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GEORGIA HEARINGS TWO OUT OF THREE AIN'T BAD
The Birther Summit ^ | 01-30-2012 | Dean Haskins

Posted on 01/30/2012 2:22:24 PM PST by Music Producer

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To: chopperman

She is a mole ... whack-a-mole, that is. And on top of that, she’s an incompetent, lunatic, attention whore running a freak show that distracts from the serious nature of the underlying Constitutional question.

But I’ve been sayin’ that goin’ on three years now and it ain’t made no nevermind to this point.


51 posted on 01/30/2012 10:31:55 PM PST by BuckeyeTexan (Man is not free unless government is limited. ~Ronald Reagan)
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To: Tex-Con-Man; humblegunner; Drew68

We might need a Sanity Squad drinking game. Every time Orly says “I,” you drink. She’s as bad as Obama with the “me, myself, and I” routine.

After one court hearing, we’d be knee-crawlin’, snot-slingin’, commode-huggin’ drunk until 2014.


52 posted on 01/30/2012 10:43:43 PM PST by BuckeyeTexan (Man is not free unless government is limited. ~Ronald Reagan)
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To: Tex-Con-Man; humblegunner; Drew68

We might need a Sanity Squad drinking game. Every time Orly says “I,” you drink. She’s as bad as Obama with the “me, myself, and I” routine.

After one court hearing, we’d be knee-crawlin’, snot-slingin’, commode-huggin’ drunk until 2014.


53 posted on 01/30/2012 10:44:13 PM PST by BuckeyeTexan (Man is not free unless government is limited. ~Ronald Reagan)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

every time she says uh would be quicker...


54 posted on 01/30/2012 10:55:06 PM PST by rolling_stone
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To: Music Producer
If we are willing to disregard truth and decency in our quest toward a goal, then we should re-examine our motivation for that goal.

Exactly.

55 posted on 01/30/2012 10:59:00 PM PST by BuckeyeTexan (Man is not free unless government is limited. ~Ronald Reagan)
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To: rolling_stone

Well, I do have FReeping to do. I can’t incapacitate myself. ;p


56 posted on 01/30/2012 11:01:32 PM PST by BuckeyeTexan (Man is not free unless government is limited. ~Ronald Reagan)
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To: Music Producer
If one forces himself to research and study the facts, apart from the repeatedly baseless claims, he will necessarily come to the same conclusion, for the facts themselves do not lie.

The problem with that theory is that one can argue the absolutely undeniable fact that a subpoena downloaded from the website of an ALJ in GA carries no force and has no effect upon the Hawaii DoH and still end up saying "we agree to disagree" about what is a fact. Sad, but true.

57 posted on 01/30/2012 11:23:48 PM PST by BuckeyeTexan (Man is not free unless government is limited. ~Ronald Reagan)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

http://www.mental-health-today.com/narcissistic/dsm.htm

Hmmmm . . . sound like anyone we know?


58 posted on 01/31/2012 4:22:13 AM PST by Music Producer
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To: Music Producer

Two professional and credible witnesses have testified under oath in an administrative court during an administrative hearing in Georgia that Obama’s SSN# appears to be fraudulent.

Does Obama have a tax attorney? Does this tax attorney know about these claims of fraud? Does this tax attorney have an obligation to ask Obama if he is using a stolen SSN#?

Does this attorney have any liability if he has been informed of possible fraud? Is this attorney willing to submit Obama’s tax forms this year?

Tides turn, public mood shifts, power changes hands, information previously unavailable suddenly becomes available. Those who think they are protected will find themselves without protection.

Who else wants to go down on the S.S. Obama?


59 posted on 01/31/2012 4:23:02 AM PST by Smokeyblue (Obama's got NBC problems and birth certificate problems - a bad case of Cluster F**ked.)
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To: patriot08

I don’t think an Obama supporter would attack Orly while providing support for the other plaintiffs.


60 posted on 01/31/2012 4:35:21 AM PST by chopperman
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To: Music Producer

If we publicly condemn the evil of the other side, yet quietly accept it on our side, we are nothing but hypocrites.


61 posted on 01/31/2012 6:33:17 AM PST by Music Producer
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To: Music Producer

Would you please respond to post 7. Thank you.


62 posted on 01/31/2012 9:50:00 AM PST by Reddy (B.O. stinks)
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To: Reddy

Could you ping me if you find out? Thanks.


