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What they did, and didn't, talk about at the NFATCA public meeting at the SHOT Show.
Sipsey Street Irregulars ^ | 24 January, 2012 | Mike Vanderboegh

Posted on 01/25/2012 6:06:05 AM PST by marktwain

Whispers of ATF snitches and U.S. vs. Clark.

"Hot topics."

During the NFATCA meeting, it was disclosed that the ATF, as of last week, has changed its opinion regarding the proper procedure for deactivating a barrel for importation. Previously, ATF issued a letter stating that drilling three holes into the barrel was sufficient. While destroying the functionality of the barrel, it allowed for the barrel to be used in a dummy-gun for a collector, who basically desired a non-functioning replica of a particular firearm. ATF has now announced that it is requiring any such imported barrel to be torch cut in three locations.

Also, ATF has now stated that after having the Department of Justice (DOJ), Office of Legal Counsel (OLC) review 18 U.S.C. § 922, it has been decided by OLC that a manufacture may stockpile as many post-86 machineguns as that manufacturer sees fit; however, only the manufacturer may manufacture the post-86 machinegun. What this means, is that it is no longer acceptable or legal, even if the manufacturer has a variance approving the following, for one manufacturer to manufacture the receiver, register the receiver on a Form 2, and then transfer the receiver on a Form 3 to another manufacturer for completion. The OLC has determined that the only transfer of a post-86 machinegun is to a law enforcement agency. There are clearly other concerning issues with regards to this that I will not address, in the hopes that they have eluded ATF.

Lastly, the NFATCA informed everyone that ATF is under specific direction that anything less than 100% during a compliance inspection must result in some form of administrative action. ATF will be conducting compliance inspections of all dealers within 36 months; the days of not having a compliance inspection for 10 years are a thing of the past.

And that is pretty much all the hot topics from the ATF Town Hall meeting and NFATCA meeting.

Well, no, not actually, because a little bird tells me that there was a lot of gossip and grumbling behind the scenes about NFATCA President John Brown's recent outing as an ATF snitch and just exactly how he is getting sweetheart (i.e., teflon) status in the soon-to-implode case of U.S. vs. Clark. Inquiring minds, it seems, want to know. The background noise of grumbling among NFATCA members is growing. The commoners don't like the "special status" of the Lairds and are wondering how much Brown and his former compadre Dan Shea (a source tells Sipsey Street that the former friends have had a falling out) told the ATF bigwigs like Rick Vasquez about THEM. (See here and here for previous Sipsey Street revelations about Mr. Shea.)

Just how long is the NFATCA going to tolerate a federal confidential informant as their "leader"? Inquiring minds want to know.

TOPICS: Business/Economy; Conspiracy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: atf; banglist; batfe; batfeisajoke; bootthebatfe; classthree; govtabuse; liberalfascism; lping; nfatca; policestate; shotshow; tyranny
The ATF should be abolished.
1 posted on 01/25/2012 6:06:14 AM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain
The ATF should be abolished.

Not only should BATFE be abolished, the new POTUS should do the following:

1) Immediately fire all ATF special agents.
2) Write an EO mandating that they may not only never seek a Federal Law Enforcement Job, but also never serve in the Federal Government.
3) Work with Congress to de-certify ATF agents and withhold funds from States and Local governments that attempt to hire them as law enforcement agents.
4) Write a blanket pardon for all offenders whom violated the NFA Act of 1934, GCA of 1968, FOPA, et. al. with firearms rights and voting rights restored, with the caveat that there was no original aggressor violence or drugs involved in the case.
5) Release all firearms held by the ATF Technical Branch, FBI labs, and testing centers that are not direct evidence in an open criminal investigation. Put all of these firearms on Form 3s and added to the tranferable registry.
6) Set a general amnesty for all NFA firearms open for four years until 20 JAN 2017.
7) Work with Congress to repeal NFA< GCA, FOPA, and all other anti-gun laws, while at the same time, make a simple federal law concentrating on possession by VIOLENT felons, illegals, and the involuntary-adjudicated mentally insane.
8) Until the time that ATF has fully been dismantled, move the NFA branch to Texas, hire only NRA life members and GOA members to do the transfers, and make only 2 ATF forms....NFA form 4 for individuals, trusts and coroporatioins, and a Form 3, a tax free transfer form....until the above said laws are repealed.

....and all of this thought up before my 2nd cup of coffee.

2 posted on 01/25/2012 6:27:53 AM PST by DCBryan1 (Id rather have a man who wrecked his marriage as POTUS than a man who wrecked his country!)
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To: marktwain

If only a presidential candidate would make that one of the issues of the campaign. An EO on day one, slashing ATF. A and T and F are all legal and constitutional products to own. An agency that should have gone away in 1933 with the end of the failed prohibition experiment. The 1934 Firearms Act should also be done away with, it was left over from trying to deal with the prohibition (tommy guns etc).

the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

3 posted on 01/25/2012 6:33:39 AM PST by An American! (Proud To Be An American!)
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To: marktwain
Also, it looks like ATF might turn on John Brown and Dan Shea. Both of them need to turn 2/3 into John Ross' book Unintended Consequences and start reading the chapter labeled War. I wouldn't put ANYTHING past ATF under the direction of Eric Holder, nothing. Hell, the ATF under Reno in the early 90s had more ethical standards and respect than they do now. ......


4 posted on 01/25/2012 6:33:56 AM PST by DCBryan1 (Id rather have a man who wrecked his marriage as POTUS than a man who wrecked his country!)
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To: DCBryan1

Dang you’re good!

5 posted on 01/25/2012 6:48:49 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: harpseal; TexasCowboy; nunya bidness; AAABEST; Travis McGee; Squantos; wku man; SLB; ...
Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!
6 posted on 01/25/2012 7:34:47 AM PST by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: marktwain
922 in it's entirety violates the Second Amendment. Abolish it.

Today. Right now in fact...

How many people have had their lives and livelyhood destroyed by this one unConstitutional law and all of the arbitrary nonsense perpetrated under its auspices?

7 posted on 01/25/2012 8:00:08 AM PST by Dead Corpse (Steampunk- Yesterday's Tomorrow, Today)
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To: marktwain

NFATCA??? Acronym interpretation, please. WTF izzat??

8 posted on 01/25/2012 8:46:26 AM PST by Wonder Warthog
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To: Wonder Warthog
Class 3 firearms collectors and dealers association.
9 posted on 01/25/2012 9:13:24 AM PST by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: gieriscm

Ping. Very interesting read.

10 posted on 01/25/2012 10:12:34 AM PST by BCR #226 (02/07 SOT BS stops when the hammer drops.)
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