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Beware of conservatives who see benefit in Obama's re-election
Coach is Right ^ | 1/05/2012 | Doug Book

Posted on 01/05/2012 9:16:42 AM PST by Oldpuppymax

At least one well-known conservative has begun speaking out-loud the notion that an Obama re-election might not be the very worst thing that could happen, either to the nation or to Republicans—even to REAL Republicans–that is, conservatives, members of the Party base whose mistrust of Obama is nearly equaled by their mistrust of Mitt Romney and the 2008 ‘Ghost of Romney past’, John McCain.

The best-selling author of “Looking out for Number One” and “Restoring the American Dream”, Robert Ringer has been a Libertarian/conservative for decades.

And given 5 decades of Libertarian leanings, his support of Ron Paul should surprise no one.

But just prior to the Iowa Caucus, Ringer decided that should Ron Paul run the independent, third party campaign many so fear him capable of “and it resulted in Obama’s re-election, [Ringer] would be fine with that if it keeps Romney from taking the reins of power and feeding us small doses of socialism day in and day out.” (1)

He argues that as Obama’s 2008 election gave rise to the Tea Party movement, a repeat performance in 2012 could only re-invigorate that early, contagious Tea Party spirit which Ringer has found wanting over the past year.

“Early on, I said that I preferred Obama over McCain because his Marxist agenda would finally wake up millions of apathetic Americans,” Ringer recalls of his 2008 position. (1)

“Unfortunately, the Tea Party has not kept the heat on either Obama or Congress. But if Obama is re-elected, maybe Tea Partiers will be jolted into rising up in earnest — 365 days a year — and will get serious about taking back America,” he continues. (1)

Well there is little question that Romney is hardly more than a younger version of John McCain...

(Excerpt) Read more at coachisright.com ...


TOPICS: Government; History; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: conservatives; election; johnmccain; libertarianism; libertarians; medicalmarijuana; obama; republicans; robertringer; ronpaul
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To: businessprofessor

What are you saying?

Are you saying that the man responsible of Masscare would somehow repudiate and repeal Obamacare, even though it was BASED COMPLETELY on Masscare?

The states are laboratories of democracy, and Masscare failed in the lab. Romney, however, can’t admit that for some reason and you think that somehow he’ll get the job and not waffle down on Obamacare with, “We don’t need to throw the baby out with the bath, we just need to fix the parts that don’t work.”?

I think its naive to think he’s not going to want to just grab the Oval Office, hire people to stiff arm base conservatives, and go back to work with the status quo in DC as if nothing there is permanently and irreparably broken.


41 posted on 01/05/2012 1:38:34 PM PST by RinaseaofDs (Does beheading qualify as 'breaking my back', in the Jeffersonian sense of the expression?)
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To: taxcontrol

Hey, have fun eating those principles of yours after Obozo has completely gutted our economy. People like you are what’s wrong with the political system today. You’re so into having the perfect candidate that you’re willing to lie down with dogs as opposed to accepting something less than perfection. If Reagan ran today he would not earn your vote. I have an idea. Just stay home on election day and allow the adults to make the tough decisions.


42 posted on 01/05/2012 1:40:08 PM PST by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier currently deployed in the Valley of Death, Afghanistan)
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To: businessprofessor
Romney is not my first choice but...

I love how even ardent Romneybots (not saying you am one, Prof) always include a disclaimer.

43 posted on 01/05/2012 1:42:14 PM PST by j_tull ("A little of what you fancy does you good, or so it should.")
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To: SoldierDad

Well you have fun eating that RINO meat of creeping socialism, loss of liberty and attacks on our way of life. It is people like you who want consensus and not clarity that is what is wrong with politics today.

Oh and I did vote for Reagan because he was an unashamed conservative. If you remember, Regan lost the nomination in favor of Ford and where did that get us?

It is us adults that have already served our country, raised our kids, had businesses and created jobs that are in the trenches day to day and are fighting the good fight daily and KNOW our history. “Me too” and Dem lite does not win elections. It is the conservative who motivates the base and wins elections.

So you stay home if you want to. I am going to vote and I will vote for the most conservative candidate that I can find ... if they happen to have an R by their name, great. If they don’t ... then the party that is SUPPOSED to be the conservative party can either change and become conservative or they can continue to LOSE elections.


44 posted on 01/05/2012 2:26:19 PM PST by taxcontrol
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To: taxcontrol
So you stay home if you want to. I am going to vote and I will vote for the most conservative candidate that I can find ... if they happen to have an R by their name, great. If they don’t ... then the party that is SUPPOSED to be the conservative party can either change and become conservative or they can continue to LOSE elections.

In other words, since you don't have a dog in the race you will throw a tantrum and take your toys home. The only outcome of this is four more years of THE MOST LIBERAL option available. After four more years of Obozo we'll see what is left of this country. I'm betting there won't be much of the Constitution that hasn't been shattered. It is obvious that you know nothing about Reagan. Pity!

45 posted on 01/05/2012 2:43:13 PM PST by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier currently deployed in the Valley of Death, Afghanistan)
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To: SoldierDad

Please take the time to learn your history. Ford was from the liberal wing of the Republican party but he was the establishment and LOST. McCain, another GOP establishment liberal - LOST. Bob Dole, another GOP establishment choice and LOST.

Now once again the GOP establishment is trying to shove another liberal republican (Romney) down our throats. And if that is the case, the conservative base will not turn out to support someone who does not represent them.

It is the GOP establishment selection of liberal, RINO GOP party toady strategy has a history of loss after loss. When the conservatives of the GOP defeated the establishment and put Reagan on the ticket we WON. If Regan taught us anything it is that you can not win without a motivated base.


46 posted on 01/05/2012 2:55:59 PM PST by taxcontrol
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To: taxcontrol

I do NOT require a history lesson from the likes of you. I stand by what I stated. It’s a pity that you do not know anything about Reagan.


47 posted on 01/05/2012 2:57:46 PM PST by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier currently deployed in the Valley of Death, Afghanistan)
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To: Oldpuppymax

A B O

I would vote for Joran Vandersloot over Obama at this point.


48 posted on 01/05/2012 3:01:52 PM PST by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: SoldierDad

It is a pity that you refuse to learn facts and the lessons of history.


49 posted on 01/05/2012 4:06:00 PM PST by taxcontrol
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To: Nebr FAL owner

The Libertarian party platform represents the goals of libertarians, and it is formal text that we can post and discuss.


50 posted on 01/05/2012 4:41:54 PM PST by ansel12
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