Skip to comments.Romney??? Not Now, Not Ever!
Posted on 01/17/2012 7:03:55 PM PST by little jeremiah
If the Republican Party wants my vote, the percentage likelihood of hard-core, pro-life, pro-gun, pro-family, anti-gummint judicial nominees and nominees to important cabinet and bureaucratic posts had better be like Ivory Soap: 99 44/100% pure. You can settle for trash like Romney in defense of materialistic interests. I will not cooperate with further sellouts by the money, money, money crowd in the GOP who think it is perfectly OK to use every tactic in the book including multiple faux candidacies to dilute the vote and mountains of ill-gotten money to buy endorsements and votes and getting STDs from the lamestream media Marxists to get them to tout the inevitability of a candidate utterly devoid of any principles whatsoever.
When guns are grabbed in America, it should be by Demonrats and not by Vichy "Republicans" who are just as disdainful of Middle America as Obozo.
When babies are slaughtered in America (more than a million per year) it will not be because I voted for some quisling like Romney to get a mythical (Mittical?) 25% chance that Mittwit will stop the accommodationist surrender monkey (to everything leftist) habits of his lifetime as an elitist wimp who cares about NOTHING but money, money, money (his, not your money, unless you are his fellow elitist spaghetti spine or my money). The Demonrats can get the credit for extending the American Holocaust. Quisling Republicans have already contributed too much by appointing the likes of William Brennan, Potter Stewart, Herod Blackmun, Warren Burger, Lewis Powell, Swish Souter, Sandra Day O'Connor, Sandra Day O'Kennedy and so many other disgraces to SCOTUS and an infinite variety of rank social revolutionary elitist trash to the lower courts and to many bureaucratic positions as well. Dubya made a verrrry good start by cutting the establishmentarian trash of the American Bar Association out of the loop as to judicial appointments. ABA is no better than lamestream media. Let the Demonrats kill the babies if they MUST be killed.
When there are TARP bills after TARP bills to save those "too big to fail" and screw the rest of us because soulless investment bankers and corporate raiders and privileged job destroyers are just soooooo much more important than ANYTHING ELSE in our society, when they shovel another $16 trillion in printed inflationary funny money from the Federal Reserve to their elitist and brainless soulmates in the European Union and its bankrupt socialist satrapies lest the value of their autopilot investments be disrupted or jeopardized in any way, then it should be Demonrats who wreak such destruction on our nation.
When the gummint lays waste to the institution of the family by making "committed" rump-ranging the alleged equivalent of actual marriage with all of the tax perks and insurance perks that have been traditional to actual marriage, by handing innocent children over to be adopted by Adam and Steve for whatever purposes they may have, and do so at the expense of normal Americans whether the "benefits" are extended by government itself or government edict or by the moral spinelessness and cowardice of private corporations run by Mittwit surrender-alikes, it should be Demonrats who are the marriage destroyers if marriage simply MUST be destroyed.
When the nation itself is utterly bankrupted (as opposed to the pampered, privileged and protected members of the Mittwit's social set), leaving Mittens to reassure the nation that, as to his finances, "I'm all right, Jack!" as though we worried about the likes of the Mittwit, it should be the Demonrats who destroy the nation's finances. After all, they have worked sooooo hard to earn the credit for national bankruptcy.
You may wish to settle for any old trash at all as a POTUS candidate so long as there is an R beside the candidate's name. Good luck! You won't be doing it with my vote any more. I am a conservative. I am a Catholic. I am no longer a Republican as a self-identification. If Mittwit is nominated, I don't care if he chooses someone morally superior (almost inevitable) like Attila the Hun as a running mate, he does NOT get my vote. Nor will any Vichy Republican ever get my vote again.
I have spent nearly my entire adult life discouraging and disparaging third party enthusiasms by conservatives. I apologize to them for that error.
There is absolutely NO REASON for any sane person to believe that the Mittwit will ever nominate conservative SCOTUS or inferior court judges. NONE!!!
