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Does Sarah Palin Want Obama Reelected? [BARF ALERT!, MITTBOT ZOT]
John Ziegler.com ^ | January 28, 2012 | John Ziegler

Posted on 01/28/2012 11:56:58 AM PST by reformjoy

Editorial by John Ziegler

Does Sarah Palin Want Obama Reelected?

1/28/2012

We certainly live in bizarre times and everyone knows that politics makes for strange bedfellows. But the fact that as of late I (the guy who spent over two years being probably her strongest defender) have been one of the very few on the right pointing out the absurdity and hypocrisy of recent Sarah Palin’s public statements, shows exactly how close we indeed may be to the apocalypse.

Palin’s latest Facebook salvo is targeting the Republican “establishment cannibals” for using “Alinsky” tactics against Newt Gingrich in the run up to the Florida primary. Her main objection appears to be that those who have questioned Gingrich’s ties to Ronald Reagan have done so inappropriately and are effectively doing the work of the left.

The layers of silliness here are at least at multiple as those of snow in the frozen Alaskan icecap this time of year.

First, it was Newt Gingrich who raised the issue, constantly tying himself to Reagan and his accomplishments in almost every other bombastic breath. He made this topic an issue. No one else did that.

Second, those who have questioned whether the facts really back up the impression created by Newt that he is the last remaining heir to Reagan are hardly part of any Republican “establishment.” What the heck is the “Republican Establishment” anyway? Who are these people? Not even specifying who you are talking about makes you seen like a tin foil wearing conspiracy theorist.

So, because a few people who actually knew Reagan (unlike Palin who had barely graduated college by the end of the Gipper’s second term) have written articles which would have been largely ignored if they had been linked at the Drudge Report, this is so how evidence the work of a dark, shadowy “establishment”?

And how in the world is Matt Drudge part of any establishment? Anyone who has followed him closely (I used to fill in for him on his old radio show and have studied his tendencies extensively from multiple perspectives) knows he isn’t even a political person He is a brilliant business man, but his incredibly soft treatment of Obama during the 2008 primaries proves that he really couldn’t care less who wins elections from an ideological perspective.

And what about Drudge’s pal Ann Coulter who has also led the charge to tell the truth about Newt? Calling her part of the Republican Establishment is more hilarious than saying that about Drudge. She has made her very commercial career on being anything but “establishment.”

Palin goes on to defend Newt from the specific (and largely politically insignificant) allegation that he exaggerates his Reagan ties with an “argument” so thin it makes her 2008 attempt to explain her foreign policy credentials seem substantive by comparison.

She says that because Nancy Reagan once, while being extremely polite to Newt who was in attendance, sort of (not really if you look closely at the statement) proclaimed that “Ronnie” passed the “torch” to “Newt” and the other House Republicans who led the 1994 take over, that this is somehow proof that Newt is impervious to criticism here. Then she says that because Reagan’s step-son Michael and biggest fan, Rush Limbaugh, like Newt and condemn these “attacks,” that they must not be true (By the way, aren't Rush and Drudge also pals? How does this fit into the anti-Newt conspiracy?).

Even more laughable than this intellectual house of cards is how Palin simultaneously suggests that going after Newt like this is inappropriate, but that “vetting” Mitt Romney and his finances for as long as possible is good for the cause of beating Obama. Her “thinking” here is that because Democrats will surely use the issue of his wealth against him if he is the nominee, we need to make sure he can withstand the onslaught.

This might make some sense if Romney hadn’t already addressed the issue as much as he reasonably can and if Newt Gingrich hadn’t single-handedly legitimized this line of attack for the media/left, practically serving it up them on an envy-plated silver (certainly not gold) platter.

Now, to be fair, if there is a “Republican Establishment,” the former presidential nominees would certainly qualify and John McCain and Bob Dole have certainly been outspoken about the obvious electoral dangers of nominating the clearly unelectable Gingrich. But since when is actual knowledge about how the process works a disqualifier for your opinions?

And wait a minute; I thought Palin said people who knew Reagan should believed, so why are the far more numerous former colleagues (not to mention wives!) of Newt somehow discredited in their observations about him? Then, of course, there is the most obvious flaw in this entire theory: When did “Mr. Establishment” Newt Gingrich suddenly somehow become the anti-establishment candidate?

Palin simply isn’t being consistent in any of this, but it isn’t because she is stupid (as I have always said, she is most certainly not dumb). I believe her motivation is actually far more troubling than that.

