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Rasmussen: Newt Pulling Away Nationally
Reaganite Republican ^ | January 24, 2012 | Reaganite Republican

Posted on 01/24/2012 12:05:31 PM PST by Reaganite Republican

Gingrich 35%    Romney 28    Santorum 16    Paul 10 

Well, that happened quite a bit quicker than I expected- Newt out 7 points on Mittens nationally.  If you missed it, Gallup already had the Former House Speaker hypothetically in a statistical dead-heat with Obama, too... maybe he's 'electable' after all, eh.

And another thing you hear from the other side is stuff about Newt’s considerable ego and ‘megalomaniac’, etc.

Well, consider this: the ball is REALLY teed up for any who’d like to be a conservative hero of all time… think about it. The opportunity is right there, and NOW: Newt said he’s going to institute a Reagan-Laffer-Kemp agenda… right?

Pulling the country out of the steep descent of the bizarre and destructive Obama era could make Newt the man of history his ego has long craved… and he’s surely smart enough to smell the opportunity. He's actually so strident in his conservative rhetoric, you could say he's pretty much painted himself into a corner.

That shining city on a hill is a pretty powerful motivator for him to stick to his Reaganite platform… the ego is far from a negative imho, now that he’s so obviously matured: on the contrary, could drive him on to success... and this one knows just how to do it.

If Newt Gingrich has wandered in his thinking out loud, so be it- I don’t think there’s any gain for him personally in morphing to RINO in office… think about it that way. His economic agenda was enthusiastically endorsed by Art Laffer- that ought to count for something.

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1 posted on 01/24/2012 12:05:41 PM PST by Reaganite Republican
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To: Reaganite Republican

If Newt wins Florida, the Rinocrat Party is going to have kittens.


2 posted on 01/24/2012 12:08:29 PM PST by Grunthor (I don't vote for Democrats, this includes Mitt Romney.)
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To: Reaganite Republican

Hold on, I have heard over and over how Rasmussen was a shill for the Establishment/Romney/Media/Obama/ etc.

How can Rasmussen suddenly now be telling the truth?

;-) (Not directed at you, Reaganite!)


3 posted on 01/24/2012 12:09:22 PM PST by Recovering_Democrat
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To: Grunthor
If Newt wins Florida, the Rinocrat Party is going to have kittens.

I really REALLY hope that happens. I can't wait to see what the kittens and mittens will attempt to do then, and they WILL attempt something dastardly and underhandedly.
4 posted on 01/24/2012 12:12:55 PM PST by ZX12R (FUBO GTFO 2012 !)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

Really funny you mention that, RD

I felt Rasmussen was in bed with the Drudge-Coulter-Krauthammer axis... but unlike the rest, seems tethered to reality by the undeniable numbers his polls are presenting


5 posted on 01/24/2012 12:19:06 PM PST by Reaganite Republican
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To: Reaganite Republican

Drudge Report doesn’t find this newsworthy. FL poll either.


6 posted on 01/24/2012 12:19:22 PM PST by KansasGirl (GO NEWT!)
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To: Reaganite Republican

I would never have believed it. I wondered why he was wasting his money and torturing himself by running, especially in the beginning.

Today, at work, I talked to 2 women, one a Republican and the other a Democrat. They both watched the debate and they both thought Gingrich won and that Romney was a Jackass. The Democrat was upset that it was all about personal things and not what they’d do if they were elected to improve our country.


7 posted on 01/24/2012 12:21:36 PM PST by tiki
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To: Reaganite Republican

8 posted on 01/24/2012 12:23:59 PM PST by houeto
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To: Reaganite Republican

Newt is going viral AHEAD of Florida. Heh.


9 posted on 01/24/2012 12:26:00 PM PST by TADSLOS (Gingrich-Palin FTW!)
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To: TADSLOS

This is great stuff...reminds me of 94 all over again.

