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Will Mitt Romney Repeal Obamacare?
Natural Born Conservative ^ | February 5, 2012 | Larry Walker, Jr.

Posted on 02/05/2012 9:07:49 PM PST by NaturalBornConservative

* Does a President have that authority?

* By: Larry Walker, Jr. *

In his Nevada victory speech, Mitt Romney once again publicly declared, “I will repeal Obamacare”. How so? Will Willard Mitt Romney single-handedly repeal Obamacare?

Although I am in favor of repealing Obamacare, and replacing it with a free-market solution, the last time I checked the Constitution, I wasn’t able to locate any passage granting the President of the United States the sole authority for repealing any law. Frankly I’m tired of hearing the same old false promise over and over again.

The truth is that in order to repeal or amend any federal legislation, Congress is required to follow the same procedures used in passing any new legislation. In other words, a new bill must be introduced by Congress either repealing or amending the existing law, and then it must pass both Houses of Congress, before being signed by the President.

So although the currently Republican controlled House of Representatives would favor repeal, the Democratic controlled Senate would not. And unless the Republican Party is able to win the presidency, along with a substantial majority in the Senate, while maintaining its present majority in the House; Mitt Romney won’t be repealing anything (i.e. He won’t be signing any repeal legislation.). As far as I’m concerned it’s just words.

What's disheartening is that while Romney has made this bold proclamation publicly, literally hundreds of times, offstage as Ben Domenech notes in his Transom, Mitt Romney’s advisors have now advised him to support not repealing Obamacare. Norm Coleman, an advisor to Romney, went on record saying:

“We’re not going to do repeal. You’re not going to repeal Obamacare… It’s not a total repeal… You will not repeal the act in its entirety, but you will see major changes, particularly if there is a Republican president… You can’t whole-cloth throw it out. But you can substantially change what’s been done.”

Now I took Romney’s ridiculous blurb about fixing any holes in the safety net that exists for the very poor, for whom he is otherwise unconcerned, as a joke. Thanks Mitt, for keeping the very poor out of the way, and in everlasting poverty [sarcasm]! But his ongoing pandering plea to conservatives, that giving him the nomination will somehow empower a president Romney to repeal Obamacare, or any other law, is outright dishonest.

It’s hard to see how Romney’s practice of discrediting Newt Gingrich, alienating hundreds of thousands of Reagan conservatives in the process, can aid in the party’s winning or maintaining substantial majorities in both houses of Congress, let alone winning the presidency. I haven’t heard Romney mention anything about that. All I’ve heard him ramble on lately is what he will do by his lonesome, whether or not it’s reasonably possible, or even constitutional.

But aside from that, in the remote possibility that Republicans were able to win substantial majorities in both Houses along with a Romney presidency, what would a Romney Administration replace Obamacare with? Wouldn’t we just wind up with fifty state-run Romneycare’s?

Talk is cheap. Dishonesty is worthless.

That’s right, lie to us Mitt. For we must defeat Obama at all costs – even if that means deceiving and destroying the Conservative movement, in the process. Will a real conservative please stand up and challenge this walking disaster before it’s too late?

Related: Mitt Romney’s Pro-Immigration Rant


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: deathcare4u; election; gingrich; liarromney; obamacare; romney; romney4deathcare; romney4deathpanels; romney4obamacare; romney4romneycare; romneycare4u; romneytheliar

1 posted on 02/05/2012 9:08:01 PM PST by NaturalBornConservative
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To: NaturalBornConservative

I don’t know why someone (other than me and you) doesn’t point this out. It’s like this huge lie that is uttered constantly and everyone seems to just accept it. Even Newt.

Why he doesn’t challenge Romney to give specifics as to how he will do this is beyond me. Some thing can be done by executive order, but not REPEAL of a law. So Mitt is lying.

The only path to repeal requires control of the House and Senate, which is something Newt talks often about.


2 posted on 02/05/2012 9:13:09 PM PST by bigbob
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To: bigbob

Yeah, but I think Newt said he would ask Congress to stay in session on January 3rd and pass a bill that he could sign on the first day, and that he would be presenting that bill to Congress in October, or something to that effect.


3 posted on 02/05/2012 9:17:49 PM PST by NaturalBornConservative ("Something that everyone knows isn't worth knowing" ~ Bernard Baruch)
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To: bigbob
The only path to repeal requires control of the House and Senate, which is something Newt talks often about.