There is no way that someone whose biggest issues in this cycle have been: combating “crony capitalism,” promoting “life,” beating Obama and overturning Obamacare, could possibly really favor the guy who got paid $1.6 million by Freddie Mac to be an “historian,” has zero chance to win the election, and had been in favor of a federal healthcare mandate for twenty years, especially when Mr. Pro-life (with a special needs child, no less) Rick Santorum is still viably in the race. It just makes no sense.

This brings me to my most important and surely controversial point regarding Palin’s latest attempt to endorse Newt without actually saying the magic words.

Could someone please tell me what her personal incentive is for President Obama to be defeated?

I would suggest that there is absolutely none.

If Romney beats Obama she is immediately irrelevant. Her entire purpose at this point is to throw bombs at a liberal President with whom she is obviously linked through her 2008 VP run. Not only would there be no one left in power for her to be the brunette Ann Coulter against, but her chapter of American history also becomes instantly ancient.

Even worse than that, unless she decides to go completely rogue and humiliate herself by being Romney’s primary opponent in 2016, she would have no, even theoretical, next political act until 2020 at the very earliest. That will not be nearly enough to sustain her career as a commentator/speaker/author at anything near its current levels.

So the only logical explanation for Palin’s bizarre “endorsement” of Gingrich is that she knows that he can’t win and that she is using him to create this false narrative of an evil “establishment” keeping the noble Tea Party down (explain to me again how Newt is remotely “Tea Party”?), like they somehow did in those Palin-induced Senate losses in Delaware and Nevada in 2010.

I don’t know if she really thinks Newt can win the nomination (which would obviously help her in both the short and long runs), but she clearly sees no downside to creating as much damage to Romney as possible. This whole effort is nothing more than a branding/career move for Sarah Palin.

At one point she might have deserved the benefit of the doubt that she was just "misguided," but her clearly cynical presidential "tease" last year ended any ambiguity about her true motives now.

That is what makes this whole thing so incredibly ironic. In so vehemently questioning the credibility of the “establishment,” she has revealed that she has a massive conflict of interest herself and should no longer be trusted on the issue of this presidential primary.


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KEYWORDS: dirtbag; election2012; gingrich; jilted; johnziegler; loser; romney; sarahpalin; stalker; zot
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1 posted on 01/28/2012 11:57:10 AM PST by reformjoy
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To: reformjoy

Are Bob Grant (from another thread today) and John Ziegler twins from the same “other” planet?


2 posted on 01/28/2012 12:00:14 PM PST by loveliberty2
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To: reformjoy

Huh? Don’t know who this guy is but he really needs to keep up, apparently he is out of the reality world loop.


3 posted on 01/28/2012 12:01:30 PM PST by svcw (For the new year: you better toughen You up, if you are going to continue to be stupid.)
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To: reformjoy
coulter mad, Diary of a mad RomneyBot
4 posted on 01/28/2012 12:01:52 PM PST by FrankR (You are only enslaved to the extent of the entitlements you receive.)
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To: reformjoy

Oh puuullleeeeezzzzzeeee.

Palin is pointing out that the Washington insiders in both parties are terrified of Gingrich. As POTUS he might try to stop the taxpayer gravytrain.

The insiders don’t much care if it’s Obama or Romney, as long as it’s one of them.

Palin knows this, says it, and is castigated by the usual suspects.


5 posted on 01/28/2012 12:02:10 PM PST by kjo
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To: reformjoy

What does Ziegler have up his tush about Sarah these days?

Sarah is a Patriot who would never want to see a thug like 0bama re-elected.

She wants Newt, but she does need to step forward and give a bold, official endorsement.


6 posted on 01/28/2012 12:02:14 PM PST by GR_Jr. (ABR / AB0 (Anybody but Romney, and then Anybody but 0bama))
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To: reformjoy

This punk deserves even less Internet attention than he gets.


7 posted on 01/28/2012 12:02:41 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: kjo

That’s correct. Romney/Obama, same difference in my mind.


8 posted on 01/28/2012 12:05:10 PM PST by ScubieNuc (When there is no justice in the laws, justice is left to the outlaws.)
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To: reformjoy

John Zeiglar, you are part of the problem.

Palin was SAVAGED by every corner of the media, and more importantly by the GOP establishment. Now YOU are picking up their water.


9 posted on 01/28/2012 12:05:57 PM PST by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: loveliberty2
Are Bob Grant (from another thread today) and John Ziegler twins from the same “other” planet?

