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Marijuana Myths
TheCollegeConservative ^ | 02/03/2012 | Alan Groves

Posted on 02/03/2012 10:57:07 AM PST by gabriellah

In 2011, Gallup reported that 62% of 18-29 year olds and 50% of the general public supports the legalization of marijuana; 69% of liberals and even 34% of conservatives also support such measures. Obviously the pro-pot movement has taken root in the American populace and especially in the minds of Millennials (even managing to infiltrate the minds of the most conservative among us).

Myth #1: Legalization Would bring in Enormous Tax Revenues

The Heritage Foundation’s Charles Stimson published an extensive legal memorandum urging for the failure of the RCTC Act of 2010, which would have legalized pot in California. This memorandum debunks the myth that legalization would eliminate the black market for marijuana and would bring in enormous revenue, therefore stimulating the economy.

Dr. Rosalie Pacula, a drug policy expert at the RAND Corporation for over 15 years, testified that under the California law: “There would be tremendous profit motive for the existing black market providers to stay in the market. The only way California could effectively eliminate the black market for marijuana is to take away the substantial profits in the market and allow the price of marijuana to fall to an amount close to the cost of production. Doing so, however, will mean substantially smaller tax revenue”(Stimson 9).

In other words, simple economics expose the assumption that drug dealers would voluntarily enter the legal market, when the cost of production is virtually zero. In fact, it was calculated that “an individual will be able to produce 24,000 to 240,000 joints legally each year” (Stimson 9). This is more than any individual could possibly consume, and it is encouraging individuals to sell pot on the side, subverting taxation. Why would anyone buy marijuana legally when they would have to pay a higher price for it? It would be a much higher price considering California proposed a $50/ounce tax on top of the list price. Why would drug dealers leave the black market when they don’t have to?

Fiscal conservatives should not be lured into such intellectual inconsistency. We are not going to solve the budget crises and pay off our $15 trillion debt with whatever change is left from a feeble government attempt to tax the un-taxable.

Myth #2: Marijuana is a Victimless Drug

Marijuana has a history of being linked to crime in the United States and throughout the world. “60% of arrestees test positive for marijuana use in the United States, England, and Australia” (Stimson 6). And while many pro-legalization advocates argue that most of these marijuana users are people arrested for non-violent crimes, they fail to note that marijuana usage is strongly correlated with cocaine and other more serious drugs, as well as murder, assault, money laundering, and smuggling (Stimson 5-6). Surely, legalization advocates do not believe that all marijuana users are little angels?

In fact, in Amsterdam, one of Europe’s most violent cities, pot is legal and a prevalent aspect of society (Stimson 6). Heritage reports that “Officials are in the process of closing marijuana dispensaries, or ‘coffee shops,’ because of the crime associated with their operation” (Stimson 6).

California’s partial legalization via usage of “medical marijuana” is beginning to show the same effects. LAPD reports that areas surrounding cannabis clubs have seen a 200% increase in robberies and a 130.8% increase in aggravated assault (Stimson 6). A drug that increases crime doesn’t exactly qualify as “victimless.”

In addition to this, local communities where neighborhoods and residential housing are dominant will be adversely affected. Residents who live in areas with extensive marijuana usage have repeatedly complained about the incredible smell put off by the plants. Even worse than the smell though, is the growing crime rate in residential areas which is induced by theft of marijuana from yards where it is grown (Stimson 6).

It may be ideologically convenient for some to oversimplify the issue as a violation against individual liberty, but when all the facts are presented, it is obvious that the only liberty being violated is the blatant disregard for property rights, law, and order.

Myth #3: Marijuana = Alcohol

Legalization advocates link marijuana and alcohol as equally mild intoxicants, suggesting that they deserve equal treatment under the law. However, as the above research suggests, marijuana is more dangerous to the health and safety of society.

For better or for worse, alcohol as been part of human history for millennia. Typically, individuals responsibly self-monitor their consumption thereof. Alcohol has also been regulated by cultural norms rather than by government. Society, culture, and religion have proven to be the best regulators of alcoholic consumption. The same cannot be said of marijuana – as seen in the information presented earlier.

