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Army Silenced Chaplains Last Sunday (about HHS mandate on abortion)
The Corner/National Review ^ | February 3 | Kathryn Jean Lopez

Posted on 02/03/2012 7:25:56 PM PST by PghBaldy

In Catholic churches across the country, parishioners were read letters from the pulpit this weekend from bishops in their diocese about the mandate from the Department of Health and Human Services giving Catholics a year before they’ll be required to start violating their consciences on insurance coverage for contraception, sterilization, and abortifacient drugs. But not in the Army.

A statement released this afternoon — which happens to be the 67th anniversary of the sinking of the USS Dorchester, on which four chaplains lost their lives – from the Archdiocese for Military Services explains:

(Excerpt) Read more at nationalreview.com ...


TOPICS: Government; Military/Veterans; Religion
KEYWORDS: abortion; army; catholic; hhs
I do wonder who in the Obama Admin thought this was a good idea to push during an election year? How exactly would it help him? He won the Catholic vote in 2008, but even before this, it would have been an uphill climb this year (as with most groups excluding blacks). This is just so ham-fisted.
1 posted on 02/03/2012 7:26:03 PM PST by PghBaldy
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To: PghBaldy

Only gays, Wiccans, Commies and Muzzies get free speech in the military


2 posted on 02/03/2012 7:28:04 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: PghBaldy

He is probably confident he will be opposed by Bishop Willard Romney. That will be more of a distraction than a struggle, so why not continue to push this? Besides, Bishop Willard Romney is the father of American tax payer funded abortion, so there will be little he could say about it without looking absurd.


3 posted on 02/03/2012 7:30:09 PM PST by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans. Don't read their lips. Watch their hands.)
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To: PghBaldy
"Additionally, the line: “We cannot — we will not — comply with this unjust law” was removed by Archbishop Broglio at the suggestion of Secretary McHugh over the concern that it could potentially be misunderstood as a call to civil disobedience."

Nothing to be misunderstood. In my view it was a clear call for civil disobedience. It's exactly what we should do in the face of this heinous mandate.



Etiam non princeps sed usque ad genua, Principis Pacis!

Listen, O isles, unto me; and hearken, ye people, from far; The LORD hath called me from the womb; from the bowels of my mother hath he made mention of my name. (Isaiah 49:1 KJV)

4 posted on 02/03/2012 7:32:12 PM PST by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines RVN 1969 - St. Michael the Archangel defend us in Battle!)
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To: PghBaldy

I should add that Lightworker Obama seems to be deliberately driving good people out of the military, or getting them killed. A changing of the guard for obvious reasons, IMO.


5 posted on 02/03/2012 7:33:33 PM PST by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans. Don't read their lips. Watch their hands.)
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To: Psalm 144

A real lightbringer, 0bama is.


6 posted on 02/03/2012 7:37:47 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: GeronL

The only people with free speech under the Obama Regime are homosexuals, witches, Commies and Islamofascists.


7 posted on 02/03/2012 7:38:42 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: PghBaldy

Then, broadcast the text of this letter far and wide, on military and military-friendly sites. First, they came for the unborn. Now, they come for the Catholics:

“Via Business Insider, the full letter from the Bishop of Marquette, read in church Sunday, is below.

Dear Brothers and Sisters in Christ:

I write to you concerning an alarming and serious matter that negatively impacts the Church in the United States directly, and that strikes at the fundamental right to religious liberty for all citizens of any faith. The federal government, which claims to be “of, by, and for the people,” has just been dealt a heavy blow to almost a quarter of those people — the Catholic population — and to the millions more who are served by the Catholic faithful.

The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services announced last week that almost all employers, including Catholic employers, will be forced to offer their employees’ health coverage that includes sterilization, abortion-inducing drugs, and contraception. Almost all health insurers will be forced to include those “services” in the health policies they write. And almost all individuals will be forced to buy that coverage as a part of their policies.

In so ruling, the Obama Administration has cast aside the First Amendment to the Constitution of the United States, denying to Catholics our Nation’s first and most fundamental freedom, that of religious liberty. And as a result, unless the rule is overturned, we Catholics will be compelled to either violate our consciences, or to drop health coverage for our employees (and suffer the penalties for doing so). The Obama Administration’s sole concession was to give our institutions one year to comply.

We cannot—we will not—comply with this unjust law. People of faith cannot be made second class citizens. We are already joined by our brothers and sisters of all faiths and many others of good will in this important effort to regain our religious freedom. Our parents and grandparents did not come to these shores to help build America’s cities and towns, its infrastructure and institutions, its enterprise and culture, only to have their posterity stripped of their God given rights. In generations past, the Church has always been able to count on the faithful to stand up and protect her sacred rights and duties. I hope and trust she can count on this generation of Catholics to do the same. Our children and grandchildren deserve nothing less.

And therefore, I would ask of you two things. First, as a community of faith we must commit ourselves to prayer and fasting that wisdom and justice may prevail, and religious liberty may be restored. Without God, we can do nothing; with God, nothing is impossible. Second, I would also recommend visiting www.usccb.org/conscience, to learn more about this severe assault on religious liberty, and how to contact Congress in support of legislation that would reverse the Obama Administration’s decision.

Sincerely yours in Christ,

+Alexander K. Sample
Most Reverend Alexander K. Sample
Bishop of Marquette”


8 posted on 02/03/2012 7:43:27 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: combat_boots

Yup. Looks like a real angel of light.