Yep, Newt specifically discussed the legislative repeal of Obamacare in his "17 days before inauguration" speech.

4 posted on 02/05/2012 9:18:33 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it. (plagiarized))
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To: NaturalBornConservative
That Massachusetts liberal wrote Obamacare. He will say, promise, pay, and do anything to get elected. Like the gutless liberal RINOs before him, he will govern as an establishment liberal. No, he will not repeal Obamacare.
5 posted on 02/05/2012 9:18:52 PM PST by Proud2BeRight
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To: NaturalBornConservative

Man, that is a good point. I didn’t even think of it when he said it, but then I was rejecting him for the nomination.


6 posted on 02/05/2012 9:22:24 PM PST by Thorliveshere
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To: NaturalBornConservative

If you have to ask the question...


7 posted on 02/05/2012 9:25:42 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: NaturalBornConservative

Obamacare allows the president to issue waivers to its provisions, which Obama has so far done 1500 times.
What president Romney could do, legally, on Day 1 of his presidency, is to give the whole country a waiver. Which would, in practice, be repeal.


8 posted on 02/05/2012 9:30:42 PM PST by CivilWarguy
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To: NaturalBornConservative

he just wants to rename it


9 posted on 02/05/2012 9:35:19 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: bigbob

I think all 4 candidates have pretty much said the same thing..they will repeal Obamacare. So that ceases to be an issue among the candidates.


10 posted on 02/05/2012 9:36:23 PM PST by entropy12 (Socialism has failed everywhere tried. It breeds mediocrity, corruption, nepotism & poverty for all)
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To: entropy12

> I think all 4 candidates have pretty much said the same thing..they will repeal Obamacare. So that ceases to be an issue among the candidates.

Are you missing your /sarc tag?

Some GOP candidates said they’ll fight Obamacare, and mean it.

Other GOP candidate (plural omitted) was the FATHER of Obamacare.

Get it?


11 posted on 02/05/2012 10:07:51 PM PST by VictoryGal (Never give up, never surrender! REMEMBER NEDA)
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To: entropy12
I think all 4 candidates have pretty much said the same thing..they will repeal Obamacare. So that ceases to be an issue among the candidates.

Except, I believe Mitt has said there are parts worth keeping, and people all around Mitt have been saying that he won't repeal it.

So, who you going to believe; the serial liar Mitt Romney, or his people and his track record and his history which all point to one thing, Mitt ain't going to do squat.

The willing gullability of the normal GOP voter is simply atrocious.
12 posted on 02/05/2012 10:18:14 PM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: CivilWarguy
[What president Romney could do, legally, on Day 1 of his presidency, is to give the whole country a waiver. Which would, in practice, be repeal.]

Under the law, the President doesn't have the authority to grant waivers. One must apply for a waiver, and the waiver must then be reviewed and approved by HHS. A President cannot change a law by executive order.

13 posted on 02/05/2012 10:23:15 PM PST by NaturalBornConservative ("Something that everyone knows isn't worth knowing" ~ Bernard Baruch)
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To: bigbob

Since Mitt was before it before he was against it, and was the creator of govt mandated healthcare: highly unlikely.


14 posted on 02/05/2012 10:25:00 PM PST by Cincinna ( *** NOBAMA 2012 ***)
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To: NaturalBornConservative
I am diappointed, but NOT surprised, that all the pimps of the Election Industry, talk radio, MSM, consultants and politicians give so much credit/blame to CZAR B.O. for the Socialist initiatives that B.O. has signed into law.

These were passed by a Democrap Congress and are the essence of the Democrap Party. When I hear a politician (i.e. Candidate) say they will repeal any law, I know they are letting their mouth overload another extremity of their body.

That is why it is so important to educate voters on the importance of flushing the 21 Democrap Senators from office in the 2012 election (and also some RINOs). But they must be replaced by candidates sworn to uphold the Constitution and not merely seek office as an employment opportunity!
15 posted on 02/05/2012 10:31:17 PM PST by leprechaun9
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To: bigbob

Good point you make. And it will be very hard to repeal it even with control of the House and Senate. Even at that repeal will have a hard time finding a majority.


