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Marines Are Always Faithful So Why Aren't We
Truth About Bills ^ | 01/14/2012 | Mark Mayberry

Posted on 01/14/2012 7:52:38 AM PST by Mark Mayberry

In the last few days’ news has broken along with a videotape of four United States Marines urinating on some dead insurgents in Afghanistan. It is a little shocking to see just how quickly the American people are to throw our own to the wolves.

People tend to act as though this is the worst thing that has ever been done by our military. Going back as far as World War Two there is evidence of routine executions of prisoners as well as torture and mutilation of dead bodies. There are even reports of American servicemen prying teeth from dead Japanese soldiers in order to harvest their gold and silver cavity fillings.

In Vietnam there was a highly decorated Special Forces unit known simply as Tiger Force. Their job was to take the fight to the heart of the enemy and instill fear within them. They did this by scalping and removing dead enemies ears and wearing them like jewelry,

None of this is excusable behavior in polite society but ladies and gentlemen, where we are sending our Marines is not civilized. Never in the history of the United States have we sent our troop to a civilized place to wage war.

Although the methods and weapons of war have changed in the last century the one thing that hasn’t changed is the mental and spiritual toll that is exacted from each man who picks up a weapon for his country. Wars are just as gruesome today as they were in the fields of Europe in the 1940’s. In fact it is more so stressful today due to the lack of uniformed soldiers to fight. These cowards dress in civilian clothes and shoot at Marines and then go and hide amongst the populace using them as a shield.

This alone will build up hate in the heart of Marines and cause them to do things not necessarily in their character. It is disheartening to see how quickly some Americans have turned on the men that provide them safety. Was it wrong? Yes it was but it is hardly the major issue it is being made out to be. After all these same terrorists desecrate their own dead, not to mention ours.

Lets turn back the clock about twenty years. The year is 1993 and Operation Restore Hope has just gone badly in the Bakara Market

district of Somalia’s capitol city of Mogadishu. Among the dead are two Delta Force snipers named Randy Shughart and Gary Gordon. These two men gave their lives protecting a downed pilot by dropping in heavily outnumbered and holding off the mob for quite some time. Their corpses were later dismembered and dragged through the streets in front of CNN cameras that captured it all.

Fast-forward about ten years to 2004. Four Blackwater security contractors were ambushed and then hung, burned and dismembered on camera. Also in the early days of the War on Terror there were numerous accounts of American civilians being kidnapped and executed via beheadings on film. The most famous of which is Daniel Pearl. This list could go on and on but in the interest of time we will just leave it at these examples.

Congressman Allen West commented on this topic recently and he also touched on these instances. He too asks where the concerns for these victims are? It is perplexing that American’s, most of whom have little knowledge of any of the events mentioned, look so judgmentally at those fighting in our place.

Congressman West left his statement with a very poignant quote. He said, “As for everyone else, unless you have been shot at by the Taliban, shut your mouth, war is hell.”

This is such a great quote because the man is right. War is hell and it is a terrible thing. What these men did is not excusable however nor is it overly punishable. The punishment suggested by Congressman West is more than adequate. Any more than that and it will become apparent these brave Marines are being sacrificed on the alter of political correctness.

The long and short of this issue is simple. These young Marines made a mistake. This mistake however doesn’t remove their honorable service to this country. These men should be dealt with and disciplined privately not publicly flogged by the nation that they fight and die to protect. No civilian is qualified to say what is right and wrong on the battlefield.

As far as I am concerned I stand by our Marines and I for one am glad to have them on our team. Poor judgment or not they still fight for me and this is what I fear we are losing sight of. It is odd that the Marine Corps motto would be so fitting but nonetheless to the Marines fighting and serving in the worst spots in the world, SEMPER FI Devil Dogs!

 

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TOPICS: Government; Military/Veterans; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; iraq; marinespissed; pee; usmc

1 posted on 01/14/2012 7:52:46 AM PST by Mark Mayberry
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To: Mark Mayberry

waste of urine....

....they should have poured pig blood on em...


2 posted on 01/14/2012 7:56:07 AM PST by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: Mark Mayberry

I’d give them a medal.


3 posted on 01/14/2012 7:58:12 AM PST by Doc Savage ("I've shot people I like a lot more,...for a lot less!" Raylan Givins)
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To: Mark Mayberry
This fellow seems to be confusing the American people with American media and politicians.

I say, "Piss on 'em".