When the GOP has gone the way of its money-grubbing Federalist (Hamilton) and Whig (Clay) predecessors (a cyclical inevitability in American politics), the shell can be used to rebuild a populist GOP (Reagan) or to replace it with an entirely new party.
I am inclined to the second of these alternatives since such a party can be built to EXCLUDE the albatrosses of Wall Street who have been a permanent drag on the GOP's and America's fortunes (no pun intended). We can take the Reagan legacy from the GOP and build on it.
A new party shorn of the GOP's sorry baggage of being viewed as the party of privilege can attract a coalition of the sort of people who:
a) fight our wars and man our police departments;
b) drive our ambulances and provide medical/nursing care;
c) volunteer and challenge gummint excesses;
d) attend our churches and love God;
e) create and run the small family-owned businesses that are the backbone of the American economy and the employers of many in such a coalition;
f) are the volunteers of de Tocqueville's Democracy in America;
g) spend significant time and resources on the moral upbringing of their children and grandchildren.
That coalition, shorn of racial baggage and mythology, can actually attract:
1) black and Hispanic working people of modest means but of great religious principle;
2) every gun owner in America;
3) every voter ardently devoted to family values and disgusted with baby-killing and with Adam and Steve;
4) every parent enraged at the propaganda shoveled at his or her beloved kids in the name of gummint or even private education by leftist edjumakators typically at taxpayer expense (fisting, anyone?);
5) every NASCAR and other automobile enthusiast;
6) every sports fan who burns for absolute victory rather than indeterminate outcomes;
7) every person (parent or otherwise) who actually cares about genuine education and the life of the mind and despises empty propaganda posing as gummint edjumakashun;
8) every American absolutely disgusted and enraged with the all too obvious agenda-driven lamestream media liars who seek to manipulate the GOP into surrendering on any actually important issue and the nation into becoming a wasteland of socialist dreck without God or guns or babies or real families;
9) every American who yearns for the restoration of a self-sufficient America which makes things with the hands of private sector workers and American machinery and which pay decent wages and benefits for a decent day's hard work;
10) every plain spoken and plain living American who is passionately dedicated to what was once the normal expectation of upward mobility in exchange for real effort that, taken together, is the American Dream.
Put your statistics where the sun shineth not. ANY deviation from responsibility by ANY squishball spineless "Republican" on matters of appointing actually social conservatives WITHOUT EXCEPTION to SCOTUS, to inferior courts, and to relevant positions of government responsibility is simply UNACCEPTABLE.
Rule or ruin! Let the GOP rue the day that the GOP thinks those who were formerly its social conservatives are not deadly serious. If the GOP actually wants to win, dump Romney NOW or else. Then the GOP can win with a decent and utterly socially conservative candidate or, if that candidate should lose to Obozo (quite unlikely) at least live to fight another day. If not, not! That is the brainless investment bankers' choice! It is up to them. If they make the wrong and stubborn decision and are then financially destroyed, I won't lose sleep. Politically speaking, I want a divorce from these pathetic creatures.
If you are into statistics, if statistics are your god, then come up with this statistic: what percentage of social conservatives defecting from the Mittwit will guarantee his defeat as the GOP nominee in November? Rule or ruin!
Serious, sane and sensible men either marry the "hot waitress...in Vegas" (who won't be that hot forever) if she proves to be reliable wife and mother material or marries the somewhat less glamorous but likely much more reliable lady who will be his worthy wife and mother from his hometown or circle of close acquaintances (or even his church!) and stays faithful to her and his family. She may not be a relentless customer of Victoria's Secret or Frederick's of Hollywood, but she will be with him through the bad times as well as through the good if he has chosen wisely.
Thank you for letting me post this, BlackElk.
In before “but than means another four years of Obama”.
It’s not like we haven’t been warning them for years.
How in the HELL did the GOP as a collective not learn from McCain?
This shouldn’t even be an issue?! How can we (them, IMHO) be this stupid?
It literally turns my stomach how the MSM/LSM has chosen a liberal democrat for the republican candidate and the weak-minded sheeple go along.
And how can people like Huntsman turn against us?
If milt is on the ballet then I can’t hold my nose — I just have to throw up since I will have no choice, D or R.