I guess once you've been assimilated into the GOP Establishment collective, it's hard to tell them apart. Ziegler got one of those cool eye thingies.


10 posted on 01/28/2012 12:06:26 PM PST by COBOL2Java (Controlling RINOs in Congress is like herding cats; should we be surprised Newt got scratched?)
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To: reformjoy

He’s such a fraud.


11 posted on 01/28/2012 12:07:31 PM PST by Politics4US
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To: reformjoy

[ Could someone please tell me what her personal incentive is for President Obama to be defeated? -John Zieler ]

BECAUSE.. Myth is a moderate RINO and has been fooling democrats to vote for him for years and is currently fooling republicans.. He is a democrat with a “R” by his name..

John is really not very smart..


12 posted on 01/28/2012 12:07:42 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: ScubieNuc

+1.


13 posted on 01/28/2012 12:07:54 PM PST by freemarketsfreeminds
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To: reformjoy

This meme is going around comment boards.

The thinking is Palin wants Newt, knowing he’ll lose to Obama, opening up a 2016 run.

If Romney wins and beats Obama, she has no shot until 2020.

Of course in 2020 she’d still be only 54. So there goes that theory.


14 posted on 01/28/2012 12:09:12 PM PST by nhwingut (Sarah Palin 12... No One Else (Maybe Tim Thomas))
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To: reformjoy

Boy, talk about an election that’s bringing them out ...Ziegler’s either living under a rock or just left Romney’s out house and succumed to the “perfume”.


15 posted on 01/28/2012 12:09:14 PM PST by mosesdapoet (Moses ..A nick name I received as a kid for warning another -It's a sin to tell a lie")
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To: kjo; All

I guess the insiders are terrified of a fellow insider because he knows where all the bodies are buried. On the other hand I just read the headline to a friend and his comment was, “It would certainly take the oxygen out of her shtick(sp?) if a Republican was elected.”


16 posted on 01/28/2012 12:09:44 PM PST by gleeaikin
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To: reformjoy

Ziegler is just upset that Palin didn’t want anything to do with him after his DVD that he made..Todd knew something smelled rotten about this guy..good thing they threw this fool to the curb, he is a mental patient..he was fired from KFI because they knew what a total sleazebag he is. First he said she should not run til 2016, then he bitches about how she didnt endorse Bachmann, then he cries about her not running, now he is crying about something else..what a loon


17 posted on 01/28/2012 12:10:21 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: reformjoy

Single. Dumbest. Thing. Posted. On. Free Republic. EVER.


18 posted on 01/28/2012 12:12:00 PM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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To: nhwingut

Thought she was born in 64?


19 posted on 01/28/2012 12:12:00 PM PST by nascarnation (DEFEAT BARAQ 2012 DEPORT BARAQ 2013)
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To: reformjoy

Romney people with thin skins knowing Newt has a surge coming once again. They are the suicidal ones, not Sarah.


20 posted on 01/28/2012 12:12:06 PM PST by OPS4 (Ops4 God Bless America!Jesus is Lord)
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To: nhwingut

That whole argument is ridiculous. If Romney is the nominee Obama wins by between 12-15 points, I think most people know that. Romney is a Democrat with an R next to his name, would he a slight improvement over Obama, yes, but heck even Soros says they are both the same


21 posted on 01/28/2012 12:12:16 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: hosepipe

Romney is as much a Republican as Michael Bloomberg. /s


22 posted on 01/28/2012 12:13:14 PM PST by CASchack
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To: reformjoy
Ziegler tried very hard to muscle his way into Sarah's inner circle; to be her chief political adviser an all around go-to-guy. Sarah wisely told him to hit the road. He's never forgiven her for that and he continues to take nasty swipes at every opportunity.
23 posted on 01/28/2012 12:14:14 PM PST by JPG (Matters at which the foolish laugh and at whose consequences the prudent weep.)
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To: reformjoy; Morgana; null and void; writer33; DoughtyOne; KantianBurke

Sarah Palin and others, including FReepers, are simply doing what Bob Grant and this Zeigler guy is doing. They are picking and defending their candidate and ignoring all of their obvious flaws.

For Grant or Zeigler to accuse Palin of wanting Obama re-elected, sound familiar?, because she doesn’t like their guy is ludicrous.

The fact is that both candidates ARE flawed, Romney might as well be Obama (not even worth considering, IMO) and Newt is capable of flipping 180 on big issues like Individual mandates, global warming, amnesty and whatnot.

