to have on the phone. I've wanted to read Tolkien and Lewis again but have other books I have not read in the queue. Could he nice for times I have to shut out the surroundings around work.

I have not watched my extended BD yet and this week may be the best time to do it.

43 posted on 12/26/2011 9:12:15 PM PST by Chipper (You can't kill an Obamazombie by destroying the brain...they didn't have one to begin with.)
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To: dagogo redux

I like the LOTR but every so often I want to watch the 1967 Russian version of WAR AND PEACE, followed by Dino de Laurentus’ WATERLOO on those cold winter nights.

But then I also like to watch EL CID smash the moslem moors in Spain.


44 posted on 12/26/2011 9:22:37 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: TigersEye

The musical score by Mr. Shore is another huge plus for the film format, and another somewhat unnoticed area in which the full flow of the extended version shines. The inspiring leitmotifs create indelible felt experiences that weave throughout and bind together the various elements of the story. It couldn’t have been done better.


45 posted on 12/26/2011 9:23:06 PM PST by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: Chipper

You’re welcome. I have enjoyed listening to it.


46 posted on 12/26/2011 9:39:31 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: SVTCobra03

Firefly!!!! A show that should have never been cancelled!!


47 posted on 12/26/2011 9:57:04 PM PST by yankeegohome (not the pen but what it writes)
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To: dagogo redux

The first movie came out less than six months after the late Freeper MrConfettiMan found out he had cancer. This was his favorite line:

Frodo: I wish the Ring had never come to me. I wish none of this had happened.
Gandalf: So do all who live to see such times, but that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us. There are other forces at work in this world, Frodo, besides the will of evil.


48 posted on 12/26/2011 11:57:20 PM PST by Explorer89 (And now, let the wild rumpus start!!)
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To: dagogo redux
The extended edition also contains wonderful behind-the-scenes stuff about the creation of the film. That sort of stuff usually bores the heck out of me, but having seen it once - the first year we watched it - has really helped me appreciate the artistry and vision that went into recreating Tolkien’s story in this film version.

I don't know where I saw it, but there was a feature about one scene in particular in the movies. Frodo and Sam were supposed to push a boat in the water, so divers had gone in to scour the river floor to make sure there was no debris because the actors were barefoot. However, when they started filming, Sean Astin walked a few feet into the water and got a look on his face that alerted everyone that something was wrong. The divers had missed a piece of glass, and it had impaled Sean's foot. He had to be flown to a medical center.

I can't watch that scene without picturing--feeling--the glass piercing Sean's foot. Oh, well. I liked the books better anyway. It's about time to read them again.

49 posted on 12/27/2011 5:22:34 AM PST by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: dagogo redux

I also watch the movies again in the darkest part of the year. The extended versions improve what is already wonderful material.


50 posted on 12/27/2011 5:59:00 AM PST by Nepeta
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