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Obama live speech:"Jesus would raise taxes on 'the rich'"
MSNBC The Daily RunDown Live stream | 2/2/2012 | SOL/Obama at Prayer breakfast

Posted on 02/02/2012 6:45:51 AM PST by sickoflibs

Obama just said in a live speech (9:18 AM EST) at a Prayer Breakfast that he wants to raise taxes on the rich because his Christian values tell him to personally give more to those less fortunate by raising his own taxes, just as Jesus would do. Not kidding.... now he just called federal welfare 'charity'... and just accused those of opposing tax increases as 'not having Jesus love of others in their hearts'

Did Jesus really ask the Romans to raise taxes on the Jews and Samaritans to pay for the fish, bread and wine for the early Christians for economic fairness?? I read the Bible a few times but missed that part, "The Book of Krugman" ?


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To: sickoflibs
The Real Story Behind Rev. Wright's Controversial Black Liberation Theology Doctrine
Monday , May 5, 2008
FoxNews/Hannity's America
[special Friday night edition--original airdate May 2, 2008]

(some key excerpts)

["(Jose) Diaz-Balart is the son of Rafael Diaz-Balart y Guitierrez (a former Cuban politician). He has three bothers, Rafael Diaz-Balart (a banker), Mario Diaz-Balart (a US Congressman) and Lincoln Diaz-Balart (also a US Congressman). His aunt, Mirta Diaz-Balart, was Fidel Castro's first wife."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jose_Diaz-Balart]

JOSE DIAZ-BALART, TELEMUNDO NETWORK: "Liberation theology in Nicaragua in the mid-1980's was a pro-Sandinista, pro-Marxist, anti-U.S., anti-Catholic Church movement. That's it. No ifs, ands, or buts. His church apparently supported, in the mid-'80s in Nicaragua, groups that supported the Sandinista dictatorships and that were opposed to the Contras whose reason for being was calling for elections. That's all I know. I was there.

I saw the churches in Nicaragua that he spoke of, and the churches were churches that talked about the need for violent revolution and I remember clearly one of the major churches in Managua where the Jesus Christ on the altar was not Jesus Christ, he was a Sandinista soldier, and the priests talked about the corruption of the West, talked about the need for revolution everywhere, and talked about 'the evil empire' which was the United States of America."

REV. BOB SCHENCK, NATIONAL CLERGY COUNCIL: "it's based in Marxism. At the core of his [Wright's] theology is really an anti-Christian understanding of God, and as part of a long history of individuals who actually advocate using violence in overthrowing those they perceive to be oppressing them, even acts of murder have been defended by followers of liberation theology. That's very, very dangerous."

SCHENCK: "I was actually the only person escorted to Dr. Wright. He asked to see me, and I simply welcomed him to Washington, and then I said Dr. Wright, I want to bring you a warning: your embrace of Marxist liberation theology. It is contrary to the Gospel, and you need, sir, to abandon it. And at that he dropped the handshake and made it clear that he was not in the mood to dialogue on that point."

Source: The Real Story Behind Rev. Wright's Controversial Black Liberation Theology Doctrine:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,354158,00.html

21 posted on 02/02/2012 7:16:01 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: sickoflibs

Meanwhile, on his big butt wife’s birthday recently, the two of these hypocrites were eating $81 steaks in a D.C. restaurant that sells $28 “Obama” hamburgers.

Give your OWN money to “charity,” Hussein.


22 posted on 02/02/2012 7:26:57 AM PST by july4thfreedomfoundation (I'm NOT smitten' with Mittens. Just say NO to Massachusetts liberals.)
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To: sickoflibs

I don’t remember anythng from the gospels about Jesus advising Caesar on government policy.

I do remember the disciple most obsessed with Social Justice selling him out for 30 pieces of silver.


23 posted on 02/02/2012 7:27:37 AM PST by jtal (Runnin' a World in Need with White Folks' Greed - since 1492)
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To: sickoflibs

0bummer’s addiction to lying & continued mockery of Christ and all symbols thereof are sickening. “Leader of the Free World” descent into the corrupt tyrannical debt-enslaved FORMERLY free... What a grifter.