Just because someone has decided the other guy is more electable doesn’t mean they support Obama. Just because they don’t like either also doesn’t mean they support Obama.

That is my opinion and I want Obama gone yesteryear!


24 posted on 01/28/2012 12:14:49 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: reformjoy
Is Newt Gingrich ‘Establishment’?

Sure, he's ‘establishment’ for the Republicans in the mid 1990’s. Since then, we've had George W Bush's big government spending, McCain's presidential crash and burn, and all this time, their people getting higher and higher in state party offices, getting more influence from ‘packaging’ donations to the candidate for president, etc.

Mitt Romney will keep those same players in the game, as he's helped them over the years, and they're paying back that support with support now. Newt Gingrich's team has no need of them, and likely will dismiss most of them, as they've acted against Newt in the primaries.

This, actually, is what is meant when talking about ‘the establishment’ in Republican politics. The same bastards who mock the TEA party conservatives, who think a balanced budget is one that can lay on supersized dining table, who have no problem making more and more mandates from Washington to cement their power.

Is Newt some outside radical? Of course he is, compared to what's inside right now. Is he electable? I mean, come on, we got a half-white guy in the White House who has pretty much done nothing with his whole life. Apparently qualifications are pretty thin when it comes to winning the White House.

25 posted on 01/28/2012 12:15:04 PM PST by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: reformjoy
WORST
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26 posted on 01/28/2012 12:15:33 PM PST by Lazamataz (Norm Lenhart knows nothing about reloading.)
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To: reformjoy

FUJZ!!

Yeah, and Benedict Arnold was a hero to the cause too, before he betrayed it!!

REBELLION IS ON!!


27 posted on 01/28/2012 12:15:48 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is not just brewing, rebellion is here!!)
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To: reformjoy

Go, Sarah!!

Go, Newt!!

Go, tea party rebellion!!


28 posted on 01/28/2012 12:16:49 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is not just brewing, rebellion is here!!)
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To: All

So says another establishment mouse.
(yawn)


29 posted on 01/28/2012 12:17:00 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks reformjoy.


30 posted on 01/28/2012 12:17:20 PM PST by SunkenCiv (FReep this FReepathon!)
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To: reformjoy

John Ziegler is a moron and isn’t worth reading.


31 posted on 01/28/2012 12:18:55 PM PST by Gator113 (~Just livin' life, my way~..... GO NEWT GO--itÂ’s about the survival of our country!!)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

EVER


32 posted on 01/28/2012 12:19:16 PM PST by Lazamataz (Norm Lenhart knows nothing about reloading.)
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To: reformjoy

This looks like a Hillary Clinton supporter posting troll material


33 posted on 01/28/2012 12:19:32 PM PST by OPS4 (Ops4 God Bless America!Jesus is Lord)
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To: reformjoy

The GOP elites and their backers are proud of what they are. There’s no shame or reservation in what they do. Fine by me. I’ll have no shame when I get the opportunity to set things right. None!


34 posted on 01/28/2012 12:19:55 PM PST by APatientMan (Pick a side)
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To: reformjoy

“So the only logical explanation for Palin’s bizarre “endorsement” of Gingrich is that she knows that he can’t win and that she is using him to create this false narrative of an evil “establishment” keeping the noble Tea Party down (explain to me again how Newt is remotely “Tea Party”?), like they somehow did in those Palin-induced Senate losses in Delaware and Nevada in 2010.”

I have to think about this. Could Sarah Palin be so devious?

And being a commentator on FOX news (called here at FR “FAUX” NEWS), isn’t Sarah Palin a member of both the Establishment and the hated Media Elites?


35 posted on 01/28/2012 12:20:07 PM PST by Warthog-2 (Character Counts)
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To: SunkenCiv

Yeah, thanks for NUTHIN.


36 posted on 01/28/2012 12:20:37 PM PST by Lazamataz (Norm Lenhart knows nothing about reloading.)
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To: reformjoy

You wanna war?


37 posted on 01/28/2012 12:21:29 PM PST by McGruff (Rebellion is brewing!)
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To: reformjoy
(Palin) ...... should no longer be trusted on the issue of this presidential primary

Hit piece trying to take Sarah down yet again ..... her comments have not been helpful to Romney. I saw something (can't remember where) that seemed to tie some of Romney's current advisors into the attempt to destroy her a couple of years ago - Romney needed her out of the way so she couldn't challenge him. I'm trying to find something on this, but no luck so far.