63 posted on 01/31/2012 9:57:21 AM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell)
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To: Reddy

Prior to this article, I had written three others:

Jan. 19 - http://www.birthersummit.org/news/74-of-subpoenas-trials-and-a-vexatious-litigant.html

Jan. 20 - http://www.birthersummit.org/news/75-has-orly-actually-won-won-won.html

Jan. 21 - http://www.birthersummit.org/news/76-has-dean-haskins-lost-his-mind.html


64 posted on 01/31/2012 10:01:06 AM PST by Music Producer
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To: Music Producer
Shrug.

The situation with Orly Taitz is the logical result of a diverse movement that has embraced those who have spent almost four years latching on to any and every new Birther thing that came down the pike, however crazy, and vigorously denouncing those who didn't maintain ideological purity as Obot kneepadders.

It's a little difficult to generate much sympathy for those who are just now figuring out that Orly is a total nutbar.

65 posted on 01/31/2012 11:57:45 AM PST by El Sordo (The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.)
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To: Music Producer
Obama has known from the beginning that he had a potential issue with fulfilling the Article 2 Section 1 'natural born Citizen' requirement.

Leo Donofrio has done an excellent job in revealing the obfuscation of Minor v Happersett that started prior to the 2008 election.

But the Obama team could not rewrite history. So how do they further hide their problem? They move to redefine the publics understanding of the definition of a 'natural born Citizen', and equate it to a 'native born citizen' - the public likes to think of themselves as understanding the issue, and therefore they very much like this new definition.

Obama knows the only way this issue can hurt him, is if the public falls behind it. He will not have a problem, unless the American people demand he leave office.

This is where the 'birthers' come in. With the new public definition of natural-born being equivalent to native-born. The focus has been removed from the real problem of Obama's father not being a US Citizen, to a false issue of where Obama was born. If you explain to someone that Obama is not eligible because his father was not a US citizen. And the founders created the NBC requirement explicitly to avoid that situation. They will not think you are crazy. But if you tell then that Obama is not eligible because you think he wsa born in Kenya, they will think you are crazy.

Just like the public likes to think they understand an issue, and that is why they prefer the native-born equivalent definition of natural born citizen, they also do not like to think that they fall into a group that others consider crazy. That is why Obama keeps the whole 'birther' (the ones that claim Obama wasn't born in Hawaii, or is not a US citizen) issue alive. Whenever it died down, he raised it back up - exp. Trump, and Ambercrombie.

Orly Taitz has done more to help Obama hide his eligibilty problems than anyone on the planet! She has done this by allowing the media to focus on the issues that the media want to focus on, the issues that allow the public to continue to think of 'birthers' as a group of crazy people that they do not want to be a part of. And to solidify Obama's redefining of 'natural born Citizen' to mean the same as native-born citizen.

Obama will not have a problem unless the general public begins to see him as ineligible. And that will not happen unless the general public starts to not see 'birthers' as not so crazy. And that is not going to happen as long as Orly is out in front, focusing on the issues that the public considers crazy.

I used to believe in Orly - until I saw her in a court room. Then I thought that maybe she just isn't a very good lawyer. But I'm starting to question that thinking. This is women smart enough to get through dental school, and law school, and pass the bar. She can not be as incompetent as she makes herself look. I'm honestly beginning to believe in the posability that she is the star player in the opposing teams lineup!
66 posted on 01/31/2012 12:38:45 PM PST by MMaschin
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To: MMaschin; LucyT; null and void; Danae; Red Steel; David; Fantasywriter; melancholy; GregNH; ...
Pinging a few names to what I see as a MONEY QUOTE, explains the obots' fixation that "two citizen parents" is nonsense:

But the Obama team could not rewrite history. So how do they further hide their problem? They move to redefine the publics understanding of the definition of a 'natural born Citizen', and equate it to a 'native born citizen' - the public likes to think of themselves as understanding the issue, and therefore they very much like this new definition.

67 posted on 01/31/2012 1:47:46 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell)
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Actually pinging you to his whole comment above. Not sure I agree with everything; for instance that the “born somewhere else” id useless, because a NBC is one BORN IN THE COUNTRY as well has having 2 citizen parents. And I think Zero is entirely non-eligible in every possible way.


68 posted on 01/31/2012 1:51:21 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell)
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To: LucyT

life’s too short to enter into a contest one could name

SO WHO’S CRAZY NOW?

http://mikibooth.com/video-archives/miki-booth-and-dean-haskins-the-honolulu-invasion-of-september-2011/


69 posted on 01/31/2012 5:34:33 PM PST by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: little jeremiah

a native citizen of the United States of America...