If a rabid dog was running against Obama, I would vote for the rabies infected dog and so should you.
If a rabid dog was running against Obama, I would vote for the rabies infected dog and so should you.
I might vote for the rabies infected dog but I would never vote for the Mittwit. The dog MIGHT be principled which is something of which no rational human being will ever accuse the Mittwit. Let the polo players and trust fund babies and Junior Leaguers and Percival Q. Snobbingtons try to elect the privileged and two-faced Mittwit in November. By then, he will be road kill.
Nor would many others here vote for the Mittwit who is no better than Obozo in white face. I held my nose and voted (only after they were nominated) for Nixon in 1968 and 1972, Ford in 1976, GHW (New World Order) Bush in 1988 and 1992, Dole in `1996, and McCain in 2008. Every one of them was a despicable excuse for a Republican and every time the rationalization forced upon us was that the Demonrat candidate was sooooo much worse and that the republic would surely cease to exist if the Demonrat were elected.
Net result: progressive chronic wasting disease has gutted the GOP (Boehner, McConnell, Cornyn, LAMAR!!!, Corker and a legion of other whores who pose as Republicans in public but have their lips on autosmooch for the backsides of every enemy our movement, our party and our country have ever had) except under Ronald Reagan and, to a lesser extent, under Dubya. No more. I am too seasoned at this point to vote for another unprincipled leftist in GOP drag. McCain retired the trophy and Mittwit will not get my vote. Nominate him at your peril. There are plenty of us who are determined never to vote for him. Third party? Maybe. Refuse to vote for POTUS? Maybe. Romney. Absolutely NEVER.
This rant is BlackElk’s, I just posted it with his permission. He says it all much better than I could. From this thread:
Romney Used Polls to Determine His 1994 Abortion Position
LifeSiteNews ^ | 1/13/12 | Ben Johnson
At least someone actually knows what Mitt actually stands for: Mitt’s MONEY.
Couldn’t agree with you more.
>>In before but than means another four years of Obama.<<
I just don’t have the heart for that argument any more. Choosing between Satan and The Devil is no choice. And I don;t see 3rd Party as a way out.
Leaving the USA (which I can probably do since my employer is worldwide and I can do my work from anywhere) for someplace that still enjoys freedom, like Belize (?), may be all that is left for me.
Huntsman’s endorsement put a sword in my heart and a lance in my side.
It’s clear that the elites who want to run everything have entirely taken over the Dem party 100% and are the majority of the Repubs. Speaking of the professionals. The ordinary people who usually vote R are now rebelling. The elitist want either a fascist corporatocracy with social liberalism (Rs) and the other elitists want a communistic “social justice” dictatorship - Dems.
What a choice. It’s getting to the “nothing more to lose” time.
Exactly. and well put.
Mr. Jeremiah, you ain’t little no moh.
This year I’d settle for any of the 80%ers - Newt, Lil Rick Santorum or Western Rick Perry.
Romney mouths some conservative themes his consultants have told him to say. He has no idea why. He just wants to be POTUS.
He does not qualify for my vote.
I’m with you guys, no Romney EVER!
>>What a choice. Its getting to the nothing more to lose time.<<
I wish that is where we were.
It seems we are at “everything to lose” time.
I firmly believe it is Democrats who are tilting the polling results to say that “most” Republicans favor Romney. There is simply too much knowledge about his liberalism among conservatives for him to be the “frontrunner,” but I suppose I could be underestimating the intelligence and awareness of Republican voters.
Romney is being lifted up by the Left, period. Voter fraud in the primaries is happening, and voter fraud in the general election is a certainty.
We are so screwed.
This is BlackElk speaking, I just liked it so much I made it into a vanity and am posting a few more of his comments. I asked his permission first. He said it all much better than I can.
From this thread:
Romney Used Polls to Determine His 1994 Abortion Position
LifeSiteNews ^ | 1/13/12 | Ben Johnson
I don’t believe the polls.
And how can people like Huntsman turn against us?
