Skip to comments.Iowa ethanol industry celebrates Romney-Santorum
Posted on 01/05/2012 1:35:21 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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And we see with all of the candidates that they have issues with connections to government programs that dispense taxpayer funds to private parties - Perry included. To me it is counterproductive to attack the conservative candidates on these matters when we have Obama in the White House tearing up contract law and dishing millions and billions to his supporters and his pet agendas.
You are not gonna find a Boy Scout in this crowd. Let's figure out what is important and tell those slinging the campaign operative dirt to back off.
Subsidy sucking leaches called farmers!!!
Make ethanol illegal for automobile fuel!!!!
“Santorum being on the wrong side of National Right to Work and Jim DeMint will do him no favors in South Carolina.”
Again, we shall see. It’ll be interesting to see what kind of statement Jim DeMint makes regarding this field of candidates, if any. The one thing I know is he won’t support Romney. Gingrich? Doubtful. So that leaves Santorum and Perry.
I do think people need to focus a bit more on the big picture rather than one or two small issues. Having a principled conservative in the White House is the goal, eh?
I have to say you make a good point. We all need to bring facts forward to educate others. I certainly appreciate the info I receive from those who do the work and that would include Cincinatus’ Wife. Perhaps some things could be considered in the “that is more than I need to know category” but that is their call.
Who would you rather have dealing with Iran, Perry or Obama? Anyway, Perry retired in 1977 with the rank of Captain.
Perry is a patriotic American who loves our military. Perry is a veteran.
Who would I rather have? Neither.
Fine, who do you think is the best person to take on Iran?
The person who puts America and her citizens FIRST.
That’s a cop out, who doesn’t want that? Specifically, WHO do you want to deal with Iran?
Lost in the telling of this story is the fact that the Santorums chose to home school their children. Here's a candidate that so closely agrees with us on home schooling, that he has his kids enrolled in a program.
Instead of celebrating that fact, we are here discussing if it was naughty of him to register his kids in the district where he pays income, property, and labor related taxes.
This is a Democrat contrivance as surely as the charges against Tom Delay and Sarah Palin were. You should have recognized that and moved on. Instead you're here trying to take Santorum down using their contrivance.
Once again, from the article:
After a speech Monday at the Pennsylvania Press Club in Harrisburg, Mr. Santorum was asked to defend his use of Penn Hills funds for the charter school.
He replied, "I defend it as I'm a taxpayer in Penn Hills, Pennsylvania. That's where I pay my income tax, that's where I pay my real estate tax, that's where I pay wage taxes, state taxes, I pay taxes like any other state taxpayer. And most people who pay taxes to the school district, who claim that place as their only residence in Pennsylvania, which it is, usually have the right to be able to send their kids to school."
I respectfully ask you to please quit using Democrat talking points to try to damage the political future of a good man.
Wish I could disagree with you here, but I think you’ve pretty well nailed it.
Thanks for the note of agreement Rintense.
Some of my notes are probably more for public consumption than they are direct comments to an individual. I was pretty sure you agreed with this, and didn’t mean to imply otherwise.
Thanks for pointing out those facts. I hope you’re right with regard to South Carolina. Can’t say that I don’t have some concerns about that.
Reason no. 2 to support Perry: Perry is pro-life. He signed a budget defunding Planned Parenthood with the result 12 Planned Parenthood have closed. Perry also signed legislation requiring a parent’s consent to an abortion.
LOL, that was a good one. I may not have liked everything the guy stood for, but he was a character, in a good sense.
I appreciate your plea, but “the dark side”?
Surely you don’t think Santorum is evil, do you?
I think ethanol subsidies are taking food off the shelves by increasing their prices. I also know that ethanol is an additive that causes damage to cars/trucks not specifically designed to withstand the corrosion of seals, gaskets, etc.
While Perry has taken the subsidies, I haven’t met or heard of a politician I can name who hasn’t in some way endorsed the subsidies for fear of tree hugger lobby vengeance. I don’t approve of any politician who supports, or gets paid subsidies.
Sorry, honey, but putting America and her citizens firsts is NOT a cop out. Of course, you’re supporting someone who gives in-state tuition to illegals so I doubt you’d understand.
The "instate" tuition issue was not controversial in TX. The legislation passed 170-4. Many other states have passed similar legislation.
