Skip to comments.In Beck’s Shadow, Rise of ‘The Five’
Posted on 12/27/2011 10:02:33 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
When Fox News and Glenn Beck broke up in June, the networks chairman, Roger Ailes, knew he could not put any single man or woman in that 5 p.m. time slot, lest he or she be compared to Mr. Beck or be pummeled in the press if the ratings tumbled.
So, about a week and a half before Mr. Beck signed off, Mr. Ailes wrote the words The Five on a piece of paper. Looking to the ABC talk show The View and to the time of day as inspiration, he pictured five co-hosts who could argue about the days top stories without feeling antipathy for one another. When announced on June 30, Mr. Becks last day, The Five seemed to be a temporary fix even to the co-hosts, who were initially told they were just trying out for a weekend show.
But the show has stuck and has become a permanent part of the networks lineup. The shows ratings, though generally not as high as Mr. Becks, are growing. And most important, the advertisers that had shunned Mr. Beck are coming back to the time slot....
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The five sucks.
Sorry it has apparently caught on.
I can’t stand the show and never watch it.
Red Eye is much better, although it has it’s off days.
I haven’t intentionally watched a FOX program since Beck left. I might stop on a story as I’m channel surfing but that’s it.
Greg Gutfeld is funny/witty, and even more so on his Red Eye show, hard to catch at 3 am.
That’s why Silicon Valley invented the DVR.
I remember in describing Paul during the last debate, he said,’Paul was just himself. He manages to say something reasonable but follows it with something goofy. It’s like ordering steak topped by necco waffers.’ LOL
Yes, but I’ve stopped watching Red Eye, too. I’m fed up with Faux.
Minuses: Bob Beckel is simply a toad. Nasty and ungracious and a liar. Dana Perrino is wishy-washy.
Pluses. Greg Gutfeld always makes me laugh. Kimberly Guilfoyle, hubba hubba, and she’s fearless and unapologetic.
I like it more than Red Eye these days. I can’t take the painfully unfunny “Bill Schultz punks people” segments that take up too much of the show. And, my favorites S.E. Cupp and Imogen Lloyd-Webber have lately disappeared.
Hadn’t really thought about it much; it wasn’t on purpose but I kind of lost interest in the network and haven’t been watching since.
Bill is the token Democrat on that show (as well as one of the three writers, IIRC) so that’s understandable.
“The Five” get a “2” on the ten scale in my view...
Interesting article regarding cable news and advertisers as well as why Fox and Beck broke up. Looks like truth isn’t big when it comes to profit and ad sales.
Fox News is, first and foremost, a business.
Whichever of the women on the show is showing the most leg gets to sit next to Bechtel. That would be a permanent seat for Dhue - where’d she go BTW.
SC Cupp and Lloyd Webber are with Glenn on GBTV. I love Glenn’s
new show however sometimes 2 hours is just to long.
The Five is stupid because it turns news in to entertainment. Beckel is a boor and Gutfeld should just stick to RedEye.
Laurie Dhue wrote a book about her alcoholism and she’s out of the news business, working for her own charity, which IIRC, helps other women afflicted with alcoholism.
RedEye constantly pushes the gay agenda. I’ve stopped watching that. About all I ever watch on FNC is Special Report with Bret Baier.
Laurie Dhue left the news business. She wrote a book chronicling her battle with alcoholism. She’s helping others in similar situations.
No Faux Fo’ Moi!
I tape it and watch at 8 pm in place of whatshisface.Great show.
Consider the source; NYT.
Is Fox still on?
It has steadily gained audience share since then, and in mid-September Mr. Ailes made the show permanent. So far this month it had 1.6 million daily viewers, matching Mr. Becks final numbers for the first time.
As it is, I only DVR it so I can see what Greg Gutfeld says.
The only FNC show I watch from beginning to end anymore is Red Eye.
Sheeeeyit. You mean the advertisers who slinked (slunk?) (slank?) away in fear after being harrassed by The Left Wing Lunatic Fringe.
Every channel is, first and foremost, a propaganda outlet. Business comes second.
Soros said he’d “get” Fox over Glenn> Murdoch was severely attacked in the UK. Murdoch now has a big interet in Dubai media. Faux news is borderline PETA fake conservative now.
Establishment, left or right. Stuart Varney and Cavuto are exceptions.
Eric Bolling is Conservative. I forget the name of his show on Fox Business Network but he’s a good guy.
Isn’t he a business reporter?
Yes. His show is called Follow The Money on Fox Business Network.
Beckel is just revolting. I usually turn it over to something else when his segment begins.
My wife made the key insight on "The Five" -- it is simply a conservative version of "The View", right along with a token liberal for laughs and to serve as a punching bag (Beckel), just as Elizabeth Hasselbeck is the token conservative on her program.
Can you imagine the ratings of a show that consisted of 4 Conservative women and one token Lib?
I think the ratings for that show would be through the roof.
I would take Guilfoyle and Tantaros a lot more seriously if they weren’t made up like hookers with mini skirts and purposely positioned with the leg shots at the end of the table. (Gee, I wonder why Bob Beckel and Juan Williams aren’t seated at the end?) How degrading! They look like they spend all of their free time shoe-shopping, having their hair and make-up done, and competing to see who can wear the tightest tops.
I think the view gets roughly 750,000 viewers +/- 150.
I didn’t click on the NYT website (I never do). Do they offer any actual numbers?
The funny part of that is that propaganda IS business.
None of the Marxists have failed to live better than their Party lessers, nor Nazis, nor any others who ply the masses with propaganda, including our political 'betters'.
Those insiders can trade tidbits which make 'news' outlets look more relevant, which gets those outlets more ad revenue, etc.
Money is power is money.
You say that like it's a bad thing.
Like Greg Gutfeld, but The Five is absolutely awful.
Fox News has mostly become unwatchable. There’s very little news on Fox News these days. It’s a lot cheaper if a so-called news channel doesn’t have to pay for reporters and assets to cover news in the field.
Every Fox show simply repeats the same silly stories all day long that some one thinks will attract ratings.
Only reason to watch The Five is to see Andrea.
It’s like Fox’s version of “The View.”
The Five doesn’t cut it—I am sure they could come up with something better. Put up another show—maybe something with some bite to it and not pablum. Something like Joe Pine—something edgy without the Beck Preaching. Savage?
I used to watch it for Kimberly, hot hot hot. However Beckel and his substitute, Juan Williams are so annoying, even for liberals, that it became too much to watch.
The single worst show Fox has ever put on. We can’t stand it. We wait for Brett Baier at 6PM
Precisely the reason I quit watching RedEye. That is, when I’m still awake at that hour.
Happy New Year Chief!
LOLOLOL. You’re right about Beckel. It was hard enough to endure him once a week on Hannity’s panel. Now, I won’t watch him on Hannity’s either. Enough!
At 5 I switch to Fox Business Channel and watch the “Willis report” with Gerri Willis. If you don’t get FBC demand it!
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