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Antibiotics And Their Use in Collapse Medicine(tm), Part 1
Doom and Bloom.net ^ | 11/28/11 | Dr. Bones

Posted on 01/24/2012 9:55:20 AM PST by Kartographer

One of the most common questions that I am asked from prospective survival medics is “What antibiotics should I stockpile and how do I use them?” There isn’t a 60 second answer to this. Actually, there isn’t a 60 MINUTE answer to this, but anyone that is interested in preserving the health of their loved ones in a collapse will have to learn what antibiotics will work in a particular situation.

It’s important to start off by saying that you will not want to indiscriminately use antibiotics for every minor ailment that comes along. In a collapse, the medic is also a quartermaster of sorts; you will want to wisely dispense that limited and, yes, precious supply of life-saving drugs.

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TOPICS: Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: antibiotics; emergencyfirstaid; emergencyprep; firstaid; getreadyhereitcomes; medicine; preparedness; prepperping; preppers; selfreliance; survival; survivalmedicine; survivalping
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To: djf
I brush my teeth alternately with baking soda, then use the leftover to make a solution for gargling ... and do not rinse or drink water for a minute or two. Once a week I rinse the mouth with a 23 H2O to 1 clorox solution.

I have a cousin who had problems with jock itch recurring. He was going through tubes of miconazole weekly. The baking soda (two tablespoons) in warm water (one quart) at the end of his showers ended his problems after three showers. He uses that once a week now and has no recurring jock itch.

One item not listed by these advisors is permethrin, from a vet supply. Mites and scabbies will eventually be a problem in a post meltdown world. Making up a spray solution (never use around kitties) to treat bedding and seating locations will be useful. Crisco and clorox (a 15 to one water to clorox solution) are an old time athlete's foot remedy from my grandfather. He would treat his feet then put on white socks before going to bed. Cures nail fungus, too.

41 posted on 01/24/2012 1:38:48 PM PST by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: MHGinTN

Thanks for the tips and info. I’ll probably spend parts of the next two weeks doing further study, look at supply levels and mixes for my family based upon my assessment of our needs and requirements.

I’m looking to keep it as simple as possible and will be sticking to factory sealed tablets/capsules.

Big question I’m working through is will a darkened, storage space in my house work, refrigerate or even freezer for optimum shelf life?


42 posted on 01/24/2012 1:43:06 PM PST by Godzilla (3/7/77)
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To: Godzilla
02 and sunlight degrade medications. Store in a cool dry place with as much air out as possible. No need to refrigerate for long term storage. A few bottles of hydrogen peroxide are useful, too. excellent wound cleanser. Dilute a tablespoon full in pint and a half of filtered water to make an good mouthwash, plax fighter.
43 posted on 01/24/2012 1:48:40 PM PST by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: blam

How many gallons of milk will a 3.52 lb can provide?


44 posted on 01/24/2012 1:56:39 PM PST by Godzilla (3/7/77)
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To: MHGinTN
02 and sunlight degrade medications. Store in a cool dry place with as much air out as possible.

OK, sounds like storing in a sealabel container with either 02 sorbers or 02 displaced by dry ice would be the ticket eh?

I'll keep hydrogen peroxide in mind too as I'm looking for antibiotics for external application as well.

45 posted on 01/24/2012 1:59:19 PM PST by Godzilla (3/7/77)
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To: blam

I trried it and didn’t taste good at all. I wonder if I got a bad can?


46 posted on 01/24/2012 2:17:59 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer
"I trried it and didn’t taste good at all. I wonder if I got a bad can?"

I don't know.

I and a woman who cooks all the time tried it out...it's the best tasting powdered milk I've ever tried. I had her test it after my experience and she said the same, good. So, I bought 12 cans and put it in storage for when TSHTF.

Previously, (before I discovered this stuff) I had been buying Carnation Instant non-fat Dry Milk for possible cooking use by other people because I sure didn't like it. Anyway, It may just be a matter of taste.

47 posted on 01/24/2012 2:32:04 PM PST by blam
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To: Godzilla
"I trried it and didn’t taste good at all. I wonder if I got a bad can? "

I'm not sure...8-12 gallons?

48 posted on 01/24/2012 2:35:12 PM PST by blam
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To: Godzilla
Sorry. I got the last post a little mixed up.