TX did this because of the failure of the feds to deal with illegals, TX was stuck with them and they made lemonade out of lemons.
When it comes to ethanol subsidies, I agree with you.
I don’t think it’s right for the government to subsidize this industry. It does have a negative impact on food prices.
My ideal candidate would not have received these subsidies or supported them.
While in Iowa last June, Santorum stated publicly that he wanted to phase out Ethanol subsidies. I believe that’s the direction he should be going.
Note post #3.
And yet, instead of blaming the feds and burdening their citizens even further, states like Arizona and Alabama stood up for their sovereignty, with already decreasing numbers of illegals.
Perry is nothing but excuses and blame.
Oh, and btw, those illegals who are receiving in-state breaks are also eligible for STATE AID. Would you care to define what state aid is and who, essentially, pays for it?
For lurkers, here’s how Texas Grants works. The difference for illegals is that to qualify to be a Texas Resident, they must attend Texas High Schools 3 years in a row:
For an initial award:
Are Texas residents
Have not been convicted of a felony or crime involving a controlled substance
Show financial need
Have an EFC less than or equal to 4000
Register for the Selective Service or are exempt from this requirement
Be a graduate of an accredited high school in Texas not earlier than the 1998-99 school year
Complete the Recommended High School Program or Distinguished Achievement Program in high school
Enroll in a non-profit public college or university in Texas within 16 months of graduation from a public or accredited private high school in Texas and
Have accumulated no more than 30 semester credit hours, excluding those earned for dual or concurrent courses or awarded for credit by examination (AP, IB or CLEP).
As another Texas lawmaker said:
I believe that taxpayer-funded grants should be reserved solely for legal residents of this state, said state Sen. Brian Birdwell, R-Granbury, a Tea Party conservative who serves as vice chairman of the Senate Higher Education Committee. In a time when our state budget is tightly constrained and legal residents are already paying record-high tuition rates, I think that these taxpayer dollars should be directed toward our citizens, not illegal immigrants and the incentivization of unlawful conduct.
So Texas taxpayers are paying for this, period.
Of course they are. That’s the LAW in Texas, voted by the people’s representatives in Legislature and signed by the elected Governor. Texas wants this. If they don’t want it, then Legislators will pass a law, the Governor will sign it, and it won’t be law.
If this Birdwell fellow is so gung-ho, let him pass some legislation instead of just yakity-yak. Talk is cheap.
Oh, so Perry home schooled his kids? I didn’t know that.
No, I don’t.
Perhaps I was endulging in a little fantasy.
Is Rick S. your candidate then?
That’s a pretty high standard and people who object to this had better be really careful.
As to illegal aliens or rather the US born childen of illegal aliens, it is a federal law that they are eligible for benefits, mostly food stamps and medicaid.
It’s beyond pathetic to say or imply that this is Rick Perry’s doing.
Actually most of Mexican illegals work. Statistics show that those receiving benefits do so because they work in low-paying jobs,usually manual labor and their incomes are so low they qualify for these benefits.
Home schooled kids? Nice if you have the money for the wife to stay home and do it and if you feel that your children are not getting a good education or are subjected to really bad influences.
It’s not for everyone, or very many people. I certainly didn’t do it and I doubt seriously if you did.
But Perry does support school choice and vouchers.
Actually, I’m not a die hard Santorum supporter. It’s become rather a default position at this point.
Ron Paul? (hell) No
I think my tagline expresses it about right.
I will try to defend the guy against gotcha attacks.
It’s a sad thing but I think many are in your position.
It’s the which candidate that I hate the least thing.
Unfortunately, the more you learn about Rick S., as you will in the next week or so, you may start hating him also.
I feel good that I have a candidate I respect and can support wholeheartedly.
Clearly, to get a Texas Grant you have to be a pretty decent student, plus they review the grant annually. If it works for Texas, it’s their business to take care of it.
10th Amendment, and all that.
You’re in a bad position there, Buddy.
I would be inclined to defend Santorum against gotcha stuff also, but who defended Newt?
Who defended Perry?
Who defended Palin?
Who defended Cain (well a lot of people tried but he couldn’t defend himself)
The point is, it’s gonna be up to the candidate to defend himself and do it effectively and forcefully.
Forceful is not a word I associate with Rick S. He needs to take off the Mr. Rogers sweaters and put on some boxing gloves.
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