24 posted on 02/02/2012 7:29:11 AM PST by MonicaG (God bless our military! Praying and thanking God for you every day. Thank you!)
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To: sickoflibs
Compelled giving is not charity. Charity only glorifies G_d when it's given willingly and especially when it's given sacrificially - i.e. at a level that hurts. The focus of charity is actually on the soul of the giver and not the recipient. Obama uses scripture as a tool. We'll all answer, but I'd rather be me than him when we return to the dust. He'll probably have his reward here, though.
25 posted on 02/02/2012 7:39:24 AM PST by throwback ( The object of opening the mind, as of opening the mouth, is to shut it again on something solid)
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To: ETL

I have to give Hannity credit for this much, at least he was one of the all too few voices in the media trying to warn people about Comrade Zero’s background.


26 posted on 02/02/2012 7:42:38 AM PST by Marathoner (In the 80s we had Reagan, Johnny Cash and Bob Hope. Now we have Obama, no cash and no hope.)
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To: sickoflibs

I swear if I was sitting in some of his speeches, I think I would laugh out loud at the absurdity of it all.
I don’t think I know I would
Melissa


27 posted on 02/02/2012 7:42:57 AM PST by mel (There are only 2 races decent and undecent people)
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To: sickoflibs

Biblical Jesus: Give your money to the poor.

Obama’s Jesus: Give your neighbors’ money to the poor.


28 posted on 02/02/2012 7:50:39 AM PST by kevao
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To: sickoflibs
Jesus would raise taxes on the rich

"Render unto Cesar what is Cesar's", Jesus asked the rich to help the poor directly but never by the way of Cesar. The Obozo doesn't know Scripture because he's a Muslim. HISTORY indicates that Mohammad on the other hand would just kill the rich and take their wealth and divvy out the spoils to the rest of his murdering thugs. He used that activity exclusively and successfully to gain followers.

29 posted on 02/02/2012 7:52:52 AM PST by drypowder
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To: sickoflibs

Substitute “Jews” for “Rich” and you can decode the real meaning here. Then by bringing up Jesus you can bring in all the old Jews killed Jesus stuff that has been so popular over the milennnia. This is been the message of “Occupy” (sent down from 0bama) and it’s the message here. It’s basically Hitler/Muslim Brotherhood/Liberation Theology. This is toxic stuff and very deliberate IMHO.


30 posted on 02/02/2012 7:59:15 AM PST by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: sickoflibs

Jesus, in Matthew 20:15 “ Is it not lawful for me to do what I want with my own?”

Mark 7:20-23
(20) And He said, That which comes out of the man is what defiles the man.
(21) For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders,
(22) thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lasciviousness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness:
(23) All these evil things pass out from inside and defile the man.

Here, Jesus says that coveting and theft is EVIL.

Luke 12:15
(15) And He said to them, Watch and keep yourselves from covetousness. For a man’s life is not in the abundance of the things which he possesses.

Matthew 19:17-19
(17) And He said to him, Why do you call Me good? There is none good but one, that is, God. But if you want to enter into life, keep the commandments.
(18) He said to Him, Which? Jesus said, You shall not murder, you shall not commit adultery, you shall not steal, you shall not bear false witness,
(19) honor your father and mother, and, you shall love your neighbor as yourself.

Socialism is the ideology that we must all live at the expense of everyone else. In order to do this, the wealth of all is presumed to belong to government so it may distribute as it sees fit. This is institutionalized coveting and theft. It easily violates the Ten Commandments in so many ways. The sad thing is so many Christians think this is “social justice.” But “social justice” is an attempt to bring about a godless Utopia.

Socialism also institutionalizes lies. The first one being that we will be better off through socialism than through the free market.

Previous attempts at bringing Utopia in the 20th century cost over 100 million lives.

Galatians 6:7
(7) Do not be deceived, God is not mocked. For whatever a man sows, that he also will reap.