But now the GOP-E will get really mad and bring Daniels into the race...

bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa


10 posted on 01/24/2012 12:28:24 PM PST by rbmillerjr (Conservative Economic and National Security Commentary: econus.blogspot.com)
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To: houeto

I like West. He might be a good VP for Newt. He might even be a great VP for Newt.


11 posted on 01/24/2012 12:29:34 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: ZX12R
I can't wait to see what the kittens and mittens will attempt to do then, and they WILL attempt something dastardly and underhandedly.

I fear that the RINO establishment will execute a scorched earth policy, where they would destroy the party's chances in the general election rather than risk losing power. Their philosophy may be "Better to reign the GOP under Obama, than serve under Newt".


12 posted on 01/24/2012 12:33:19 PM PST by KarlInOhio (Herman Cain: possibly the escapee most dangerous to the Democrats since Frederick Douglass.)
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To: rbmillerjr
But now the GOP-E will get really mad and bring Daniels into the race...

Let 'em go for it and watch the Tea Party rebellion boil over.

13 posted on 01/24/2012 12:33:30 PM PST by TADSLOS (Gingrich-Palin FTW!)
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To: trisham
West stumbled on a few issues early on, but he might be trying to right himself now........We'll see.
14 posted on 01/24/2012 12:34:39 PM PST by The Cajun (Palin, Free Republic, Mark Levin, Newt, Rush, Hannity......Nuff said.)
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To: houeto

Gingrich/West. What a ticket!


15 posted on 01/24/2012 12:37:57 PM PST by albie
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To: Reaganite Republican
Posted elsewhere on FR is Jay Nordlinger's blow-by-blow reaction to the Tampa debate, and it seems fair and unbiased, unlike the supposedly "fair and balanced" bias being aired on TV.

This national poll may reflect a similar reaction.

Surely, the State that sent Rubio to the Senate, West to the House, and Scott to the Governor's Office, how could the voters consider a man who, when presented the opportunity to tell what he had done on behalf of the "conservative" movement, offered up an explanation that he had a family and worked, with a few more mentions of himself?

Brian Williams and NBC set it up for Romney by banning applause, knowing full well that applause lines would go to Gingrich, which, in turn, would show him to be the more exciting candidate.

Williams also set Romney up for a possible great finish by encouraging him to provide his interpretation of "conservatism" by explaining what he had done on its behalf.

In America, over the past few decades, there are shining examples of business leaders who, perceiving threats to free enterprise principles by their government, made bold efforts to warn their fellow citizens and to "conserve" (preserve) founding principles.

For instance, one such business leader in Illinois named James R. Evans wrote a book of warning way back in the 80's. Another business leader in North Carolina, W. D. Stedman, spent years investing dollars and efforts in a free enterprise education program and related national programs intended to "preserve" (conserve) the ideas of liberty, including books, radio messages, speeches, etc. As part of that program he used excerpts from the Evans book, as follows:

"1. Does this legislation or idea increase, or decrease, individual freedom and creativity?

"2. Does this legislation or idea increase, or decrease, the power of some citizens over other citizens?

"3. Does this legislation or idea recognize that the persons who will exercise the power are themselves imperfect human beings?

"4. Does this legislation or idea recognize that government is incapable of creating wealth?

"5. Does this legislation or idea authorize taking from some what belongs to them, and giving it to others to whom it does not belong?
If 'thou shalt not steal' is a valid commandment, can we assume that it is meant to apply only to individuals and not to government (which is made up of individuals), even if those persons in power pass laws which sanction such redistribution of the wealth of others?'

"6. Does this legislation or idea encourage, or discourage, the very highest level of morality and responsibility from the individual?
. . .when government makes actions 'legal' by some citizens at the expense of other citizens, the result may be behavior which would not be considered possible by individuals acting alone.

"7. Does this legislation or idea propose that the 'government' do something which the individual cannot do without committing a crime?"**

**7 principles drawn from James R. Evans book, "America's Choice: Twilight's Last Gleaming or Dawn's Early Light" and reprinted in a Stedman Corporation (Asheboro, NC) booklet entitled "I'm Only One, What Can I Do?" Many others, across this nation, have made similar efforts in what is called the effort for "conservatism."