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Freedumb, you are smart enough to know why Hunstman came out in favor of Mitt.
He has allegiances that are stronger than politics and has taken oaths that he still holds to.
I also think he is hoping for a cabinet position from Romney or maybe even a VP slot.
Every one of them was a despicable excuse for a Republican and every time the rationalization forced upon us was that the Demonrat candidate was sooooo much worse and that the republic would surely cease to exist if the Demonrat were elected.
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And that is exactly why the GOP has kept moving to the left. We keep throwing moderates and they keep throwing up further lefties and everyone moves to the left.
NO MORE! I wouldn’t vote for Mitt if you held a gun to my head.
I didn’t write it!! Black Elk did, I put his name as the author and asked his permission to make a vanity of his rant.
I can’t write or think that well!!!
....We are so screwed.”
I haven’t given up yet. But it does look kinda bleak.
Here’s another BlackElk rant from yet another thread, he’s on a ROLL:
Not Mittwit. Not paleoPaulie. Not now, not EVER. If the GOP does not want four more years of Obozo, it had da*n well better see to it that neither of those two are nominated for ANYTHING. How many social conservatives refusing to vote for the Mittwit are necessary to defeat him? Nominate him and you will find out. People can vote for the lower offices and, if there are good candidates, they should. No conservative should vote for Mittwit or Paul no matter who the opposition may be. They are both useless and would both destroy the GOP brand.
Make the Mittwit and Paul poster boys for how mountains of money and corrupt snuggling up to the lame stream media will not make any old phony POTUS as a Republican. I have voted Republican in each and every POTUS election since and including 1968. I will hold my nose no more forever. McCain was the very last imbecile in GOP clothing for whom I would vote.
If you actually believe that the GOP Congressional caucuses under corrupt and spineless quislings like Boehner and McConnell are going to do anything to restrain their soulmate Romney, then a lot of people here will want some of what you are smoking.
The “leaders” destroyed the credibility of the Tea Party freshmen by buying and bullying them into supporting a $2.4 trillion increase in the debt limit and therefore in Obozo’s election year allowance as Santa Claus. Now he is back looking for more only six months later. Even my fine veteran Congressman voted for that insanity last year. He is demanding that Congress be brought back into session in the House to pass a resolution telling Obozo: NO! to his demand for another $trillion +. My Congressman will be disappointed by the whore in the Speaker’s chair. What else is new?
Personally, I am not interested in would’a, could’a, should’a. I am verrrry interested in seeking the destruction of each and every rotten, corrupt GOP SOB and cowardly quisling and special interest marionette responsible for the Mittwit if he is nominated. Paul won’t be nominated but, if he were, likewise.
I was a Reagan state chairman when he challenged Ford. We will build a Reaganite majority when we build a disciplined strike force of Republican actual conservatives, unbought, unbossed and not ever paid for. We will train youth and old folks who have time on their hands. We will train in ideology and in nuts and bolts of organization. Like Scarlett O’Hara digging in the turnip patch, just before intermission, we will never put up with this year’s kind of crap again. Let us understand what it means to be partisans and act accordingly. Rule or ruin! Now and forever.
No matter what the outcome will be after the GOP Convention is the “GOP” as we have known it...
Read Obama will try to unionized our military next term. Defiance, to be meaningful, now means Third Party, or a well orchestrated write-in ballot. I am able to cast a write-in. Or,.......we can count on Ron Paul to run Third Party, if he doesn’t achieve a brokered convention.
BlackElk let me copy his rant for this vanity, and I’ve copied a few more. He is on a ROLL today. He says everything about exactly why Romney and RINOS are DEATH for America.
JimRob, I think you would like what Black Elk says on this thread.
It’s not over, there are more of US than of THEM, and we still have the First and Second Amendments more or less intact.
Courage and fighting spirit are what is needed. It is NOT over.
Watch a meeting of the RNC and take a look at the blue blood country clubbers and their creepy pulled back wives.
You will have your answer.
I kid ya not. Just this minute, I received an email in my Yahoo account (promptly sent to the Spam folder by Yahoo) from a “Mrs Bridget Romney” titled: “Beloved (view attachment for more details)”.
