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No BCS National Championship Game This Year
town hall ^ | 1/09/12 | reasonmclucus

Posted on 01/09/2012 1:50:51 PM PST by kathsua

For the first time since the BCS held its first "national championship" game after the 1998 season, there won't be any bowl game that can realistically be portrayed as a "national championship" game.

This year's game can only be considered as giving the University of Alabama an opportunity to avenge its loss against Louisiana State University(LSU). The two schools can only play for the championship of the western division of the Southeast Conference(SEC). Alabama cannot even claim the championship of the SEC from a victory because that would require Alabama to defeat eastern division champion , the University of Georgia.

LSU cannot prove it deserves a national championship by defeating a school it has already defeated, particularly a school that mostly defeated the same schools that LSU defeated. LSU needs to defeat the champion of another conference in the championship game to prove it is the best team in the country

An Alabama victory would indicate the two schools are equal rather than that Alabama is the best because they would each have one victory over the other. A third game would be necessary to prove Alabama was the better team. In those sports in which the champion must win multiple games against the other team, the champion must win a majority of the games.

The SEC will be the big loser in the game because it will lose its undefeated record in the game regardless of which team wins. Alabama and LSU are both undefeated in the so-called championship game. One of them will lose that status.

The NCAA does allow a conference runner up to play the conference champion for the national basketball championship, but only after the challenger has defeated the other teams in its bracket to get into the championship game.

The NFL allows the runner up in a division to play the division winner in a conference championship but only after the runner up has defeated two other teams. Two teams in the same division cannot play each other in the Super Bowl. The Super Bowl participants must be from different conferences.

Those who suffer from the delusion that a computer or sports writers, etc can choose the best two teams ignore the fact that it isn't unusual for teams rated by writers or computers to lose to teams that are rated lower.

It's time for people to realize that the claim that a BCS bowl game is for a national championship is just a public relations gimmick. The only valid way to determine a national football champion is for teams to earn their way into a championship game by defeating other teams that aspire to be the national champion.

Determining a legitimate NCAA major college football champion wouldn't necessarily require extending the college football season longer than it is now with the phony BCS championship game. There would need to be a way to get the number of teams playing for the championship down to 8 for a 3-round tournament which could include some of the existing bowl games.

With the ongoing conference changes, the number of conferences could change in the next few years. Champions from smaller conferences could play qualifying games after the end of the season, possibly the same weekend some of the large conferences have their championship games. The extra game would provide money for the schools and their conferences.

The first round of the tournament could come just before Christmas or be part of the New Year's day bowl games. Having the first round on New Year's would be especially attractive for the Big 10 and Pac 12 because it would allow their champions to play in the Rose Bowl and still participate in a championship tournament.

The college bowl games aren't nearly as important as they used to be. Most of them are on cable because they don't attract sufficient advertising to be worth a bidding war among the broadcast networks like there is for the Super Bowl.

A true championship tournament could be as popular as the NCAA basketball tournament is. At the very least the schools participating in the tournament would make money for themselves and their conferences.


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I've never understood how anyone could believe that a computer or sports reporters could determine which are the two best college football teams. I guess sports reporters have their heads in the sand, or wherever, just like political reporters. The sports polls have always favored certain schools like Alabama and Oklahoma even when they have had off years. It they have a loss they will may still be rated above undefeated teams.

I think most people are so tired of bowl games by now that they don't really care about a real or phony national championship game.

1 posted on 01/09/2012 1:51:01 PM PST by kathsua
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To: kathsua

I have never been a fan of the BCS system, preferring a playoff.

On the other hand, number 1 is playing number 2. That is about as close as one could get to a national championship game.


2 posted on 01/09/2012 1:53:00 PM PST by yarddog
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To: kathsua

The whole system is a contrivance made to create an impression that the last bowl game is a genuine championship. We get it. . .its college. . .we are happy to go along with the fantasy so as to better enjoy the game. . .its just a game after all.


3 posted on 01/09/2012 1:59:20 PM PST by McBuff
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This is just sour grapes by someone who doesn't want to believe that LSU is #1 and Bama is #2, which they very clearly are.

Not a fan of BCS, but it's the best solution we've got unless you want to extend the college season into February with a bracket of 16.
4 posted on 01/09/2012 2:00:52 PM PST by Sudetenland (Anybody but Obama!!!!)
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Well there is the SEC.

And then there is .... ummmm... everyone else who is NOT the SEC.

So. Even if there were Conference play-offs - it wouldn’t be any better than Alabama vs. LSU.


5 posted on 01/09/2012 2:02:18 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS! This means liberals AND libertarians (same thing) NO LIBS!)
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To: kathsua

The SEC will be the big loser in the game because it will lose its undefeated record in the game regardless of which team wins. Alabama and LSU are both undefeated in the so-called championship game. One of them will lose that status.