Now, the question is:

What was Mitt Romney doing on behalf of "conservatism" as a young business leader, and in the intervening years?

Just participating in the benefits of free enterprise does not qualify as an answer to how you've worked to preserve it!

16 posted on 01/24/2012 12:38:44 PM PST by loveliberty2
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To: Reaganite Republican

I was originally supporting Sarah, and was very disappointed when she dropped out. But I thought, ok, trust God. Now I’m thinking that things may have worked out for the best.

Newt is an unrivalled spokesman for conservatism, with a track record of legislative accomplishment. If he has put his relationship issues behind him, it’s hard to imagine a better candidate.


17 posted on 01/24/2012 12:41:53 PM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: Reaganite Republican

I have never cared for or trusted the Ginch. I still don’t. Unfortunately, too many of the brainwashed masses sit up for the boney scraps the elite Establishment throws to us. The conservative hopefuls, such as Cain, Bachmann and Perry, are not allowed in the kitchen at all! Not even on Free Republic!

So much for those who settle for what will not serve us well.


18 posted on 01/24/2012 12:41:53 PM PST by Paperdoll (On the cutting edge)
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To: The Cajun

Yes, he’s had a learning curve, but it can’t be easy making the transition from career military to politics. I wasn’t terribly keen on him in the beginning, but I’ve seen some growth and promise there lately.


19 posted on 01/24/2012 12:43:30 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Recovering_Democrat
Hold on, I have heard over and over how Rasmussen was a shill for the Establishment/Romney/Media/Obama/ etc. How can Rasmussen suddenly now be telling the truth?

After doing pretty well for a few cycles, Rass was a bit too heavily Dem weighted in recent ones. Also, it's one thing to push polls to make news, it's entirely another thing altogether to put your reputation on the line to predict actual outcomes.

That is, as long as the campaign was mostly a theoretical exercise, the wording and weighting can be tweaked to produce a desired result. As votes are getting ready to be cast, however, a pollster needing to keep his credibility needs to show something relatively close to the truth.

20 posted on 01/24/2012 12:45:39 PM PST by kevkrom (Note to self: proofread, then post. It's better that way.)
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To: Grunthor

“If Newt wins Florida, the Rinocrat Party is going to have kittens”

Your not kidding. They are going nuts over the new Rasmussin national poll increase and still talking about South C.


21 posted on 01/24/2012 12:47:59 PM PST by duckman (Go Newt...)
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To: Reaganite Republican

LOL. Okay, maybe it WAS directed at you.

Lotsa tinfoil hats here. :)


22 posted on 01/24/2012 12:48:14 PM PST by Recovering_Democrat
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To: tiki

—I would never have believed it. I wondered why he was wasting his money and torturing himself by running, especially in the beginning.—

I figured he was motivated by increased speaking fees or the vice-presidency. I thought he had no chance.

Then again, I’ve never seen a primary season like this. My guess is that the internet has changed everything.


23 posted on 01/24/2012 12:49:21 PM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: KarlInOhio

Poor RHINO kittens, they lost their Mittens and didn’t know what to do....


24 posted on 01/24/2012 12:49:56 PM PST by marsh2
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To: Reaganite Republican

I really really wish a more conservative candidate than Newt was piling up wins right now, but I do have to admit a certain competitive pleasure in seeing Willard and the blue-bloods get some schooling.


25 posted on 01/24/2012 12:52:20 PM PST by lurk
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To: Recovering_Democrat
Hold on, I have heard over and over how Rasmussen was a shill for the Establishment/Romney/Media/Obama/ etc.

