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Alabama Ties Notre Dame With Most National Titles In Poll Era
TBI ^ | 1-10-2012 | Cork Gaines

Posted on 01/10/2012 7:27:09 AM PST by blam

Alabama Ties Notre Dame With Most National Titles In Poll Era

Cork Gaines
Jan. 10, 2012, 9:43 AM

If you want another reason why the poll system in college football is absurd, just try to figure out how many national championships Alabama has after winning last night's BCS Championship game. Alabama claims it is their 14th national title. But according to the NCAA, Alabama has actually been recognized with 18 titles.

The problem, of course, is that the NCAA does not have a system to determine the national champion on the field. Even with the BCS system, the NCAA still officially recognizes the champions of nine different polls and computer formulas each year (in most years, those sources are unanimous, but not always).

To simplify things, let's look at the schools with the most national titles in the poll era (1936-2011) as recognized by the so-called major polls (via Sports-Reference.com)...


(Excerpt) Read more at businessinsider.com ...


TOPICS: Sports
KEYWORDS: alabama; bcs; football; worldchampions
Roll Tide!

Alabama has a population smaller than metro Houston, Texas.

BTW, Auburn, another Alabama school, was world champs last year too.

1 posted on 01/10/2012 7:27:14 AM PST by blam
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To: blam

Alabama Fans Lined Up Immediately After The Game To Buy BCS Championship Gear

2 posted on 01/10/2012 7:31:24 AM PST by blam
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To: blam

The nine national championships for Alabama recognized in that graph have all been since 1961. Nine in 50 years.


3 posted on 01/10/2012 7:38:45 AM PST by Will88
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To: blam

When did they beat the Packers?


4 posted on 01/10/2012 7:38:46 AM PST by wrcase
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To: wrcase
"When did they beat the Packers?"

The Packers are NFL, professional...not college.

5 posted on 01/10/2012 7:45:11 AM PST by blam
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To: blam

I know, I was just gently needling you because you said they were world champions not collegiate champions. Congrats to Alabama for an excellent season.


6 posted on 01/10/2012 7:50:06 AM PST by wrcase
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To: blam; All
Major college football national championships have always been unofficial. As far as I'm concerned, it's difficult to call a team a "national champion" when it not only did not win its conference championship but also did not win its division championship within its conference. That's Alabama's predicament this year.

The major reason for the BCS business - and the insane proliferation of bowl games - is to improve the bottom lines of the athletic departments and the TV networks.

7 posted on 01/10/2012 7:51:17 AM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: blam

The BCS is a fraud and a bad product. Not worth watching.


8 posted on 01/10/2012 7:53:12 AM PST by desertfreedom765
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To: blam

Judging from interviews, the QB for Alabama comes across as a courteous and modest young man.


9 posted on 01/10/2012 7:56:23 AM PST by ConservativeStatement (Obama "acted stupidly.")
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To: blam
Best headline by far............ Darren Rovell's photo Best Bama Newspaper Headline Goes To...The Anniston Star
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10 posted on 01/10/2012 8:03:29 AM PST by BubbaJunebug
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To: wrcase; blam

When did the Tide or the Packers play anybody not based in this nation to become “world” champs? ;)


11 posted on 01/10/2012 8:04:10 AM PST by hometoroost (Frodo lives!)
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12 posted on 01/10/2012 8:04:20 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: justiceseeker93
"As far as I'm concerned, it's difficult to call a team a "national champion" when it not only did not win its conference championship but also did not win its division championship within its conference."

In 2003, Oklahoma lost the Big XII Championship game, yet still got to play in the BCS championship, much to the chagrin of the 1-loss USC Trojans that year (which probably would have been vacated due to Reggie Bush).

13 posted on 01/10/2012 8:07:49 AM PST by RabidBartender (The above statement is not meant to be offensive to women. Please don't whine and have me banned.)
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To: blam
With the lack of offense and wide kicks, I thought I was watching soccer for a while.

The most boring national championship game ever.

Unless you are a die-hard SEC fan, last night's game sucked.

14 posted on 01/10/2012 8:15:36 AM PST by bwc2221
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To: blam

Kirby Smart, the Bama D coach, credited tips he got from the New Orleans Saints defensive staff for his teams’ success in stopping the other Louisiana team. Classic.

What percentage of Bama starters actually played their high school ball in
AL? Just curious.


15 posted on 01/10/2012 8:33:38 AM PST by Leroy S. Mort
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To: blam

The BCS champion is kind of like global warming. You get a bunch of experts in the industry to proclaim that it is true and you impugn others for not agreeing. Never mind having to plan an actual tournament to determine a champion, just say it’s so.


16 posted on 01/10/2012 8:41:26 AM PST by jimmygrace
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To: blam

17 posted on 01/10/2012 8:54:36 AM PST by kabar
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To: blam
Congrats to Alabama! Integration sure worked out for ya pretty good!

The Football Game That Broke Racial Barriers: 1970 USC v. Alabama game--credited with fully integrating the SEC..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnOpZvEulvY

NOW get ready for my alma mater, USC to gather their 8th championship next season with future Heisman winner, Matt Barkley, our version of Tim Tebow at the helm.

