Skip to comments.Judge Malihi Rules Against Plaintiffs: Says Obama Born In Hawaii Therefore Natural Born Citizen
Posted on 02/03/2012 2:19:38 PM PST by GregNH
We just spoke with plaintiff Kevin Powell and he reports Judge Malihi has ruled against the Plaintiffs and stated in his order that Obama was born in Hawaii and therefore Obama is a natural born Citizen.
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>>...It never did. This was just some garbage that birthers made up...<<
Legally through court precedence and in defiance of common-sense, perhaps “NBC” is defined oddly.
If Canadian parents snuck over the border just long enough to drop a kid, what birthright citizenships and allegiances could that child claim? Perhaps Canadian and US?
If a child was born in the US of one US citizen and one German citizen, what birthright citizenships and allegiances could that child claim? Perhaps German and US?
If a child is born on US soil of two US citizens, what other birthright citizenships and allegiances could that child **possibly** claim? I’d say that child was *NATURALLY* a US citizen with *NO* other natural birth allegiances.
To argue that the founding fathers, intended for anyone with a foreign birth allegiance to become POTUS is silly in the extreme, else why differentiate between “Natural Born Citizen” for President and just “Citizen” otherwise? It’s similar mental gymnastics that gun-haters attempt when they try to define the word “People” in the phrase “the right of the people” in the 2nd amendment as meaning something entirely different than the word “people” in any other amendment.
You may feel the courts are infallible. I don’t. It’s too easy to prove they defy common sense in many occasions. “Wickard v. Filburn” anyone?
Of course we understand the political aspects idiot.
Just like we did in Kelo, Lawrence, Filburn, Dred Scott and a host of many others.
You don't think those decisions had a political component as well?
Does that make them the right decisions?
What other issues should we just remain silent on because there are political ramifications....obamacare?
Will you celebrate that win for obama too because it was political?
Why is it you are ALWAYS on a NBC thread and telling others to get over it? Why are you so obsessed about it?
Obama is a crappy president and can be defeated by talking about real issues.
Oh gee, a crappy president. What are you doing here? And who the h*** would want to talk to you about any issue. It's good when posters expose who they are.
Gingrich has pledged that he will clean up the judicial system. Here is a chance for him to show he means it -
In GA, obama shows utter contempt to the court in the ballot access challenge. He failed to show up as ordered. He went around the court to pressure the SOS!
This is a nation of laws. NO ONE is above the law. Obama has been utterly contemptuous towards our laws!
Gingrich must blast obama’s lawlessness! If he is too cowardly to hold obama to his lawlessness he is not serious about revamping the justice system!
Please write to Gingrich. All he has to do is, at the next debate, cite the fact that obama shows utter contempt to the court by not showing up as summoned on 1/26/12 to show why he should have access to the GA ballot.
NO president has ever shown such contempt for the court/law!
Gingrich will get standing ovation for doing that! And shock them all!!!
Treasonous globalist complicit idiots.
I wonder how many are . . . members of a secret society.
The Constitution is dead.
Freedom is dead.
I’ve had a bad day and this is just the perfect ending./sarc
Glad I’ve got more years in back of me than in front.
So...The thing to do is prepare for when the SHTF, because it is inevitably coming. The only glue that has held our nation's experiment in self-rule together is the basic morality, honesty, and good will of the citizenry. That glue is no longer there.
The flag should never be displayed with the union down, except as a signal of dire distress in instances of extreme danger to life or property.
What kind of name is Malihi? Hawaiian?
Sh!t, no judge is going to touch this. Not Scalia, Roberts, Thomas, Alito and certainly none of the other panty waste.
Face it, we're experiencing a coup and no one in power has the fortitude to stand up.
Because he/they are GOP-E or worse.
No body will stand up because they know as someone else posted earlier, cities will burn. They don’t want to be plastered by the lamestream to be responsible for that.
Mark Hatfield, one of the attorneys who, along with Van Irion, focused on the issue of the definition of natural born citizen, said the judge ignored the issue of burden of proof.
If Obama has the burden of proof, and failed to show up, clearly he didnt carry the burden, he told WND. The judge here completely ignores that.
He also noted it was highly unusual for a judge to reach into another states repository of court rulings to fetch something that would be supportive of the result when the U.S. Supreme Court itself has made a determination.
He said hes hoping the Georgia secretary of state will evaluate the issue carefully, but hes prepared to take the dispute to the appeals level.
. US citizen doesn't mean natural born and one doesn't have to be a natural born to be a senator.
No, Red, he didn’t screw up. The whole basis of Irion’s argument on the definition of NBC was based on the fact that Senior is listed on the Hawaiian BC as Junior’s father. He submitted the BC into evidence and pointed out that Senior was born in Kenya. Then he moved on to the immigration records to establish that Senior was not a U.S. citizen.
No, it only means the judge ignored the made-up birther definition.
They did it to exclude naturalized citizens. They were thinking of the situation, which was not uncommon in those days (think of William and Mary), of the royalty from one country coming to another country to rule.