No, I haven’t viewed the presumably virus carrying .rtf attachment, as is my habit.
Thanks for posting that - BE you are dead on.
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Pinging both lists to a most excellent piece written by BlackElk, with a few other of his comments copied in the thread. He describes excatly why we must have a CONSERVATIVE to vote for in the upcoming election; and why voting for an "R" who is NOT conservative is worse than nothing at all. Never give up!
It’s like “do you want the bullet in the right temple or the left temple?” Both choices are quite fatal and thus highly undesirable. Hopefully folks will start coming to their senses soon, or this will be an unmitigated disaster for our nation, and we will likely suck most of the world down the toilet with us.
“Romney??? Not Now, Not Ever!”
If romney should win I will write in Palin and buy a better scope for my rifle.
“We will build a Reaganite majority when we build a disciplined strike force of Republican actual conservatives, unbought, unbossed and not ever paid for. We will train youth and old folks who have time on their hands. We will train in ideology and in nuts and bolts of organization.”
BlackElk for President!!!
Here’s another gem from Black Elk, I can’t stop myself from copying them, this is so excellent:
From this thread:
If the GOP does not want to cause mass defections of pro-life conservatives, pro-family conservatives, interventionist conservatives, pro-gun conservatives, anti-bailout conservatives, Tea Party conservatives, then the bozos who run the GOP had better find a way to dump the Mittwit once and for all. It is not my ambition to be an enabler of the trust fund American community any longer. McCain was the last straw.
AND a replacement party will be no joy to the Ron Paul surrender mongers, conspiracy theorists, earmarkers, and two-faced phonies who CLAIM to be pro-life and pro-family but whose records show them to be bald-faced liars. We are quite unlikely to adopt Paul’s strange brew of McGovern’s peacecreepism, and the desire of GOP money obsessives to be nice to our enemies, kiss their backsides, genuflect before them and make the world safe for “free trade” which means destroying American jobs for people not born to the class of the Romneys so as to increase those protected corporate dividends and capital gains while destroying the lives of ordinary Americans. “Just learn to be an investment banker” after we send your factory job to Bangladesh (where the anti-American investment bankers pay their wage slaves 7 cents an hour and no benefits: oooooh, yummy profits) is not a prescription for economic recovery for our country.
We may not have Sarah Palin as our nominee (although it would be a very good idea) but I, for one, am not going to put up with voting for the Mittwit, a man with neither a heart nor a brain nor a soul. If this country simply MUST be ruined, it will be ruined by Demonrats and the plutocrats can pay for it. Posing as Republicans, they want to surrender to the Demonrats on every issue that counts. They need to be punished too and Obozo will take care of that. Sarah or no Sarah, we WILL have red meat and we will NOT have an elitist GOP POTUS too cowardly to bash Obozo as he needs to be bashed.
Alternatively the trust fund babies who are in bed with the lamestream media to tout the “inevitability” of the Mittwit with the LSM salivating over how Mittwit will be absolute roadkill in November and in any debate with even Obozo and will probably prevent a GOP takeover of the Senate and restore Pelosi’s rule as Speaker of the House.
Does any actual conservative shiv a git what Muffy down at the Junior League and Skipper at the Snobbington Polo Club think should be our nominee. They would share a nervous breakdown in front of their leftist and equally brainless pals if once again, the GOP has nominated a pro-baby, pro-family, pro-gun, military interventionist, etc., social conservative. They would be sooooo humiliated. And a good thing, too. It is about time they realized that the GOP is not and long has not been the party of their legendary great, great, great-grandaddy Ebenezer Q. Pennypincher and his Unitarian soulmates down at the Abolition Club and, if it tries to be, then it will be destroyed like the Whigs and Federalists before it.