31 posted on 02/02/2012 8:06:12 AM PST by theBuckwheat
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To: sickoflibs
The problem with America's poor isn't that they don't have enough ‘stuff’. It's that they're spiritually alienated from any positive influence of the culture has to offer. The men have become wastrels - - the women lost.
32 posted on 02/02/2012 8:08:18 AM PST by GOPJ (GAS WAS $1.85 per gallon on the day Obama was Inaugurated! - - freeper Gaffer)
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To: sickoflibs; NFHale; hiredhand; stephenjohnbanker
"The Book of Krugman"

more like the Book of Keynesians...with a reach back to O.T. days and speaking from the I AM POV...

Luke 20:24-26

[24]Show me a penny. Whose image and superscription hath it ? They answered and said, Ceasar's.

[25] And He said to them, Render, therefore, unto Ceasar the things which are Ceasar's, and unto God the things which are God's.

[26] And they could not take hold of His words before the people; and they marveled at His answer, and held their peace.

sadly, many 'christians' will believe this line and never know that theyve been duped by the muzzcomm...

the rightful 'authority' in the human gov here is the people, not the pharisees...and they will be unable to see the Truth, or act on it, until its too late...

33 posted on 02/02/2012 8:12:39 AM PST by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: mel; theBuckwheat; 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten; drypowder; throwback; MonicaG; jtal; WhatNot; ...
RE :”I swear if I was sitting in some of his speeches, I think I would laugh out loud at the absurdity of it all.
I don’t think I know I would
Melissa

Yep, if you really think about what he is saying it is stupid. However liberals really repeat this stuff and seem to believe it, although you can never tell for sure what people really believe in politics.

Obama hired Reverend Jim Wallace to pitch this progressive Jesus stuff.

Jesse Jackson has a weekly show on ‘The Word’ network and he has recently been preaching that progressive Jesus was for government forced economic justice (loved the poor, hated the rich) and Santa represents Christmas greed. Better yet he recently said that that Republicans opposing tax increases are the ‘money changers’ that Jesus threw out of the Jewish Temple. I am not kidding!

34 posted on 02/02/2012 8:21:05 AM PST by sickoflibs (You MUST support the lesser of two RINOs or we all die!)
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To: sickoflibs

“Those who will not work shall not eat.” —St. Paul

Full context: http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2%20Thessalonians+3&version=NIV


35 posted on 02/02/2012 8:22:02 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: Adder; sickoflibs
Jesus made his own fish, bread and wine....IIRC.

not only that, but He also used those fishes as His own printing press...

paging helicopter ben...

36 posted on 02/02/2012 8:22:02 AM PST by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: sickoflibs

Better yet he recently said that that Republicans opposing tax increases are the ‘money changers’ that Jesus threw out of the Jewish Temple. I am not kidding!


Yep - that’s my point as I’m sure you noticed. The 2012 reelect zero strategy is good ol’ Jew baiting. All you had to do was watch the “Occupy” “Movement” to figure this out.


37 posted on 02/02/2012 8:30:45 AM PST by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: sickoflibs

Perhaps the Muslim-in-Chief should keep his conversations to something, or someBODY he actually knows. I pray he comes to know Jesus Christ as God, and as his savior and Lord.


38 posted on 02/02/2012 8:34:52 AM PST by trillabodilla (Jesus Saves)
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To: sickoflibs

Someone should ask Obama what Jesus would say about abortion.


39 posted on 02/02/2012 8:36:04 AM PST by GreenHornet
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Republicans opposing tax increases are the ‘money changers’ that Jesus threw out of the Jewish Temple. I am not kidding!

just...WOW...

that comparison would more easily be represented by the avg politician and wall street bigwigs...

The Lord didnt kick em out for using the current system to make a buck, rather He kicked em out [and remember Jesus was a 1st century carpenter, so prolly strong as an ox hands/upper body] for defiling the temple...simple blasphemy at its root...

the folks doing the 'buying' of said animals, were sposed to be bringing their own sacrifices, not just generic coins...

40 posted on 02/02/2012 8:48:43 AM PST by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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