In addition to its lack of historical precedent in America’s historical experience, marijuana also has much more severe health effects than alcohol. 1) marijuana is far more likely than alcohol to be cause addiction, 2) it is usually consumed to the point of intoxication, 3) it has no known intrinsically healthful properties (it can only relieve pain –and artificially at that), 4) it has toxins that can result in birth defects, pain, respiratory damage, brain damage, and stroke, 5) it increases heart rate by 20% to 100% elevating the risk of heart attack (Stimson 4).

In relation to history, economics, and health, marijuana is nothing like alcohol.

Conclusion: Conservatives should not be afraid to combat the growing sentiment that supports the legalization of marijuana. Economics, historical precedent, and conservative principles are all on our side. It is up to unashamed, unapologetic young conservatives to articulate that message and continue to stand for ordered liberty.


TOPICS: Government; Health/Medicine; Politics
KEYWORDS: anslingersghost; drugs; drugwarnazis; jackbootedthugs; marijuana; reefermadness; wod; wodlist; wosd
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1 posted on 02/03/2012 10:57:08 AM PST by gabriellah
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To: gabriellah

Are they distinguishing “medical” usage from “recreational” usage? I would be for the former but not for the later.


2 posted on 02/03/2012 10:59:16 AM PST by sigzero
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To: gabriellah
I just had to laugh at this one... Marijuana has a history of being linked to crime in the United States and throughout the world..,p. And Alcohol isn't? Truth is that legalization would suck the wind right out of the sails of the narco-terrorists just as it did to the mop that controlled alcohol during prohibition.
3 posted on 02/03/2012 11:02:11 AM PST by rightwingextremist1776
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To: sigzero
You can't legalize drugs without putting a lot of cops and prison guards out of work.

Can't have that happen, can we?

4 posted on 02/03/2012 11:02:19 AM PST by starlifter (Pullum sapit)
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To: sigzero

The former would lead to the later. I’m not for either.


5 posted on 02/03/2012 11:02:19 AM PST by bgill (The Obama administration is staging a coup. Wake up, America, before it's too late.)
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To: gabriellah
For better or for worse, alcohol as been part of human history for millennia.

And so has cannabis.

6 posted on 02/03/2012 11:03:03 AM PST by svcw (For the new year: you better toughen up, if you are going to continue to be stupid.)
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To: sigzero
In empirical reality, the distinction is meaningless.

"Medical" users are recreational users with paperwork from prescription mills.

7 posted on 02/03/2012 11:03:08 AM PST by wideawake
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To: gabriellah
Of the many falsehoods in this article, the following may be the most glaring:

"marijuana is far more likely than alcohol to be cause addiction"

Exactly the opposite is true: according to research cited by the National Academy of Sciences' Institute of Medicine, of all those who ever used marijuana, 9% have at some point been addicted to it - whereas the corresponding figure for alcohol is 15%.

8 posted on 02/03/2012 11:06:42 AM PST by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: rightwingextremist1776
Truth is that legalization would suck the wind right out of the sails of the narco-terrorists just as it did to the mop that controlled alcohol during prohibition.

If a person of reasonable intelligence thinks about the issue for more than five seconds, he will realize that legalization will have no meaningful impact on "the narco-terrorists" - just as the end of Prohibition had negligible impact on organized crime in America.

Unless you are prepared to argue that the mob ceased to exist on December 5, 1933.

9 posted on 02/03/2012 11:07:02 AM PST by wideawake
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To: gabriellah
An issue not usually addressed is that many occupations, such as oil and gas work, require by law, drug testing. And for good reasons. So assuming those safety requirements stay on they books, we have an another society polarizing effect. Those who are cool or at least cool to it and those that aren't, as the saying went. Can I enjoy a concert filled with pot smoke if I am subject to losing my job if I fail a wiz quiz? Considering the hate towards tobacco smoke these days, what's it going to be in public places against the smell of burning rope? Legalizing may still mean some boundaries exist but it is more likely that people who don't care for smoke will be affected if pot is more prevalent. Now if people would go to hookah houses or eat marijuana brownies that might work.
10 posted on 02/03/2012 11:08:11 AM PST by dblshot (Insanity: electing the same people over and over and expecting different results.)
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To: gabriellah

Drugs are a tax on your health.


11 posted on 02/03/2012 11:10:27 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: sigzero

There is much evidence that THC has medical benefits. (Kaiser did a ten year study, showing that people with medial of various sort, or are effective negatively from some treatments had relief). I can’t figure out why there aren’t pills or creams or whatever available for people who might be able to benefit.