Scott Rasmussen is an essentially honest pollster, and I personally hold him in high regard. His questions may occasionally favor one candidate over another: "which of these options is most electable" rather than "which of these options do you personally prefer", but he doesn't do anything worse than those rather benign wording bias issues. Note: These results do not mean that it's over and Newt has won. We are VERY far from that point. All the polls mean (and Rasmussen's are done honestly) is that we now have a race with two electable candidates. Those who support Newt have to stay involved until it's over. Those who prefer Romney (i.e., RINOs) have a good chance to win by continuing to work for Romney in every state. It's all about delegates, and that is a long, hard national campaign. [And Santorum fans, he's not out of it yet, but he has to prove himself in Florida or he might as well drop out.]

26 posted on 01/24/2012 1:01:19 PM PST by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: loveliberty2
Brian Williams and NBC set it up for Romney by banning applause, . . .

So what do I care that Brian Williams wants? Brian's bum is kickable. Had I been there, I would have applauded and encouraged others to do the same. My life is not ruled by some dumb newstwit who couldn't graduate from college.
27 posted on 01/24/2012 1:01:35 PM PST by righttackle44 (I may not be much, but I raised a United States Marine)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

My suspicion is that, in much the same way as any person can instinctively detect the difference between fine art and crap, or between a great song and crap, the people can tell the difference between a true American and a globalist, money-driven sociopath pretending to be one.


28 posted on 01/24/2012 1:06:39 PM PST by ez (When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail.)
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To: KarlInOhio
I fear that the RINO establishment will execute a scorched earth policy, where they would destroy the party's chances in the general election rather than risk losing power. Their philosophy may be "Better to reign the GOP under Obama, than serve under Newt".

Could be, that's why I said it would be very interesting. This time though, I think conservatives, tea partiers, grass roots citizen activists in general (which are more active than ever in my lifetime) good republicans, and some independents, have them over a barrel. The GOP is now nothing without them. If they go scorched earth, something more powerful might rise from the ashes, and their cushy gig is up. They won't want that either. Quite the horns of a dilemma for them this time around. My hope is that they will choose wisely and take the horn that recognizes that control by the rino establishment is over, and get on board for what needs done to save our republic, and the GOP becomes a true conservative party.
29 posted on 01/24/2012 1:08:33 PM PST by ZX12R (FUBO GTFO 2012 !)
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To: Grunthor

If Newt wins FL, Jeb Bush might leave the state in protest!


30 posted on 01/24/2012 1:11:32 PM PST by Theodore R. (I'll still vote for Santorum in the unlikely event he is still on the April 3 ballot.)
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To: Reaganite Republican

Is the Republican Party trying to encourage the formation of a third party, positioning itself in the middle between the socialist Democrats and the Conservatives? They are well on their way.


31 posted on 01/24/2012 1:23:59 PM PST by ez (When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail.)
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To: Reaganite Republican

Is the Republican Party trying to encourage the formation of a third party, positioning itself in the middle between the socialist Democrats and the Conservatives? They are well on their way.


32 posted on 01/24/2012 1:24:10 PM PST by ez (When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail.)
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To: Reaganite Republican

Is the Republican Party trying to encourage the formation of a third party, positioning itself in the middle between the socialist Democrats and the Conservatives? They are well on their way.


33 posted on 01/24/2012 1:24:19 PM PST by ez (When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail.)
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To: ez

Sorry...who knew the space bar would cause Post to hit two extra times?


34 posted on 01/24/2012 1:25:22 PM PST by ez (When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail.)
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To: Reaganite Republican

Wait until the major market “couch with Pelosi” ads hit the airwaves this week. We’ll see what his poll numbers are like after that. I am amazed that so many people do not remember that unforgivable act.


35 posted on 01/24/2012 1:26:58 PM PST by Codeflier (Bush, Clinton, Bush, Obama - 4 democrat presidents in a row and counting...)
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To: KarlInOhio
AWESOME!!!

Thanks for the "good cheer"!

36 posted on 01/24/2012 1:28:04 PM PST by milagro (There is no peace in appeasement.)
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To: albie
Gingrich/West. What a ticket!