4 posted on 01/14/2012 8:00:00 AM PST by grobdriver (Proud Member, Party Of No! No Socialism - No Fascism - Nobama - No Way!)
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To: Mark Mayberry

The outrage is ridiculous. However, the Marines knew this was against the rules. I think a hand slap is enough. Now because of the media, they will get a full Court’s Martial and will most likely be discharged from the Marine Corps. The media is insane. Of course even Fox News the conservative news channel is all over this too. Very disappointing.


5 posted on 01/14/2012 8:01:44 AM PST by napscoordinator (Vote for the conservative with the most delegates, Santorum 2012!)
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To: Mark Mayberry

MM, nice post...thank you.
Our military is being destroyed not by the enemy but by the PC politicians and the top brass who refuse to stand up for the good of the country and the force. The war in Afghanistan would be over today, the Taleeebahn marginalized out of existence if our troops would be allowed to wage war, not a PC scrum...
I pray for the families who have lost loved ones in this conflict because it is being fought with no will to win.


6 posted on 01/14/2012 8:05:40 AM PST by matginzac
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To: Mark Mayberry

There wasn’t this much outrage from the leftist commie media when those Egyptian savages were raping, beating and urinating on that female reporter. Their priorities suck as well as their reporting.

I am not surprised this happened. I say give these pansy reporters a weapon and have them go thru what these marines have to go thru day after day with savages trying their best to kill them. Let me saee them run like the yellow belly pansy metrosexual COWARDS they are.


7 posted on 01/14/2012 8:07:35 AM PST by mardi59
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To: Mark Mayberry

No better example in recent memory of how the MSM runs, and is ruining this country. “If it bleeds, it leads.”

This silly and indiscreet action makes it to the lead story for days. And we get dragged into defending the indefensible.

They choose what the battle will be and we are running breathlessly to join the fight they decide to have.

Though, I guess, it is what it is - symptomatic of the low level we have come to accept as “news.”


8 posted on 01/14/2012 8:07:50 AM PST by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever.)
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To: Vaquero

They should make the photographer public.


9 posted on 01/14/2012 8:07:50 AM PST by Big Horn (Rebuild the GOP to a conservative party)
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To: Mark Mayberry

Those who are outraged are bought and paid for slaves of the Dem party. OWS can urinate and worse on police cars with a free pass and some encouragement. I think it was a disrespectful thing they did, but those guys are the rough and ready men who have seen so much against their own brothers and sisters in combat. I agree with the wrist slap punishment.


10 posted on 01/14/2012 8:08:01 AM PST by momincombatboots (Back to West by G-d Virginia.)
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To: Mark Mayberry
Rule #1: Don't take pictures/videos of doing silly things in a war zone...
11 posted on 01/14/2012 8:08:30 AM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks Mark Mayberry.
None of this is excusable behavior in polite society but ladies and gentlemen, where we are sending our Marines is not civilized. Never in the history of the United States have we sent our troop to a civilized place to wage war.
Anyone in elective office who so much as complains about this should be turned out, and told why.


12 posted on 01/14/2012 8:09:05 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Happy Friday the 13th, everyone!)
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To: Mark Mayberry

Could Obama’s friends leaked this stuff about the Marines?


13 posted on 01/14/2012 8:11:39 AM PST by FreedBird (p)
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To: Mark Mayberry

Hey guys. In regards to the punishment of these Marines. I want to get a push together for everyone to write their Senator and Congressman if these Marines end up in a general Court Marshal.


14 posted on 01/14/2012 8:15:53 AM PST by Mark Mayberry
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To: Mark Mayberry

It’s the media and Liberal Left Wing Politicians who pander to the liberal crowd hating the military.


15 posted on 01/14/2012 8:21:00 AM PST by SkyDancer ("If You Want To Learn To Love Better, You Should Start With A Friend Who You Hate")
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To: Mark Mayberry

“The long and short of this issue is simple. These young Marines made a mistake”

Here’s where the writer runs off the bridge head first.

These young marines made no “mistake”.

They did to the enemy what comes naturally in time of war.

The dead insurgents would have gleefully cut off the heads of the marines if they had had that opportunity. I will go further. The insurgents would have gleefully cut off the heads of the marines’ wives and children if they had had that opportunity, too.

I say “P— on ‘em and laugh”.

I do not condemn these marines.
I _cheer_ their actions.