16 posted on 02/05/2012 10:35:07 PM PST by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: VictoryGal

You mean Romneycare? That is certainly an issue. And an important one. But I thought we are talking about repeal of Obamacare. If my memory serves me correctly, all 4 candidates have said they will repeal Obamacre. Whether you believe them is another issue. Who to believe? I believe no politician. They all say things we want to hear.


17 posted on 02/05/2012 10:51:09 PM PST by entropy12 (Socialism has failed everywhere tried. It breeds mediocrity, corruption, nepotism & poverty for all)
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To: CivilWarguy

Obamacare allows the president to issue waivers to its provisions, which Obama has so far done 1500 times.
What president Romney could do, legally, on Day 1 of his presidency, is to give the whole country a waiver. Which would, in practice, be repeal.


Except for the large group of new government employees already hired and now sitting on their collective asses pulling wages, using office space...

Except for the reams of paper, millions of desks, millions of computers.. Millions of square feet of office space...

This Monster is already out of the gate. An EO is not going to fix it. Even Newts plan may come to late to kill it.


18 posted on 02/05/2012 11:00:58 PM PST by cableguymn (Good thing I am a conservative. Otherwise I would have to support Mittens like Republicans do.)
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To: entropy12

You mean Romneycare? That is certainly an issue. And an important one. But I thought we are talking about repeal of Obamacare. If my memory serves me correctly, all 4 candidates have said they will repeal Obamacre. Whether you believe them is another issue. Who to believe? I believe no politician. They all say things we want to hear.


Do you really, honestly, deep down inside.. Think Romney would do anything to kill Obamacare?

Lets look at his record..

Oh look at that, he supported and pushed for Romneycare, It was his dream. His baby and its the father of Obamacare.

Now, do you think Romney would do anything to kill it? It is after all his grandson.

Did he do anything to kill Romneycare? No, he cut and ran because he knew the voters where going to shove his Romneycare up his Romney.


19 posted on 02/05/2012 11:06:23 PM PST by cableguymn (Good thing I am a conservative. Otherwise I would have to support Mittens like Republicans do.)
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To: cableguymn

Like I said I do not believe any politician, and Romney in particular. My guess is he will not repeal Obamacare in entirety, just portions of it. But again, I never hold my breath waiting for promises to be fulfilled by any politician. Call me a cynic.


20 posted on 02/05/2012 11:10:44 PM PST by entropy12 (Socialism has failed everywhere tried. It breeds mediocrity, corruption, nepotism & poverty for all)
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To: entropy12

Obamacare will not be repealed. Big business (Wall Street and multinational corporations plus private equity firms) want to eliminate the cost of employee medical care much like they eliminated defined benefit pension plans in the 1990’s. The savings are huge to eliminate company paid medical insurance, even if a company pays the $2000 per employee penalty for not having a medical plan. Romney knows this and Newt knows this.

The fix is already in. Boehner and his Republican majority have not even attempted to defund Obamacare through the appropriations process despite having public support for repeal. Any attempt at repeal if the Republicans win the Senate in 2012 will be filibustered to death by the Dems. Plus if Obama wins the election he will certainly veto any repeal legislation. Finally, Mitch McConnell is an establishment tool. As long as he leads Republicans in the Senate he will collaborate behind the scenes with Reid to kill repeal in the Senate.

Sorry, no matter what Newt and Romney say, the big buck doners want Obamacare and will get it. The elites know what is good for us and will make sure we have it no matter what we say. The bailout of Wall Street in 2008 demonstrated that political power in this nation no longer resides with te people.


21 posted on 02/06/2012 12:05:44 AM PST by Soul of the South (When times are tough the tough get going.)
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To: NaturalBornConservative

Without a 60 seat Senate it’s a pointless argument.


22 posted on 02/06/2012 12:05:44 AM PST by douginthearmy (Obamagebra: 1 job + 1 hope + 1 change = 0 jobs + 0 hope)
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To: onyx

BUMP!


23 posted on 02/06/2012 12:23:48 AM PST by A. Morgan (Ayn Rand: "You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality.")
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To: NaturalBornConservative

If Mittens is nominated, Obamacare will be permanently off the table for duration of election.


24 posted on 02/06/2012 1:40:15 AM PST by Sea Parrot (Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors... and miss. Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: NaturalBornConservative

No, he’ll only Mittigate it.