Fight on! : )

18 posted on 01/10/2012 8:59:56 AM PST by CainConservative (Newt/Santorum 2012 with Cain, Huck, Bolton, Parker, Watts, Duncan, & Bachmann in Newt's Cabinet)
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To: blam

Arkansas should be recognized as the 1964 National Champion, not Alabama. Arkansas finished the season unbeaten, while Bama lost to Texas in their bowl game. But then the final AP Poll was taken before the bowl games.


19 posted on 01/10/2012 9:06:10 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: bwc2221

I really cannot believe Miles let Jefferson play the entire game, instead of putting Lee in, asinine!


20 posted on 01/10/2012 9:08:10 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: Leroy S. Mort

Kirby also said that he didn’t know what LSU was trying to do on offense and that it appeared that LSU didn’t know either. He seemed to be saying that LSU changed their offense for the game but did a terrible job executing the changes. It could not have helped that the LSU team set a curfew that they did not enforce. They had at least one key player out partying at all hours. That key player spent a lot of time on the ground, btw.

I asked my hubby to calculate the Bama starters from Alabama question. I’ll post when he lets me know. He is at work. It might be a while. lol Of the four players that some ESPN expert dude predicted would go in the first round of the NFL draft, 75% are from Bama. Trent Richardson would be the exception. He’s from Pensacola, which is just a step over the border.


21 posted on 01/10/2012 9:13:20 AM PST by petitfour
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To: Leroy S. Mort

31.8% of last night’s Bama starters are from out of state. Interestingly, this year’s freshman class at Bama has more out of state students than in state.


22 posted on 01/10/2012 9:26:35 AM PST by petitfour
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To: Leroy S. Mort

OK. I have to change my calculations. 7/21 starters for Bama are from Alabama. One player is listed as starting for offense and defense. So it’s 33.3% are from out of state.

For LSU, 27.27% starters are from out of state.


23 posted on 01/10/2012 9:33:58 AM PST by petitfour
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To: petitfour
7/21 starters for Bama are from Alabama. One player is listed as starting for offense and defense. So it’s 33.3% are from out of state.

If 7 of 21 starters are from Alabama, wouldn't that make 66.6% from out of state?

24 posted on 01/10/2012 9:52:16 AM PST by Leroy S. Mort
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To: dfwgator

I think Miles didn’t want to bench Jefferson in his last game. Also, Lee pretty much sucks. Alabama has eaten his lunch the past few years.

The Alabama D-line overwhelmed the LSU O-line on every play. There was nowhere to run, and Jefferson had no time in the pocket.

Bama was dominant. And I’m an LSU fan.


25 posted on 01/10/2012 9:54:44 AM PST by Retired Greyhound (.)
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To: Leroy S. Mort

Oops. 7/21 are from out of state. Brain glitch. hah


26 posted on 01/10/2012 9:54:44 AM PST by petitfour
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To: Leroy S. Mort

While we’re talkin’ numbers, if you take Alabama’s total offense and subtract Jordan Jefferson’s run/pass totals, you get 316.

Some of those starters who are from out of state have ties to Alabama. Barrett Jones’ parents attended Alabama. Donte Hightower is from TN, but he has family in Alabama.


27 posted on 01/10/2012 9:58:43 AM PST by petitfour
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To: petitfour

I’m just happy Jordan Jenkins changed his mind and decided to stay at home.


28 posted on 01/10/2012 10:13:18 AM PST by Leroy S. Mort
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To: kabar

Not sure where you got those statistics and cannot dispute the very oldest ones. But I was a student at Ohio State between 1972 and 1976, and while our class went to four straight Rose Bowls (lost 3), were undefeated by that Team Up North (3/0/1), were ranked No. 1 for most of three of those seasons, and I was a classmate of the only two time Heisman winner, we ended up the season ranked no. 1 exactly zero times. Great teams but NO national championships, zilch, nada, didn’t happen.


29 posted on 01/10/2012 10:14:46 AM PST by katana (Just my opinions)
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To: Retired Greyhound

Sometimes you have to change things up just for the heck of it, whether Lee’s past history against Bama was good or not.


30 posted on 01/10/2012 10:17:55 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: Leroy S. Mort

My husband was talking about JJenkins last night and his decision to go to UGA. I’m not really into all the recruiting craziness. Choosing the “right” college is not easy for regular students, and I can only imagine the pressure for star athletes. Hopefully, the star athletes will end up in the best place for them and will excel in the classroom as well as on the field.


31 posted on 01/10/2012 10:29:46 AM PST by petitfour
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32 posted on 01/10/2012 10:30:46 AM PST by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: dfwgator

Yeah, I mean it’s not like Lee could’ve played any worse than Jefferson.

I think, for Miles, it came down to loyalty. Dance with the one who brung ya. Not saying it was the right decision. Frankly, trying to figure out Les Miles is a fool’s errand. He’s quirky.

