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Obama: I can so hold you indefinitely without trial if I want
Flopping Aces ^ | 01-03-12 | DrJohn

Posted on 01/03/2012 12:06:47 PM PST by Starman417

In his latest signing statement Obama said:

"My administration will not authorize the indefinite military detention without trial of American citizens," Obama said in the signing statement. "Indeed, I believe that doing so would break with our most important traditions and values as a nation."

Now why would he even need to say that were it not possible?

Does his signing statement make you feel safer? It ought not. After all, it was Obama who said unequivocally that he would not use signing statements to "get his way."

[VIDEO AT SITE]

Obviously it is now possible for Obama to hold any American he deems a potential terrorist indefinitely without trial.

And who can be declared a terrorist? Among the possibilities are these:

People or groups who:

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TOPICS: Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: 1031; defensebill; detention; dhs; doj; fema; holder; mccain; ndaa; obama; possecomitatus; terrorism
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1 posted on 01/03/2012 12:06:50 PM PST by Starman417
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To: Starman417

If he really had no intention of detaining American citizens, he would not have signed the bill. It’s always what you do never what you say.


2 posted on 01/03/2012 12:09:57 PM PST by formosa (Formosa)
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To: formosa
"My administration will not authorize the indefinite military detention without trial of American citizens,"

Well good for him but maybe the NEXT administration will authorize indefinite detention and Obama could be the first customer!

3 posted on 01/03/2012 12:13:57 PM PST by precisionshootist
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To: formosa

But the bill doesnt say unambiguoulsy that US Citizens can be detained, It doesnt make it any easier than it already was for the Feds to detain someone. Can you point to a Section that does ? And again, Obama and the liberals did not get this law enacted on their own, leaders respected as Conservatives helped as well.


4 posted on 01/03/2012 12:17:21 PM PST by emax
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To: Starman417

Obama never tells the truth. I am not amused.


5 posted on 01/03/2012 12:18:32 PM PST by dforest
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To: Starman417
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We don't need no steenking trials.

6 posted on 01/03/2012 12:19:28 PM PST by newheart (When does policy become treason?)
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To: Starman417
Somebody better alert Ellen Barkin

Ellen Barkin: If Obama Loses, Police State 'Around the Corner'

7 posted on 01/03/2012 12:21:32 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: Starman417

And why is the media silent on this? If it were Bush there’d be howling clear to Mars and back. Oh, wait, never mind. It’d be racist if it was brought up.


8 posted on 01/03/2012 12:22:06 PM PST by SkyDancer ("If You Want To Learn To Love Better, You Should Start With A Friend Who You Hate")
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To: Starman417

Now Freepers won’t be able to vote as he will arrest us and prevent us from voting in the 2012 election. My oh My....


9 posted on 01/03/2012 12:25:35 PM PST by ncfool (The new USSA - United Socialist States of AmeriKa. Welcome to Obummers world or Obamaville USSA.)
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To: emax

This bill does NOT say UNambiguously, that US Citizens can NOT be detained. Therefore, since it does NOT say that, the reverse is true, that US Citizens CAN be detained.


10 posted on 01/03/2012 12:27:04 PM PST by RoadGumby (This is not where I belong, Take this world and give me Jesus.)
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To: emax

You need to read the whole story.
Obama added the provision to detain US citizens into this bill.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CCoQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fjonathanturley.org%2F2012%2F01%2F02%2Ffinal-curtain-obama-signs-indefinite-detention-of-citizens-into-law-as-final-act-of-2011%2F&ei=FWMDT9T9D8WIgwfM4MWmAg&usg=AFQjCNEDJtulhPs6zX1tNehs4W6EEbJXfQ&sig2=7jiKHHtZLqhQ7ickxkga5g


11 posted on 01/03/2012 12:33:18 PM PST by dforest
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To: precisionshootist

It’s what has been happening all along. What the hell do you think Gitmo is about and the suits that have been filed. This is nothing new.


12 posted on 01/03/2012 12:40:17 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Starman417

The illegitimate bisexual Marxist Kenyan Muslim Usurper got exactly what he wanted out of this law.

Am I now on the watch list?


13 posted on 01/03/2012 12:43:00 PM PST by Old Sarge (RIP FReeper Skyraider (1930-2011) - You Are Missed)
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To: RoadGumby

The Bill doesnt make any statements either way-US citizens are subjected to existing laws and authorities.


14 posted on 01/03/2012 12:43:42 PM PST by emax
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I was surprised that Rush briefly discussed this at the start of his third hour today.


15 posted on 01/03/2012 12:45:20 PM PST by Coyote Choir
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To: Starman417
Obama: I can so hold you indefinitely without trial if I want

Well, look at you all growed up.

16 posted on 01/03/2012 12:45:32 PM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: indylindy

He didnt add any provision that clearly says US Citizens can be detained indefinitely. And when an ammendment was created to specifically exempt US Citizens from Section 1031 or 1032, the majority of Congress voted against it. So it was not “just” Obama who prevented the bill from specifically ensuring that sections 1031 and 1032 exclude US Citizens. It was liberal and consevrative elements of Congress. And there are legal reasons as to why they would do that, not merely because they want to to track down all the millions of people who post opinions online and detain them


17 posted on 01/03/2012 12:49:10 PM PST by emax
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To: Sacajaweau
"It’s what has been happening all along. What the hell do you think Gitmo is about and the suits that have been filed. This is nothing new."

I'm not sure what you mean. This is new or there would not have been anything for Obama to sign. I have not heard of any American citizens in Gitmo. Certainly none that were taken custody in the US while shopping for boots at an Army Surplus store. Which is the power that has now been seized by Obama.

18 posted on 01/03/2012 12:51:28 PM PST by precisionshootist
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To: emax

You didn’t read it, did you?

Obama added a signing statement that says he could do it but won’t do it.

geesh


19 posted on 01/03/2012 12:53:40 PM PST by dforest
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To: Starman417

Does it also apply to Obama? Lock em away!


20 posted on 01/03/2012 12:56:57 PM PST by Leep
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