38 posted on 01/28/2012 12:21:29 PM PST by MissMagnolia (Being powerful is like being a lady. If you have to tell people you are, you aren't. (M.Thatcher))
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>> Does Sarah Palin Want Obama Reelected?

Take your BS premise, and go pound sand.


39 posted on 01/28/2012 12:21:29 PM PST by Gene Eric (C'mon, Virginia -- are you with us or against us?!)
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To: reformjoy; Abbeville Conservative; abigailsmybaby; afnamvet; alley cat; antceecee; APatientMan; ...
Sarah Palin's New Ping List

THIS SPITEFUL IDIOT WAS REJECTED BY SARAH & TODD PALIN LONG AGO!

GO SARAH! GO NEWT!

40 posted on 01/28/2012 12:24:17 PM PST by onyx (PLEASE SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC - DONATE MONTHLY! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, let me know!)
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To: Gene Eric

this is getting sickening. THERE IS A DIME’S WORTH OF DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ROMNEY AND OBAMA! how is it that these establishment whackjobs see romney as a savior and obama as the devil?


41 posted on 01/28/2012 12:27:11 PM PST by freemarketsfreeminds
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To: reformjoy

What a load of horsesh*t.

Ziegler is so biased against Sarah Palin that anything he says about her is of the type a bitter ex-boyfriend/husband would use against the former love of his life who now spurns him.


42 posted on 01/28/2012 12:30:09 PM PST by BuckeyeTexan (Man is not free unless government is limited. ~Ronald Reagan)
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To: onyx; All
Click

Palin: "Look at Newt Gingrich, what’s going on with him, via the establishment’s attacks.
They’re trying to crucify this man and rewrite history, and rewrite what it is that he has
stood for all these years."

43 posted on 01/28/2012 12:32:11 PM PST by RedMDer (Forward With Confidence!)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

He sure does act like a spurned lover.


44 posted on 01/28/2012 12:38:25 PM PST by Warthog-2 (Character Counts)
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To: loveliberty2
John Ziegler thought he had a "special" relationship with Sarah Palin, and found out it was just a grandiose delusion. The simple fart has never forgiven her since.
45 posted on 01/28/2012 12:39:15 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: onyx

Sarah knows the election isn’t about her or her future. It is about the future of America!
It is important to look at big picture. This is not even about Obama, but about big government liberal thinking drunk with power who want to maintain the status quo. Both on the left and right.
In that sense Romney is just the flip side of the Alinsky trained radical coin. Obama or Obama-lite? Both would destroy America.
I think Newt has the capacity to see what is happening, and I think he has, in a sense,been transformed by this campaign.
Why does George Soros say it doesn’t matter if it’s Mitt or Barry?
He probably owns them both!


46 posted on 01/28/2012 12:39:39 PM PST by Cincinna ( *** NOBAMA 2012 ***)
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To: freemarketsfreeminds
how is it that these establishment whackjobs see romney as a savior and obama as the devil?

RINOs love being in control of the federal teat more than they love this country.

47 posted on 01/28/2012 12:40:05 PM PST by COBOL2Java (Controlling RINOs in Congress is like herding cats; should we be surprised Newt got scratched?)
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To: reformjoy
"...(explain to me again how Newt is remotely “Tea Party”?)..." ~ Ziegler

Of all the candidates, Newt is a Tea Partier from way back! --1994--

House Minority Whip Gingrich and 7th District congressional candidate Brenda Fitzgerald throw mock tea crates into the Chattahoochee River on April 15, 1994, as part of a "Taxpayer's Tea party" in Roswell, Georgia.

HERE: "Mitt Romney predicts tea party will turn on Newt Gingrich" ~ By Associated Press Saturday, December 17, 2011

48 posted on 01/28/2012 12:41:04 PM PST by Matchett-PI ("One party will generally represent the envied, the other the envious. Guess which ones." ~GagdadBob)
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To: Warthog-2

“Could Sarah Palin be so devious?”

Devious? Nah. Haven’t you heard - She’s irrelevant, she’s through, she’s going to fade away, she is yesterday’s news, she ought to stop weighing in, her endorsement isn’t beneficial, she should just hush up, she’s jumped the shark, she has no influence, blah, blah, blah.

Anyone who sums Palin up with “Palin-induced Senate losses in Delaware and Nevada in 2010” is either blind, a fool or both.


49 posted on 01/28/2012 12:42:18 PM PST by APatientMan (Pick a side)
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To: COBOL2Java

for sure.


50 posted on 01/28/2012 12:44:19 PM PST by freemarketsfreeminds
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