25 posted on 02/06/2012 2:41:19 AM PST by The_Media_never_lie
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To: NaturalBornConservative

This is a moot issue.

Obama will be reelected.

The GEE-OH-PEE has no intention of winning the Presidency this year. The very thought of having the power to make real change scares the s**t out of all the RINOs in Congress.

The only thing of significance that will occur with a Romney nomination and subsequent loss in the general election is that some pundit careers will be irreparably damaged (e.g., Ann Coulter) and some news organizations will be exposed for what they really are (e.g., Fox News).


26 posted on 02/06/2012 3:16:25 AM PST by Rum Tum Tugger
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To: Soul of the South

Looks like you get it.


27 posted on 02/06/2012 3:20:35 AM PST by Rum Tum Tugger
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To: NaturalBornConservative
Since it looks like Mitt will be the nominee, we need to pin him down on repealing Obamacare in it's entirety.

Santorum could, in a debate, say Mitt, I will decide to drop out tonight and throw my support behind you, if and only if you commit to repeal Obamacare entirety at this moment, a moment we will hold you to.

28 posted on 02/06/2012 3:27:32 AM PST by Vision ("Did I not say to you that if you would believe, you would see the glory of God?" John 11:40)
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To: NaturalBornConservative
As it stands now, didn't the last federal appeals court rule ObamaCare illegal and is now before the Supreme Court?

I wasn't dreaming was I, that did happen, huh?

Yet, everyone acts like it didn't.

29 posted on 02/06/2012 4:26:39 AM PST by TexasCajun
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To: NaturalBornConservative

Romney, the PROVEN LIAR, installed RomneyCARE/ObamaCARE.

Anyone who thinks he will remove it IS A FOOL.

The GOP is finished.
Because of Romney, the DNC will rule America forever.


30 posted on 02/06/2012 4:27:56 AM PST by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: NaturalBornConservative

Repeal it? HE CREATED IT!!!


31 posted on 02/06/2012 4:31:15 AM PST by Caipirabob (I say we take off and Newt the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure...)
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To: NaturalBornConservative

Perhaps the best hope for America is that Obamacare is declared unconstitutional.


32 posted on 02/06/2012 5:50:49 AM PST by Jack023
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To: cableguymn

I have not studied Romneycare in detail. So I can’t really make any substantive comments on whether it is good or bad. The question comes to mind is why have the voters in Massachusetts not rejected Romneycare, long after he is gone from governorship?

My guess is MA is a very blue state. Perhaps that is why. I am a big believer in the 10th Amendment. If some other states wish to adopt versions of Romneycare, I have no problem with it. It is the state’s right. One can always move to another state. Obamacare OTOH is a national plan and is unconsitutional.


33 posted on 02/06/2012 9:51:55 AM PST by entropy12 (Socialism has failed everywhere tried. It breeds mediocrity, corruption, nepotism & poverty for all)
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To: entropy12

You REALLY need to research Romneycare.

They rejected it so quickly Romney knew better than to run for relection after it was passed.

The smart ones are fleeing MA.


34 posted on 02/06/2012 11:31:57 AM PST by cableguymn (Good thing I am a conservative. Otherwise I would have to support Mittens like Republicans do.)
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To: cableguymn

Rejected? I thought Romneycare is still in force in MA??


35 posted on 02/06/2012 1:58:00 PM PST by entropy12 (Socialism has failed everywhere tried. It breeds mediocrity, corruption, nepotism & poverty for all)
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To: Jack023
[Perhaps the best hope for America is that Obamacare is declared unconstitutional.]

If that's our best hope, then as Patrick Henry said, "Our chains are forged". Although before that sentence he said, “There is no retreat but in submission and slavery". I think we need to nix Mitt, and latch onto one of the other three, yes, I said three. One of them may be our best hope.

36 posted on 02/06/2012 5:02:07 PM PST by NaturalBornConservative ("Something that everyone knows isn't worth knowing" ~ Bernard Baruch)
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37 posted on 02/06/2012 5:45:22 PM PST by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: entropy12

It is. But the people are not happy with it and rejected it and Romney once they found the devil in the details.


38 posted on 02/06/2012 5:49:51 PM PST by cableguymn (Good thing I am a conservative. Otherwise I would have to support Mittens like Republicans do.)
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