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That is about the lamest most pathetic comment I’ve read in a long time.


6 posted on 01/09/2012 2:04:02 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS! This means liberals AND libertarians (same thing) NO LIBS!)
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To: kathsua

The problem with this analysis is that Alabama and LSU are easily the two best teams, by any measure. So, having a team other than Alabama in the game would also not be a legitimate national championship game under the current system, which is supposed to pit the two best teams.

The irony of this is a number of years ago, the SEC pushed hard for a 4 school playoff system; where the top 4 teams would play it out for the championship (because an undefeated Auburn had been locked out of the championship game). No other conference would even consider the SEC proposal.

What makes it doubly ironic is the SEC has won every national championship since they made the proposal for a 4 team playoff system.


7 posted on 01/09/2012 2:05:01 PM PST by Brookhaven (Mitt Romney has been consistent since he changed his mind.)
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To: kathsua
The SEC will be the big loser in the game because it will lose its undefeated record in the game regardless of which team wins. Alabama and LSU are both undefeated in the so-called championship game. One of them will lose that status.

Lol, talk about about scraping the bottom of the barrel to find something negative to say. Maybe the SEC will be able to recover from being the "big loser" after winning six straight BCS championship and the shame of having SEC teams in both spots in this year's championship game.

8 posted on 01/09/2012 2:05:13 PM PST by Will88
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I hate the BCS...and there's plenty to be critical of...especially, but certainly not only, 11-1 #6 Boise not being invited to the Sugar Bowl while 11-2 #11 Va Tech was invited. But the Championship game this year is what it should be.

That said I wish someone would drive a stake through the heart of the BCS and come up with a workable tournament!

9 posted on 01/09/2012 2:05:32 PM PST by pgkdan ("Make what Americans buy, Buy what Americans make, and sell it to the world" Perry 2012)
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To: kathsua

The BSC is nothing but corrupt fantasy FB.

They need to take the top 8 conference champions and find the real champion.

Go Ducks


10 posted on 01/09/2012 2:05:44 PM PST by bray (Ride Santorum back to Sanity)
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LSU is #1 and Bama is #2

Well...for a few more hours anyway...

11 posted on 01/09/2012 2:07:00 PM PST by 6ppc (It's torch and pitchfork time)
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To: kathsua

If Bama beats LSU tonight, then what? Since LSU already beat Bama, each could claim the BCS Championship, since each would only have one loss - to each other.


12 posted on 01/09/2012 2:07:24 PM PST by The Sons of Liberty (Psalm 109:8 Let his days be few and let another take his office. - Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
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Who do you think should be playing for the national championship?


13 posted on 01/09/2012 2:07:46 PM PST by houeto
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To: kathsua
No BCS National Championship Game This Year

Call it the BCS Global Championship Game?

14 posted on 01/09/2012 2:08:08 PM PST by Libloather (The epitome of civility.)
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To: Sudetenland
Not a fan of BCS, but it's the best solution we've got unless you want to extend the college season into February with a bracket of 16.

The NCAA FCS (Formerly NCAA Division II) just concluded a 20-team playoff... last game was on Jan 7th. The FBS (Formerly Division I) with a 2-team playoff doesn't end until Jan 9th.

15 posted on 01/09/2012 2:08:15 PM PST by So Cal Rocket (Task 1: Accomplished, Task 2: Hold them Accountable!)
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To: houeto

The bowl games have shown just how bad the other contenders’ defenses were, Bama or LSU easily scores 30+ on those teams, and easily shuts down their offenses.

Anybody who doesn’t think the best two teams are playing tonight, is crazy.


16 posted on 01/09/2012 2:09:12 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: 6ppc

LSU is #1 and Bama is #2
Well...for a few more hours anyway...

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True. Then it will be LSU as # 1 and # 2. Roll Tide will be third.

(don’t ask how that is possible.)


17 posted on 01/09/2012 2:11:22 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS! This means liberals AND libertarians (same thing) NO LIBS!)
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To: Brookhaven

A four-team playoff is perfect, it solves 90% of all of the problems with the current system. It would just be diminishing returns to include more teams.


18 posted on 01/09/2012 2:11:38 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: The Sons of Liberty

If Bama beats LSU tonight, then what?

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Then it will be a matter of percentages. By how many points did Alabama win? Total yards by both teams in both games. First downs, possession times, and stuff like that.


19 posted on 01/09/2012 2:14:08 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS! This means liberals AND libertarians (same thing) NO LIBS!)
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To: The Sons of Liberty

Exactly it solves nothing and makes the ‘every game counts’ mantra of the non playoff crowd seem ridiculous


20 posted on 01/09/2012 2:14:40 PM PST by lakewood conservative
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