Besides, it was pretty clear by halftime that LSU had no chance on offense. Their best bet was going to be to shore up the defense, and hope the Honey Badger could make a big play for them.

Instead, the Bama offense kept finding ways to move the ball, and they swarmed Mathieu on his only punt return.


33 posted on 01/10/2012 10:40:49 AM PST by Retired Greyhound (.)
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To: Retired Greyhound

Must’ve been real painful watching that after seeing what Matt Flynn did against the Lions.


34 posted on 01/10/2012 10:48:03 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: CainConservative
"Congrats to Alabama! Integration sure worked out for ya pretty good! "

26% of the state is Black. Some counties in Alabama are almost 100% Black.

35 posted on 01/10/2012 10:52:26 AM PST by blam
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To: CainConservative
Congrats to Alabama! Integration sure worked out for ya pretty good!

Paying your players sure worked out for ya pretty good.

36 posted on 01/10/2012 10:55:17 AM PST by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: dfwgator

Fortunately, I’m not a die-hard LSU fan. I root for them because I have in-laws from Baton Rouge, and watching games with them growing up in Dallas was crazy fun.

Also, I thought Jessica Lange was smokin’ hot in “Everybody’s All American”, which took place at LSU.

I’m basically a superficial fan. I actually rooted for the Gators when Tebow was there. I live in LA now, so I root for USC occasionally. I didn’t go to college, so I have no alma mater. I can be flaky when it comes to college.


37 posted on 01/10/2012 11:00:46 AM PST by Retired Greyhound (.)
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To: blam

Roll Tide!

I reckon the state of Alabama should be considered a “football power”. Outsiders just don’t understand how it is here in Bama. To those that were bored, sorry. That’s just how we play down here. Steady as she goes.


38 posted on 01/10/2012 11:32:08 AM PST by Himyar
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To: ConservativeStatement
Judging from interviews, the QB for Alabama comes across as a courteous and modest young man.

That's because he's a Mobile Boy and was raised right.

39 posted on 01/10/2012 1:03:55 PM PST by numberonepal (First they came for Sarah, then they came for Herman.....)
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To: katana

I took it off of the site linked to the article. There were many polls at the time with some disagreeing with others so mythical national titles were shared. According to the stats, Oklahoma, Ohio Stare, and Alabama shared the title in 1975.


40 posted on 01/10/2012 1:17:05 PM PST by kabar
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To: kabar

IIRC, we were ranked no. 1 for almost the entire 1975 season (why not, we were undefeated and had Archie Griffin and Pete Johnson as a one-two punch in the backfield) and then got beat by UCLA in the Rose Bowl (after murdering them out in the Coliseum during the regular season) and finished 11-1. The National Championship was completely mythical back then (even more so than now with the BCS) but I don’t think we ever actually finished no. 1 in any polls that were considered “real”. But by G*d we had some really good teams!


41 posted on 01/10/2012 2:40:58 PM PST by katana (Just my opinions)
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To: blam
Notre Dame has brought the cruse of the Obambino upon itself when they had Obama speak and gave him an honorary JD. They will never win another championship again.
42 posted on 01/10/2012 2:59:53 PM PST by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: blam
Notre Dame has brought the cruse of the Obambino upon itself when they had Obama speak and gave him an honorary JD. They will never win another championship again.
43 posted on 01/10/2012 3:01:35 PM PST by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: jmaroneps37

OOPS Make that the curse of the Obamabino :-)


44 posted on 01/10/2012 3:05:33 PM PST by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: justiceseeker93

Alabama actually has 14 National Championships. You can find this years’ National Championship Trophies (i.e. AP and BCS) at Bama’s Bryant Museum.


45 posted on 01/11/2012 11:59:21 AM PST by ohioman
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To: kabar

This site is pure baloney. It counts any fly-by-night organization’s naming of a champion as the champion for a given year. For example, Notre Dame did not win the Title in 1993 and Michigan did not win the title in 1985. I could go on...


46 posted on 01/11/2012 12:03:22 PM PST by ohioman
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To: kabar
I am a huge Bama fan and I can tell you that they did not win the NC in 1975 ((I wish it were true). :)

The University's official count is 14 - the most of modern day powers. This leaves out the tons of NCs won by Yale and others before 1900.

47 posted on 01/11/2012 12:10:26 PM PST by ohioman
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To: blam

I was fortunate to witness the only head to head National championship game the 1973 Sugar Bowl.


48 posted on 01/11/2012 12:39:51 PM PST by wordsofearnest (Proper aim of giving is to put the recipient in a state where he no longer needs it. C.S. Lewis)
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To: wordsofearnest

ND Alabama


49 posted on 01/11/2012 12:44:26 PM PST by wordsofearnest (Proper aim of giving is to put the recipient in a state where he no longer needs it. C.S. Lewis)
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To: wordsofearnest

http://espn.go.com/abcsports/bcs/sugar/s/1973.html


50 posted on 01/11/2012 12:55:41 PM PST by wordsofearnest (Proper aim of giving is to put the recipient in a state where he no longer needs it. C.S. Lewis)
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