Skip to comments.The American Mafia Isn't A Patriotic Bunch
Posted on 01/22/2012 12:11:37 PM PST by AtlasStalled
Tough guy John Gotti wasn't going to fight America's war in Vietnam.
The late Gambino mob boss was just a young hood when drafted in 1963, and after failing to appear for induction the draft dodger was found two years later as reported by Danny Fenster for Tickle The Wire: "Gotti told authorities he was unaware of the draft status. He reported to the selective service board the next day, but was never inducted into the armed forces due to his criminal record."
Of course, mobsters never have been a patriotic bunch.
For example, in 1945 Genovese mobster Paul "Lefty" Della Universita "arranged a heist from a lower Manhattan dock of morphine pills that were supposed to be sent to wounded soldiers overseas" as reported by Susannah Cahalan for the New York Post.
Although mob boss Vito Genovese seemingly answered the call of duty during World War II by acting as a guide and translator for U.S. Army officials in Italy he exploited the opportunity by stealing American food supplies for re-sale on the black market from which he "made a fortune" as reported by Tim Newark for American Mafia.
Stealing pain killers for wounded soldiers? Stealing the food out of their mouths? Is there no level to which these degenerate mobsters will not stoop?
The willingness of the Mafia to put profit ahead of country continues to make it a security threat in the United States particularly given its influence at some ports of entry as reported by The Associated Press: "'I don't believe the old idea that they're loyal Americans,' said Joseph King, who teaches classes on terrorism and organized crime at New York's John Jay College. 'They're in business, they don't care what it is, they're looking for money.'"
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Simply not true. These guys never heard of Michael Corleone?
BS. That’s all I have to say.
Because I actually have real family experience with the issue, I can tell you every one of my “family” served in the military.
This article is bunk.
Whatever one says about the Italian/American mob they are moral giants compared to the Mexican drug cartels.
Many years ago I was sent to Fort Drum as an evaluator for National Guard Armor units out of NY and NJ. One battalion was called the mafia batallion because of its membership. Thehy were outstanding and had much better equipment than the others.
We also had a Puerto Rican batallion.
History is full of units made up of rogues and even segregated ethnic minorities of a nation/empire. If properly treated and lead they can be outstanding soldiers. Think French Foreign Legion, Devil’s Brigade, US Paratroops of WW2, 442 RCT (all Japanese American), numerous all black battalions of WW2, Gurkhas, East African Rifles, Jordanian Legion, Sikhs, Moroccan Legion, etc, etc, etc.
During the early volunteer US Army, we had to take in substandard recruits. Motivation and morale was marginal.
The Puerto Rican NG was the exception. Everyone in PR wanted a chance to be in the US NG because of prestige and pay. PR back in the 1970’s was pretty poor compared to today. Being an officer in the PRNG helped those who want to enter politics back then. If PR became a nation the NG unit would be its national army.
Must disagree with some of my fellow posters. There is nothng patriotic about peddling illegal drugs, robberies, loansharking, shooting people, etc. It is unpatriotic to the max. Regardless of mlitary service.
And I’m not speaking in the abstract, grew up across the street from a social club run by a crime family.
Horse pizzle. “Socks” Lonza cooperated with the U.S government on the New York docks BEFORE getting the OK from Lucky Luciano. He did so despite being under investigation or indictment, and without asking anything in return. His son served in the Army.
Sammy “The Bull” Gravano served in the U.S Army.
Lucky Luciano helped secure the entire New York waterfront from sabotage and espionage for the U. S Navy, got Italian and Sicilian immigrants to help “fill in the map” for the invasion of Sicily, and sent word ahead to the Sicilian Mafia to help the Allies. Did he get anything out of the deal? Yes, he did. Does it mean he didn’t love America? He’s buried in Queens.
According to him Mafia/Cosa Nostra was pretty tight with OSS and later with CIA regarding Cuba.
According to me the guy was a slug with or without family ties but I had no reason to doubt him on that subject.
Of course the mafia is not patriotic, they are anti-American scum, their religion is crime, they are anti-everything good and decent, they are evil.
They are murderous, cowardly, scum. They are no better than any punk thug out their. They are no good and cannot be considered as anything other than criminals. Nothing more
To hell also with ANYONE who admires and defends La Cosa Nostra, and a big hooray for the FBI for destroying them over the last three decades.
That’s only because Mussolini was the only Italian politician to successfully squelch the mob. Once he was overthrown, the allies put mafia-allied pols in power, a move which retarded southern Italy’s economic and political progress for 45 years. Bravo Paolo Borsallino for bringing that almost to an end, and paying with his life for it.
Of course not. Gangsters and the fans of their Hollywood productions tend to lean toward favoring themselves against our USA first, then other nations of their ethnic preferences.
Some quotes from the words of George Washington:
“Why, by interweaving our destiny with that of any part of Europe, entangle our peace and prosperity in the toils of European ambition, rivalship, interest, humor or caprice?”
“Nothing is more essential, than that permanent, inveterate antipathies against particular Nations, and passionate attachments for others, should be excluded...The Nation, which indulges towards another an habitual hatred, or an habitual fondness, is in some degree a slave. It is a slave to its animosity or to its affection, either of which is sufficient to lead it astray from its duty and its interest.”
The defining answer would be to the following question. Do they (any ethnic group) conduct themselves as Americans, favoring other Americans as much as their own group, or do they identify more as a foreign association of people against other Americans in politics, business, academia or other activities?
Not an Italian but part of the American Mob...Meyer Lansky suppossedly helped Lucky Luciano negotiate the deal with the US Navy to secure the docks during WW2...and also helped put weapons into Israel during the war of 1948. I guess it depends on the Mobster.....Some made Millions of ration stamps in WW2(Carlo Gambino) some avoided it.
If people are interested in the fascinating history of a politician who is a mob enabler, read Daxton Brown’s book on Harry Reid (aka Mr. Cleanface). It’s called “Harry: Money Mob And Influence”
Thanks AtlasStalled. OTOH, if FDR had just taken out a contract on Hitler back in 1938...
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