It is purely up to the spoiled and privileged and their paid political lackeys like Tokyo Rove to get off this despicable drive to nominate Romney by mountains of money and connivance with the LSM for shameless propaganda’s sake. If they don’t, he, they and the GOP (and maybe the nation) will be destroyed this November. Conservatives and other patriots will then go back to the drawing board and do to the elitist establishmentarian spaghetti spines what Aaron Burr did to Hamilton (figuratively speaking), what Jefferson did to the Federalist money obsessive ancestors of the Romneybots and Andrew Jackson and others did to the Whig money obsessive ancestors of the Romneybots. Note that Mr. Newt favorably cited Andrew Jackson in last night’s Fox Debate.
AND, you have the gilt-edged nerve in support of the spineless and brainless spoiled child of privilege Mittwit to call Antoninus stupid??? I don’t think anyone planning to defect (as I certainly will if he is nominated) from Romney on actually conservative grounds will EVER have anything whatever to do with the social issue dishonesty and foreign policy of Ron Paul or with anything involved with Alan Simpson, an enthusiastic supporter of baby-killing when serving in the Senate. The alternative is voting for Senate, Governor, Congress and state legislature, for conservative positions on ballot questions and letting the Mittwit swing by the neck in the wind for lack of votes. The other alternative is for the GOP to man up and dump the Mittwit.
Mitt Romney, devoid of brain, spine and heart is the personal embodiment of the Cowardly Lion, the Tin Man and the Scarecrow in Wizard of Oz. We don’t need to be responsible for putting this worthless putz in the White House. He is also a soulless cannibal trying to feed off the GOP carcass. It is said that Reagan got a lot of votes because he was the one candidate whom you would gladly have as a dinner or barbeque guest, that he had many qualities that made you as comfortable with him as you were with the guy next to you at work, and no resemblance to the boss who fired you. Romney is the anti-Reagan in all of those respects and he has never had a shred of actual principle in his entire worthless life.
How many votes of social conservatives being withheld from Romney will render him toast. Care to find out the hard way? Nominate the Mittwit and you will.
Thank you, I will watch it tomorrow. She is great.
BlackElk has always been a great FReeper; but these posts are absolutely outstanding.
Hall of Fame material.
BlackElk, I don’t post very often. However, this post, whether a vanity or not, hit a nerve for me. I am having a great deal of difficulty swallowing CONSERVATIVES voting for Romney. Supposedly a majority of this country is conservative, more fool me, as I can’t tell that from the voting.
As a conservative, I want a conservative revival - I can’t even define what Romney stands for, not a single thing! And I am supposed to vote for him?
I am ashamed and angry at Republicans for the lead Romney has received in voting so far. I am scared, worried and defiant, all at the same time.
How can I support the continued takeover of our lives by a massive increase in federal power and largess - by holding my nose and voting for Romney? Like hell.
Like little jeremiah, I already tried that for the last 5 elections. Look where that got us.
Thank you for the posts. Know that it hit me where it hurts.
Rick - out in Idaho.
Black Elk wrote the vanity! I wasn’t clear enough - I can’t express myself that well. I asked him if I could make that comment into a vanity!
I’m just carrying the message.
Yes, I agree and I would vote for him in a second.
Romney says whatever is convenient at the time.
The party over principle voters have no moral values.
I believe in voting pragmatically to a point, but abortion is a line I will not and can not cross and I have heard Mitt with my own ears.
Good luck with all that GOP.
4 more years of Obama is not my fault.
It's the fault of those with no morals.
The GOP is not quite dead to me yet, but it is on life support and I will pull the plug if Mitt gets the nod.
No Romney. Not Now, Not Ever!
With due respect to both of you, Romney is bad, but he’s not like Satan or even as bad as President Obama. I respect those who won’t vote for Mitt if he’s the nominee, but I also respect those who are determined to vote for him to stop Obama. Let’s hope none of us are faced with that horrible choice. As little jeremiah wrote, “What a choice.”
I disagree with the statement that elites are the majority of the Republicans. The elites are a very small minority who hold positions of power in industry, the media, and government. They can try to sell him, but they don’t make up the 25% of Republicans who back Romney. They don’t have the power or numbers to nominate him without rank and file voters.
Romney backers are always asking if conservatives will support Mitt if he’s the nominee. More importantly, are they going to back our guy when Mitt loses?
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