If the “judge” was previously willing to rule for the plantiffs because Hussein was too busy extorting campaign funds to show, and now ruled in his favor, it means that someone got to him big time. That also means that regardless of how the vote goes in November, Hussein has no intention of vacating the office he usurps. The fix is in.
And I’m not arguing anything to the contrary. I provided that statement as evidence that Irion did indeed stipulate to Obama’s birth in Hawaii. Nothing more, nothing less.
The judge in Georgia has just, effectively stated that the heir apparent to the French crown is now eligible.
I believe this is precisely the situation the framers were concerned about when they changed the requirement during the summer of 1787 from "citizen" to "natural born Citizen."
Then as another poster mentioned, we have become a nation of men, not law.
The plaintiffs got to him. The rejected a default judgment because they wanted a hearing on the merits of their case.
The thing to do is prepare for when the SHTF, because it is inevitably coming...
Chapo and his twin girls will love that ruling
Relying on an Indiana POS ruling, what a cop out.
"The Indiana Court rejected the argument that Mr. Obama was ineligible, stating thatI believe the Indiana ruling was blatantly "insincere" to allow its prompt overturning.
children born within the United States are natural born citizens, regardless of the citizenship of their parents."
“...dismiss the Plaintiffs exhibits for their failure to follow standard rules of evidence...”
I’m just blowing smoke out of my ears!!!!
THEY “fail” to follow standard rules, and yet Bath-House Barry and his no-show “attorney” spit in Malihi’s face and there are NO CONSEQUENCES!!!
Until this past week there was never a plaintiff with standing and a trial on the merits with a path to SCOTUS and Barry has never allowed legal discovery of a physical certified BC, either long or short form, so this ruling is the first time that this potentially damaging “finding of fact” has been established in a case that can be appealed to SCOTUS.
Yes, Ankeny’s interpretaion of WKA that you prefer won the day with Malihi, but success of this interpretation of WKA is not certain to be affirmed ultimately by SCOTUS, IMO.
We shall see...
Secretary of State Brian Kemp, who earlier warned Obama and his attorney that to snub the Georgia court system would be at Obamas peril.
Bwahhhhhh. Too funny.
The Dear Reader flipped Georgia, the judge, and SOS the bird.
Oh my, what peril Dear Reader has had to endure indeed.
what does that have to do with your obsession with O’s birth cert?
calling me a moron does not make you any less of an ass.
Malihis opinion allows that the U.S. born offspring of foreign monarchs are eligible to serve as our nations commander in chief precisely and quite clearly what the founders sought to avoid in Art. II.
It will get straightened out one way or the other.
Irion could have presented other ways to the court about Obama’s claims his father was a Kenyan citizen without presenting that Internet picture.
Still, the judge should have accepted it as ‘limited evidence’ but by accepting the dubious BC as complete prima facie fact is disingenuous. We should all use .jpg images of our BCs the next time we go for a drivers license and see how far that gets us.
“Enjoying my victory? Are you serious?! This is not a victory.”
I think Smokeyblue may be confusing you with Tex-Con-Man. Not the first time it’s happened either, IIRC.
TCM: Courtesy Ping.
Well said dear Lady....even worse is that the electoral process seems to be in about the same shape.
I’m not all that surprised. The rot is deep in our system of Justice.
You mean the same Heritage Foundation that was advocating for a federal healthcare mandate before they were against it?
What makes you think this is on a path to the Supreme Court?
And why would anyone think something Obama has admitted his entire life needs a finding of the court to be considered?
How does this rejection - and for the record, I was hoping Obama would be removed from the ballot, which WOULD have set up a Supreme Court decision - help the birther case in any way?
“Yes, Ankenys interpretaion of WKA that you prefer won the day with Malihi, but success of this interpretation of WKA is not certain to be affirmed ultimately by SCOTUS, IMO.”
It’s about as certain as anything human gets.
My apologies, I had not read your #222 when I posted my #232.
The absurdity of Malihi’s outrageous opinion is no doubt clear to most FReepers, and should be clear to our elected reps and all who swore to defend the Constitution.
What happened to Leo’s amicus brief? Was it ever submitted?
No I’m not confused. I’ve been reading his posts on the eligibility threads since 2008. That is my opinion.
By the way, all the Obama lovers have come out to gloat on this thread.
Beyond a certain point, denial never stops. There is always another recourse available in fantasy land.
Go back sleep, no wonder you come on here and yawn.
This issue isn't about his BC.... and you wonder why you might be referred to as a moron, moron.
And as far as being an ass, you can kiss it.
Are you gloating?
Right. I responded to what ‘it’ said and not you specifically. So they are saying all citizens born in the US are natural born citizens completely opposite of what the Constitution says. And the reason they made a distinction is the reason we have this problem today. Yep, America as we know it is over - $old out because man are lovers of themselves first not our country. And all by design.
“By the way, all the Obama lovers have come out to gloat on this thread.”
They are going to be hit up-side the head with reality real soon—they support a figurehead for evil people who want to destroy America. They’ll soon be stunned, wondering “What happened? Where’s my check?”
And, as much as we’ll have better things to do when TSHTF, I’m going to set aside time to enjoy gloating—not very Christian I know, but I’m gonna ENJOY gloating.