9 posted on 02/03/2012 7:45:35 PM PST by Psalm 144 (Governor Rick Perry did the right thing, for the right reasons, at the right time. Thank you, sir.)
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To: GeronL
Only gays, Wiccans, Commies and Muzzies get free speech in the military

Which is one of the reasons why I left the military chaplain assistant job I had many years ago. When they told me I'd have to support satanic worship services I balked, told them no way would I do that, and thus ended my military career.

10 posted on 02/03/2012 8:27:24 PM PST by ducttape45
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To: ducttape45

“When they told me I’d have to support satanic worship services I balked, told them no way would I do that, and thus ended my military career. “

Bless you, Sir.


11 posted on 02/03/2012 8:38:39 PM PST by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: ducttape45

Do you mind me asking how many years ago? Just curious.


12 posted on 02/03/2012 8:47:35 PM PST by PghBaldy (Person at RP's “Campaign for Liberty”, sold "Protocols of Elders of Zion" for 3 years on C4L site)
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To: muawiyah
Hey now, stop including “witches” with that decidedly anti-USA grouping of ignorant idiots, advocates of true evil, and the tiny minority of one specific human sexual pervert group YOUR society elevated to an “important minority” worthy of attention, soley due to their sexual perversions.

Nothing in the long histories of pagans, witches and deists have ever indicated a tolerance for any of the above.

And pagans/witches/deists have been denied “free speech” for several tens of centuries.Even in the USA.

13 posted on 02/03/2012 9:40:31 PM PST by sarasmom
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To: ConorMacNessa

Humm

Careful my FRiend

You might be calling for a “peaceful” civil disobedience.

Tell you what

Lets call it occupy something.

Maybe we should occupy the peoples house


14 posted on 02/03/2012 9:51:44 PM PST by Steve Newton (And the Wolves will learn what we have shown before-We love our sheep we dogs of war. Vaughn)
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To: dagogo redux

Now

That is a shame

I honor you for your standards


15 posted on 02/03/2012 9:53:46 PM PST by Steve Newton (And the Wolves will learn what we have shown before-We love our sheep we dogs of war. Vaughn)
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To: Psalm 144

Hum

If that is the case it is treason of the highest order


16 posted on 02/03/2012 10:00:47 PM PST by Steve Newton (And the Wolves will learn what we have shown before-We love our sheep we dogs of war. Vaughn)
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To: PghBaldy
The One sees no downside to his actions, and a possible upside in trashing Catholics, the most easily trashed of all religious groups that sold out their principles for a piece of his "hope and change".

This is actually a bigger victory than even Bill Clinton hoped for when, as chaplain-in-chief, he ordered all military chaplains to not preach against abortion. So instead, they preached about his ham-handed orders, giving him a black eye that required massive coverup so nobody would notice.

This time, 0bama and his oh-so-clever minions play with "cute" definitions, and aim it against what they hope will be the most despised religion in America, Roman Catholicism. Never mind that it's an assault against the First Amendment's freedom of religion, freedom of speech, and freedom of conscience, he's offering an easy out to other groups, that for whatever reason, take the same position as Catholics. "Keep quiet, and we'll accept your surrender in silence later".

This is what to expect from a bunch of elitists who figure they are the pinnacle of human progress, and rule over us while the untermensch still have a role in their plans.

17 posted on 02/03/2012 10:01:16 PM PST by 300winmag (Overkill Never Fails)
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To: combat_boots

Yes

A line has been crossed. It will not stand. Time to teach people that they can only go so far.

This is it.

No more and no further.


18 posted on 02/03/2012 10:05:00 PM PST by Steve Newton (And the Wolves will learn what we have shown before-We love our sheep we dogs of war. Vaughn)
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To: 300winmag

I agree

Too far

Time to put a stop in to it


19 posted on 02/03/2012 10:06:58 PM PST by Steve Newton (And the Wolves will learn what we have shown before-We love our sheep we dogs of war. Vaughn)
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To: PghBaldy

I exited the military in 1992. It was either 1991 or 1992 the events I spoke of transpired.


20 posted on 02/04/2012 8:03:01 AM PST by ducttape45
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To: dagogo redux

Thank you.


21 posted on 02/04/2012 8:06:00 AM PST by ducttape45
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To: ducttape45

Thank you. I don’t know how they can ask people to do that, considering Satanism is by definition the polar opposite of Christianity.


22 posted on 02/04/2012 8:48:21 AM PST by PghBaldy (Person at RP's “Campaign for Liberty”, sold "Protocols of Elders of Zion" for 3 years on C4L site)
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To: narses

Hi, I know you know about the other thread here: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2842409/posts

but thought to ping you nonetheless.


23 posted on 02/04/2012 9:00:36 AM PST by PghBaldy (Person at RP's “Campaign for Liberty”, sold "Protocols of Elders of Zion" for 3 years on C4L site)
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To: PghBaldy
You know, I wish I could say my decision didn't come without consequences, but it did. So your thanks is much appreciated.

It's too bad that the 9 chaplains sitting around the table couldn't have spoke up, but this little ole E-5 SSgt was the only one who did. After that it was "get rid of SSgt Kelley" any way possible and they did. But you know what, I wouldn't have done any differently if faced with that situation again.

Side note on this; one of those other "chaplains" (and I use that term loosely because in my opinion they weren't real men of God) came up to me afterwards and thanked me for speaking up. But he said that he couldn't because it would have "cost him a promotion and possibly his career."

Sigh......................

24 posted on 02/04/2012 12:41:30 PM PST by ducttape45
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