Use those dollars instead of wire.
Posted on 01/24/2012 9:55:20 AM PST by Kartographer
One of the most common questions that I am asked from prospective survival medics is “What antibiotics should I stockpile and how do I use them?” There isn’t a 60 second answer to this. Actually, there isn’t a 60 MINUTE answer to this, but anyone that is interested in preserving the health of their loved ones in a collapse will have to learn what antibiotics will work in a particular situation.
It’s important to start off by saying that you will not want to indiscriminately use antibiotics for every minor ailment that comes along. In a collapse, the medic is also a quartermaster of sorts; you will want to wisely dispense that limited and, yes, precious supply of life-saving drugs.
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I’ve seen Dr bones’s write up. I’m still in the process of research at this stage. Confirming storagability and then which to procure for emergency storage. Thanks, methinks I’ll be reading a lot of the good dr bones articles in the upcoming days.
Key words for acquiring the stuff -
aquarium meds
there is no separate factory, or dosages, of antibiotics for fish.
No, no! I wasn't implying that. I just want to be sure of my purchases' storage and longevity requirements so that I can plan properly for those requirements. I am comfortable with the knowledge that Fish-mox for example is not going to cause me to grow gills ;P I just have to be comfortable and knowledgeable in what I'm getting into as far as these items go - particularly since I've nearly achieved my interium food storage goals and am now looking at first aid/medical additions.
Yep, lots of sources out there. Just wanting to confirm storage requirments and shelf life expectancy. Planning on isolating part of the refrigerator if necessary for long term storage, but would like better info.
thx for the link.
I think the aquarium stuff I have amounts to doxycycline. I’m not ambitious enough at this moment to dig it out!
;-)
B F L
BTW, never order prescription medications from a 'Canadian', 'Mexican', or 'Indian' source. Acquire stocks from the fish and vet U.S. suppliers for reliability and quality.
BTW, a good rule of thumb for antibiotics is five to eight years of efficacy if sealed packages are opened to the air and then capped/stored (as in a thousand count jug opened and scripts filled from it), and eight to fifteen years if the packages remain factory sealed ... for capsules and pressed tablets. Subtract three to five years from minimums if the medications are in a transport liquid (liquid dosings). If one stores powdered forms of antibiotics for mixing later, a good means to deliver the powders is a warm water (three parts) and honey (one part) carrier; mix only what would be used up in two weeks (14 days), and prepare the entire liquid mix before combining with the proper measurement of antibiotic for that volume of dosing.
I’m pretty much in agreement re: the tetracycline stuff. I know if I open a sealed pac of vet tetracycline, there is a certain consistency and color to it, and as long as it holds those that tells me it has not been exposed to excessive heat or moisture.
And even if a person was suspicious about it, I’m not sure I would throw it away! It could still be dissolved in water and used topically. It could be dissolved in water and used as a mouth rinse in the case of toothaches, etc. as long as the person was careful to gargle good with fresh water and spit it out after.
It’s common sense, really.
I know I asked at the Farm supply about liquid Penicillin. They said it was good long after the expiration date BUT!!! IF IT TURNS YELLOW, PITCH IT!!
And these people know. I mean they use the stuff on multi-million dollar race horses, prize bovine breeding stock, and even though doctors and pharma experts uniformly say that we get too much antibiotic residue from eating things like chicken, that residue IS NOT CONTAMINATED, it’s NOT POISONOUS, so there ya go!
Sounds like good advice - thanks...
What’s the scoop on topical antibiotics?? (Ointments and liquid/spray??)
Dr Bones said that the extended shelf life only applies to PILL FORM.
Liquid form of antibiotic should not be used past its expiration date, according to the Dr.
Also, folks need to look into getting a liquid silver generator. I’ve used LS for sinus infections. It’s great for cuts, etc, to keep from getting infected. Not sure about taking it internally, but it’s supposed to be effective, topically, on almost every known infection agent.
The Doctor can say what he wants, I’m just telling you what the people at the farm supply store told me.
And as far as a silver generator goes, 3 9V batteries, a couple feet of wire, two .999 Fine Silver American Eagles, a gallon of distilled water, and you can make silver solution till the cows come home!
I don’t think the use of antibiotics is the problem. It’s the MIS-USE of antibiotics that are the problem.
Not taking them long enough to wipe out the infection, which leaves the most hearty and resistant ones alive and the infection comes back harder to knock out, and maybe requires a tougher drug to kill.
Or prescribing antibiotics for an illness that is not caused by bacteria.
And not providing probiotics (good bacteria) while on antibiotics, to replenish good gut flora that’s knocked out by the medicine. Early with antibiotics docs gave probiotics to patients because they knew the drug hit good and bad bacteria. Now they don’t.
Too long a topic to air on this thread. BUT, I reccommend using Coconut Oil for topical salves. Coconut oil is a semi-solid at normal room temps and refrigerated, it is a thick base. The great thing about coconut oil is the anti-fungal nature of it naturally. If one has Crisco that is ‘clean’, it can be added to coconut oil to form a thicker salve. Ideally, if you could store Cetaphil lotion (cetal alcohol; at normal room temps, cetal alcohol is a semi-solid) and use it as a carrier for topical preps, I reccommend that, too. Good old vaseline is also a means to transport antibiotics topically, but know this, the vaseline thickness will inhibit transfer of the antibiotic into the wound and tend to keep the medicine more on the surface.
Yes, it's simple, but it's one of those things that not everyone knows...
Remind me not to take silver eagles from you in trade. :)
I do all of my own minor first aid, and usually with next to nothing.
Minor cuts and abrasions:
Wash it GOOD with Ivory soap and warm water
Pat dry with a clean towel, then let air dry
A good triple anti-biotic cream like Neosporin
Band aid!
You might then want to take 1000mg Vit C and a zinc supplement, mileage may vary...
Use those dollars instead of wire.
Another very good thing to know is that most fungi CANNOT TOLERATE, even for the shortest time, exposure to an alkaline environment.
Here in the Pacific Northwest it’s very humid and cool, and alot of the curcurbit vegetables will die from various fungi and mildews.
Either baking soda or potassium bicarbonate dissolved in water, abt a tbsp per two quarts water, knocks the fungus dead in it’s tracks.
Same goes for human skin. Same goes for common thrush (yeast infection in the mouth/on the tongue).
Gargle with a baking soda solution.
Yes.
Our (when TSHTF) chef designate and myself have tested the whole milk listed below from Wal-Mart and found it to be excellent. I recommend it:
Nido: Instant Whole Dry Milk, 3.52 Lbs (Nestle)
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