70 posted on 01/31/2012 5:43:24 PM PST by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: Fred Nerks

Exactly. They figured a fake HI BC would befool enough people; akin to throwing dust in the eyes of adversaries.


71 posted on 01/31/2012 5:50:18 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell)
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To: MMaschin; Flotsam_Jetsome; Berlin_Freeper; Hotlanta Mike; Silentgypsy; repubmom; ...
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Check out # 66.

. . . . Read and discuss.

Also see # 69.

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72 posted on 01/31/2012 6:02:43 PM PST by LucyT
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To: MMaschin

That was very well stated. Thank you for your perspective.

LucyT: Thanks for the Ping!


73 posted on 01/31/2012 7:28:35 PM PST by Flotsam_Jetsome (If not you, who? If not now, when?)
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To: MMaschin

A good post.

Unfortunately, the entire subject and environment is such a target rich environment that getting focused on one of the key elements is difficult.

Are either BC image or photos authentic? Almost certainly not. But unless someone is going to challenge the HDOH it is a mute point.

Was Obama born in Kenya? Not likely at all. The relationship between Stanly Ann and Obama Sr. is debunked. And the logistics are improbable.

Was he adopted by Soetoro and became an Indonesian citizen? Maybe. But that trail has been scrubbed well. But Indonesia does seem to always throw the Obots into a frenzy for some reason. It was the question of being Muslim in Indonesia that forced the Democratic blogs to release the first COLB image in June of 2008.

Did he leverage his ‘foreignness’ to attend college, thus disowning the US after age 18? Possibly. But the tell tale Oxy records have been scrubbed well.

Was his legal, acknowledged, documented father a foreigner, more specifically a British Citizen foreigner? YES. Does this disqualify him? YES. Should this be focus in state challenges? YES.

Forget Malcolm X, forget Frank Marshall Davis. There is a divorce that is on file with names and there are INS records for Senior that acknowledge the marriage and Obama II as his child. The state of Hawaii backs this scenario and it is the standing legal fact. Chasing alternative fathers is chasing ghosts and it is counter to an issue that now the absolute key focal point.

I believe all the other items above are problems or potential problems and are very like real scenarios that all create nbC or straight forward citizenship problems for Obama. But none of them will be resolved before November unless a deep insider comes out with a detailed map as too where all the bodies are buried and a detailed accounting of the facts. And the past so murky - very, very few know the entire story.

So it is time to push the scenario and issue that is winnable at the state level during the current cycle - eligibility as a natural born Citizen as defined in Minor.

For the record I believe Obama Senior is the father and he was born in Hawaii or Washington. Kenya is giant red herring that has been planted to distract IMHO. And alternate fathers will never, ever be proven without a DNA test. So why bother with this path - it is a waste of time.

nbC as defined by M v. H. Period. (for now)


74 posted on 01/31/2012 7:31:30 PM PST by bluecat6 ( "A non-denial denial. They doubt our heritage, but they don't say the story is not accurate.")
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To: little jeremiah

“Befool?” I like it. :)


75 posted on 02/01/2012 7:23:16 AM PST by Greenperson
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To: Greenperson

High time for everyone who isn’t a raving nutcase/lunatic to stop going along with the befoolment! Yeah!

Or is the correct word “befoolery”?


76 posted on 02/01/2012 8:27:20 AM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell)
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To: little jeremiah

I vote for befoolery. Trips off the tongue like misunderestimate. :)


77 posted on 02/01/2012 1:26:47 PM PST by Greenperson
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To: bluecat6

“.....So it is time to push the scenario and issue that is winnable at the state level during the current cycle - eligibility as a natural born Citizen as defined in Minor....”

I agree, such a “rifle shot” approach will likely be more fruitful than a “shotgun” approach going after everything clearly bogus about Obama. I hope that ballot access challenges in battle ground states (such as Florida) will have the potential to be as productive as Georgia promises to be. And a courageous and historic decision by Judge Michael Malihi and Secretary Brian Kemp in Georgia will be extremely helpful to the cause of justice as actions proceed in other states.

And folks, in addition to supporting FreeRupublic financially, we should also consider financially supporting some of these challenges to the extent we can.

http://obamaballotchallenge.com/fl-primary-opens-door-to-obama-eligibilty-challenge


78 posted on 02/01/2012 2:54:04 PM PST by House Atreides
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