"How many gallons of milk will a 3.52 lb can provide?"

I'm not sure---8-12 gallons?

49 posted on 01/24/2012 2:37:17 PM PST by blam
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To: Godzilla
I use ammo cans with a couple of dessicant packets and that's all you need. The cans seal air tight because of a rubber ring and the dessicant removes any moisture wicked or otherwise. No need to go to the trouble of CO2.
50 posted on 01/24/2012 2:38:29 PM PST by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: blam

You know what? I have probably 15 pounds of non-fat dry milk in storage with O2 absorbers, mostly if I need it for cooking, as I rarely drink whole milk.

But one thing I found if you want to drink it:
Go to the store and buy a jar of like the Carnation instant coffee creamer. Mix up your powdered milk and add about a tablespoon of the coffee creamer and shake well.

Makes it much, much more palatable and a lot closer to the taste/texture of whole milk. And you can store the non-dairy creamer powder for like forever!


51 posted on 01/24/2012 2:54:18 PM PST by djf (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2801220/posts)
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To: blam
I'm not sure---8-12 gallons?

Thanks, I found a wallyworld near by with it in stock and will trundle over and check it out for sure. One of the things I'm investigating on powdered milk is its cost in relation to regular milk for cost savings and replacement of regular milk. The non fat powdered milk in the smaller boxes (makes 2 gallons) is more expensive. So my challenge is to find something reasonably priced, tastes ok so that I can cycle it out of my storage when it comes time and not waste it.

52 posted on 01/24/2012 3:07:36 PM PST by Godzilla (3/7/77)
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To: MHGinTN

OK, I’ll look into ammo cans at the local army/navy store.


53 posted on 01/24/2012 3:09:07 PM PST by Godzilla (3/7/77)
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To: djf
Good solid advice on the sodium bicarbonate. To further the natural type solutions I'd add that my bug out kit contains: The nascent iodine could be used in an IV in a pinch, but the Lugors is good for oral and topical use. A nebulizer can come in handy (if you have current) when there are no anti-biotics. You can directly breath isotonic solutions of iodine, baking soda, peroxide, or magnesium chloride to rid yourself of respiratory infections.
54 posted on 01/24/2012 3:41:42 PM PST by numberonepal (First they came for Sarah, then they came for Herman.....)
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To: MHGinTN

Simply put, the baking soda killed the jock fungus. You might want to reconsider the clorox rinse, however. You’d do much better to brush with baking soda/peroxide or baking soda/magnesium chloride every day or at least gargle with hydrogen peroxide. I’d say the peroxide is tougher on pathogens and fungus than the clorox.


55 posted on 01/24/2012 3:47:38 PM PST by numberonepal (First they came for Sarah, then they came for Herman.....)
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To: Kartographer
Some suggestions to improve flavor.
Mix up night before & let sit 8hrs in fridge
Aerate, pour between containers
56 posted on 01/24/2012 3:51:19 PM PST by Cold Heart
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To: numberonepal

In addition to iodine tincture, I also have a couple quarts of veterinary iodine 7% solution. This is the same stuff used to make sure animal scrapes or cuts are disinfected. Also used on cow’s teats, that sort of thing.
Good general purpose topical antiseptic.


57 posted on 01/24/2012 4:00:09 PM PST by djf (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2801220/posts)
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To: American in Israel

These OTC antibiotics are marked mostly for fish. How do you properly use them with humans?


58 posted on 01/24/2012 4:58:02 PM PST by tbw2
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To: MrB

If you buy fish antibiotics, how do you find out how to dose them for people? And are fish antibiotics even safe to give to people?


59 posted on 01/24/2012 5:03:38 PM PST by tbw2
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To: tbw2

The fish antibiotics are the same as given to humans. What you need to understand is the PDR (Physicians Desk Reference) amount per kilogram of body weight. When you see a medicine (Keflex for instance) in 250 milligram and 500 milligram amounts for a fish tank, that is the exact same amount used for the average adult based upon what is being treated. Buy the fish fixes and you have the human medicine, then the PDR tells you how often to take that dose. The PDR will also help you to see that there are no other additives in the human doses that are not in the fish dosing and vice versa.


60 posted on 01/24/2012 5:21:53 PM PST by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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