If we wish to defeat Islam — and I do not say to accommodate it, to reason with it, to appease it, but to DEFEAT it, wholly and totally — this is what we must do. That is, totally humiliate and crush this oppressive evil in our world.

This is the reality of what faces us.

What would they do to us, given the opportunity?
P— on ‘em!


16 posted on 01/14/2012 8:26:57 AM PST by Road Glide
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17 posted on 01/14/2012 8:28:59 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: Mark Mayberry

NJP Office hours, 15 days extra duty and get on with the job at hand. There should be no cameras allowed when your taking a piss.


18 posted on 01/14/2012 8:29:17 AM PST by anchorclankor (From the main part of Missouri)
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To: Mark Mayberry

Heard some jerk Marine who said he’d been in the sandbox, and a somewhat less strident Spec Ops guy along with him, defending the public “outrage” on Hannity’s radio show the other day. The one joker kept repeating “we’re better than that, we’re better than they are” and other such platitudes.

Well, if we were better than they are we’d be winning the war, and would have won all the wars we’ve consistently lost since WWII. Any little rag-tag group of uncivilized unsophisticates, armed with who knows what in some little Third World Hell Hole, seems to be able to defeat these kinder, gentler troops we’re turning out.

This nonsense, and the trial of the Marines currently underway, makes a clear distinction between the few real warriors we have left and the squeamish nation builders who run the show for us now. Give me Attila and his Huns and their tactics any day if we’re going to fight the War on Terror. Otherwise, let’s just stay home and feel good about ourselves.


19 posted on 01/14/2012 8:30:22 AM PST by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: Mark Mayberry

NJP Office hours, 15 days extra duty and get on with the job at hand. There should be no cameras allowed when your taking a piss.


20 posted on 01/14/2012 8:30:36 AM PST by anchorclankor (From the main part of Missouri)
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To: Mark Mayberry

My admiration for the Marines is second to none. The moment this story broke I was telling everyone I knew it was a crock and it would be proven to be nothing but a pack of lies. And when this story first broke Laura Ingraham jumped on the bandwagon denouncing these Marines.


21 posted on 01/14/2012 9:30:24 AM PST by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: grobdriver

“This fellow seems to be confusing the American people with American media and politicians.

“I say, “Piss on ‘em”.

I fully agree with you. You beat me to it.

I also say “piss on them and much, much more”…ending with the decapitation of the bodies along with cutting off hands, legs, and noses.


22 posted on 01/14/2012 9:46:11 AM PST by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer) (Y)
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To: matginzac

“”Our military is being destroyed not by the enemy but by the PC politicians””

Heck - make that “our military AND our country are being destroyed by our enemies and the PC politicians.” Ironic that we pay their salaries so they can help our enemies out, isn’t it? Remember Hillary saying years ago something about the barbarians at the gate? She helped to open the door and invited them in.

We have to get over the notion that our representatives are interested in us. None of them have been for a very long time now.


23 posted on 01/14/2012 9:50:08 AM PST by Thank You Rush
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To: Mark Mayberry

We spend a lot of effort considioning our warriors to be warriors, then folks spew “outrage” when they act like warriors. God Bless out military and especially those Marines!


24 posted on 01/14/2012 10:04:33 AM PST by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: MVV

I wonder who the traitor SOB was, who took the picture of the Marines, and released it for publication.


25 posted on 01/14/2012 10:45:31 AM PST by mickie (My grandson made it, he's now a Marine.)
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To: Mark Mayberry

Apologize to a culture that routinely mutilates its enemies bodies and receives religious approval to do so?

No way. As usual the media are a bunch of hypocrites.


26 posted on 01/14/2012 12:00:31 PM PST by dervish (female candidates: the last frontier)
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To: Road Glide
The dead insurgents would have gleefully cut off the heads of the marines if they had had that opportunity. I will go further.

The terrorist scum routinely "butt-rapes" captives, both male and female.

I can only guess that the reason our press-titutes aren't outraged over it is that they're in to that sort of thing.

27 posted on 01/14/2012 12:08:49 PM PST by Grizzled Bear (No More RINOS!)
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To: Thank You Rush

Boy, I get it and there are days when I really feel they are stone deaf to the people...
but my congressman is a true conservative and very accessible to his constituents so he does listen...
but he’s just one man of many and, as a republic, we have to allow for the fact that so many of our fellow citizens are freakin’ bozos so they elect bozos to congress...
very frustrating but can’t see any other way...


28 posted on 01/14/2012 5:07:00 PM PST by matginzac
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