In spite of my serious reservations about Gingrich, I'd vote for that ticket in a heartbeat. I only wish West was running for the top spot.

37 posted on 01/24/2012 1:28:44 PM PST by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: KarlInOhio

They are getting close to ‘scorched earth’ on Newt already imho... it’s sad

Born and raised Ohio boy here Karl


38 posted on 01/24/2012 1:30:30 PM PST by Reaganite Republican
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To: ez
The Republican Party is divided between its leadership and its rank-and-file voters. They have little in common and far different agendas. We don't need a third party: we need an opposition party.
39 posted on 01/24/2012 1:31:05 PM PST by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

It’s not the internet. The internet has been there for four cycles. It’s the fact that the country has run off the cliff.


40 posted on 01/24/2012 1:32:31 PM PST by ichabod1 (Mr. Gingrich)
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To: Pollster1

Nevertheless, Romley has not won ANYTHING. Not Iowa, not NH, not SC. It’s getting to that point that he HAS to win Florida, or it’s going to be very close to too late for him. I hope it doesn’t make him feel too bad.


41 posted on 01/24/2012 1:34:37 PM PST by ichabod1 (Mr. Gingrich)
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To: Grunthor
The anti's who have harped on Newt's negatives have been thinking like democrat media whores--they seem to ignore that a robust and effective campaign has one purpose, which is to change those preferences. And he has nine months in which to do it.

Independents, the bugaboo of the establishment republicans, were not shy about swinging right in 2010. They responded to a strong message and sent a wave of candidates to office who campaigned on generally conservative ideas. No reason to think Newt is going to "scare them off" now, when obama has become even more deranged and dangerous.

I expect he will win Florida, and I expect the ruling class to go totally bananas. It should be a delight to watch.

42 posted on 01/24/2012 1:37:34 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Paperdoll
They WERE allowed in--but you know what they say about being able to "take the heat"!

Newt's gotten plenty of heat--but he gives back better than what he gets.

THAT is what our country needs right now. And that is what our "firebrand" founder of FreeRepublic has figured out, and what his forum is now fully focused on!

43 posted on 01/24/2012 1:37:50 PM PST by milagro (There is no peace in appeasement.)
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To: Recovering_Democrat
Hold on, I have heard over and over how Rasmussen was a shill for the Establishment/Romney/Media/Obama/ etc.

Must mean Newt has a much larger lead
44 posted on 01/24/2012 2:20:58 PM PST by uncbob
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To: Grunthor

Agree, but Rush nailed this yesterday. Newt can’t make the whole campaign about running against the media: he has to start expounding and explaining CONSERVATISM and, yes, repudiating some of his nuttier ideas such as global warming.
But if he keeps the focus on Obama, the world is his oyster.


45 posted on 01/24/2012 2:21:48 PM PST by LS
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To: houeto
Now, THAT is a ticket.

BTW, here in OH I just heard a Newt ad about the "second Republican Revolution" and it was excellent. Upbeat, prosperity, etc.

46 posted on 01/24/2012 2:23:31 PM PST by LS
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To: houeto

I love to see a Gingrich/West ticket. The LTC would get the military vote higher than ever. Watching him debate biden would be priceless.


47 posted on 01/24/2012 2:38:26 PM PST by Arrowhead1952 (Dear God, thanks for the rain, but please let it rain more in Texas. Amen.)
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To: LS
Now, THAT is a ticket.

It would shut the mouths of a few rascists, not many, but some.

48 posted on 01/24/2012 3:04:57 PM PST by houeto
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To: Arrowhead1952
Watching him debate biden would be priceless.

Actually, it might be hilarious!

49 posted on 01/24/2012 3:05:23 PM PST by houeto
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To: albie

Newt is great but he’s not ‘safe.’

He needs a steady, reliable VP who has no negatives. One who will balance the ticket. I wouldn’t go West or even Palin.


50 posted on 01/24/2012 3:23:24 PM PST by altura
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