12 posted on 02/03/2012 11:12:09 AM PST by svcw (For the new year: you better toughen up, if you are going to continue to be stupid.)
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To: wideawake
the end of Prohibition had negligible impact on organized crime in America.

Unless you are prepared to argue that the mob ceased to exist on December 5, 1933.

False dichotomy - there is a spectrum of outcomes between "negligible impact" and "ceased to exist."

That being so, the burden of proof falls on the one making the claim. Where is the evidence for your claim that "the end of Prohibition had negligible impact on organized crime in America"?

13 posted on 02/03/2012 11:12:25 AM PST by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: gabriellah
That Heritage Foundation article is simply outstanding.
 
It's long. But read it. Read it now.
 
Legalizing Marijuana: Why Citizens Should Just Say No
 
 
It is beyond belief that there are so many liberals here at FR who want to legalize this.


14 posted on 02/03/2012 11:13:59 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (Newt or else. What part of "Join or Die" don't you understand?)
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To: dblshot
Can I enjoy a concert filled with pot smoke if I am subject to losing my job if I fail a wiz quiz?

Wow, I haven't been to a concert where anybody was allowed to smoke anything in years. Get smashed - You bet but smoke tobacco or cannibus or anything else? Not a chance. Where are you going?

15 posted on 02/03/2012 11:14:23 AM PST by rhombus
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To: gabriellah
In fact, in Amsterdam, one of Europe’s most violent cities, pot is legal and a prevalent aspect of society (Stimson 6). Heritage reports that “Officials are in the process of closing marijuana dispensaries, or ‘coffee shops,’ because of the crime associated with their operation” (Stimson 6).

Stupid

Amsterdam's crime is from Islamic immigrants who I doubt are big pot heads

In addition to its lack of historical precedent in America’s historical experience, marijuana also has much more severe health effects than alcohol. 1) marijuana is far more likely than alcohol to be cause addiction, 2) it is usually consumed to the point of intoxication, 3) it has no known intrinsically healthful properties (it can only relieve pain –and artificially at that), 4) it has toxins that can result in birth defects, pain, respiratory damage, brain damage, and stroke, 5) it increases heart rate by 20% to 100% elevating the risk of heart attack (Stimson 4).

Everything in the above is flat out lie

I haven't smoked pot in 10+ years and have no desire to do so again, but come on now, if you have to resort to half truths, distortions and flat out lies like those found in this article, then it's really time to reexamine your position.

Who ever wrote this tripe is an embarrassment to Conservatives, regardless of which position you take. Liberals use tactics and lies like this, not Conservatives

16 posted on 02/03/2012 11:14:35 AM PST by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: gabriellah
This must have been published in The Onion. It's hysterical, the logic is flawed in all of the arguments, but "mythbuster" #3 is downright absurd.

Alcohol has destroyed more lives, destroyed more families, been responsible for more abused wives, abused children and general violent crime and killed more people--either directly or indirectly--than all the other drugs combined.

You can't successfully legislate behavior or morality and attempting to do so only increases criminality and scorn for the law.

Legalization is one of the areas where libertarians are right.
17 posted on 02/03/2012 11:14:52 AM PST by Sudetenland (Anybody but Obama!!!!)
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To: gabriellah

The conclusion is not supported by the “facts” ... In no place in the USA can someone grow their own supply free from threat of arrest ,, that keeps the bad elements involved and the price high (creating the crime in myth#2) ... Marijuana is not Alcohol (myth#3) , marijuana is far more benign... especially if the price were low enough where people could afford to use it in ways other than the most efficient (smoking) ... cooking or heated inhalation devices ...

The biggest fraud in this “study” is the arrest statistics ... sure a large percentage of people arrested test positive ... it is a fat soluable drug ... you could use crack or meth and test “clean” the next day where 6 months later you will test positive for THC.

P.S. before the “smart people” chime in ... I don’t use.


18 posted on 02/03/2012 11:16:17 AM PST by Neidermeyer
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To: Responsibility2nd
Now we know where the blogger got this lie: "marijuana is far more likely to cause addiction". See post#8 for the truth.
19 posted on 02/03/2012 11:17:35 AM PST by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: gabriellah

Fact from direct sources in California prisons. The violent offenders LOVE their pot.


20 posted on 02/03/2012 11:19:00 AM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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