Skip to comments.PPP Poll Missouri (tweet) Santorum 45, Romney 32, Paul 19
Posted on 02/06/2012 8:19:30 PM PST by TexasFreeper2009
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Missouri is Santorum 45, Romney 32, Paul 19
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Did I read that Nevada, Missouri and Minnesota’s caucuses will award NO delegates?
No, MO has a primary, but delegates are chosen in March at a separate caucus. However, the winner of the primary is odds on favorite to take the caucus.
the most important thing about this potential blowout...
it destroys several myths:
1. that Romney is inevitable
2. that Romney is the 2nd choice of everyone
3. that Romney was going to sweep February
Agreed. Would love to see a good solid conservative turnout here. MO is CRITICAL in November...can’t let the big cities turn us to Obama.
But...but...the poll can’t be right. Can it? LOL!
The only thing Santorum has dominated was the electorate in PA that threw him out of office.
Maybe he needs Arlen Specter to prop up his campaign.
Is it just me, or is this an odd primary season? One after another rises then falls, then another comes along, and process is repeated...
Didn’t Missouri go for McCain in 2008? It was close, though. I seem to recall going to bed that night not knowing who won Missouri ... but by then it didn’t matter.
Yes it is odd in that America has no real journalists in the WH press corpse that will hold the Kenyan accountable for anything.
Missouri was about the only purple state that went for McCain, but you are right, it was extremely close.
Yes it is odd. Santorum is now on the rise, and Gingrich is waning, but that could reverse over the course of February.
I also wonder if the news cycle is affecting things. I’m thinking of Dick Morris’ old theory that whatever issue is hot that day drives people to vote for one candidate over another. Suddenly Obama is attacking the Catholic church, and Santorum is clearly the best candidate on Catholic and religious conservative issues. Meanwhile the economy is reported to be doing better, which is perceived as Romney’s strong suit. If the economy got totally better, why would anyone vote for Romney who’s obviously weak on other kinds of conservatism? Newt is probably the guy they’d go to for national security, because he’s perceived as the toughest guy, or for a general conservative grab bag if one particular common issue wasn’t big in the news.
Mo went for McCain only b/c the Fiend already had enough electoral votes to win. If Mo was needed to decide the Presidency, it would have been stolen.
It should have been Santorum all along. We in Pa. know that Rick is an outstanding, fearless candidate. The only person I’d feel more confident with in the Oval Office is Sarah Palin, and she’s not on my ballot. Bob
Rick won 4 out of 5 races in PA. Even Reagan lost a race and later won a landslide.
Santorum said Alito would not be a Justice if it weren’t for Specter. Specter was very effective at being the head of the Judicial Committee.
Rick Santorum realized that the Dems would have control of the Judicial Committee, if the GOP didn’t have the majority in the Senate, and he thought Specter would have the better chance of winning, as well as being an effective head of the Judicial Committee.
and the sound of screeching brakes is heard as Romney does a Uey and goes after the choirboy. Garlic popcorn, please.
That’s Colorado, Missouri and Minnesota where no delegates are awarded in the primary contest. In Missouri, at least, delegates are chosen at county and state GOP conventions. Not sure how they are selected in CO and MN.
US state election laws are like a card game made up by seven-year-olds.
We know, from Gingrich supporters, that if Santorum dropped out, that his support would split roughly equally between Romney and Gingrich, offering Newt no net benefit. It looks from these numbers as if the converse is not the same, that most of Newt's support goes to Santorum. If this is true, like there is more benefit to conservatism if it is Newt who drops out.
It would settle a lot if the two made a deal to offer their delegates to the one ahead of the other should it turn out that Romney is still in the lead entering the convention.
From what I have read tonight it sounds like Rick and Newt have decided that they both need to stay in and take it all the way to the convention where all bets are off. If one of them drops out it would make it much easier for Romney to gain 50% of the delegates. They both need to stay and and each needs to do reasonably well to keep the democrats from having candidates on both sides. If Romney is the nominee it’s a democrat win-win. At this point I would be relatively happy with Rick or Newt as opposed to Romney..gags.
The agreement also allows for conservation of their limited resources. Gingrich can focus on those states where he has an advantage (e.g., the South), Santorum can focus on those states where he has an advantage (e.g., the Midwest).
Romney gets whipsawed, always having to confront the stronger of the two.
The trashing of Santorum on this site is moronic.
Well, living in MO I can speak to that one. And a hare-brained one it is - we have a primary today that doesn’t really count as it will award no delegates. Also, Newt’s not on the ballot anyway. Then, on March 17, we have a caucus where delegates WILL be decided. First time I’ve ever seen that here. WHY don’t all the states just stop having their primaries so darned early, against party rules??? Then the delegate situation would be clearer.
For any Missourians who want to vote for Newt, they need to check the “Uncommitted” box.
I think you guys are better off checking Santorum instead of Uncommitted. It would be terrible if Romney came out the winner. His momentum needs to be stopped in its tracks. We know uncommitted isn’t going to beat him tomorrow, but Santorum might and we should make the win as big as possible.
Thank you for this very important bit of information.
“Yes it is odd. Santorum is now on the rise, and Gingrich is waning, but that could reverse over the course of February.”
I know, but it’s tragic these two guys are splitting the conservative vote. We need to be solidified behind the anti-Romney, and that’s not going to happen as long as they’re both in the race.
Might be time for some kind of neutral, big name ombudsman to call the two together for a Come to Jesus meeting and bury the hatchet some how, and form a strategic partnership against the Bishop. Time is RUNNING OUT.
Santorum is a great speaker of conservative words, especially in this campaign.
But he has always been a tool of the GOP political establishment in PA and nationally.
He is doing a good job of carving up the vote in a way that prevents Newt from overtaking Romney and allows Romney to win in the long run.
And Santorum is getting help from talk hosts like Glenn Beck in a big way and El Rushbo to some extent.
They all are working together to make Romney the winner in the end.
Medicare Part D was certainly not a conservative idea, it has cost billions and made the national debt bigger.
Rick Santorum supported it and Medicare Part D is one of the reasons this nation is on its way to bankruptcy.
This is excellent news.
So what? If he keeps delegates away from Romney it’s great
Missouri also delivered up that trashy Claire McCaskill or however her name is spelled. She sucks up to Bammy like Sebelius.
I’m not going to weep over Romney losing, but I don’t think Santorum is a real conservative.
IN FACT, HE’S THE KIND OF TOOL ROMNEY CAN USE AS A RUNNING MATE TO HUSTLE AND FOOL CONSERVATIVES.
JUST A MUCH A TOOL AS SPIRO AGNEW WAS FOR RICHARD NIXON TO HUSTLE AND FOOL CONSERVATIVES.
Who wins a brokered convention?
“Is it just me, or is this an odd primary season?”
IMO, I think more people are following the candidates earlier during the election cycle. Probably due to the increase of social networking, Tweets, Face book etc.
Palin I hope.
Today’s the day that Santorum breaks out as the ONLY alternative to a Romney nomination. Wake up conservatives...there’s still time to save this thing. GO RICK!!!
Not that odd. After watching Newt self destruct in FL...a state he should have won by 20 point coming out of SC, alot of people realized that he would get creamed like a bowl of Paula Dean’s mashed turnips by obama. We simply can’t take that chance and no matter how long he campaigns Republican’s simply do not like Romney and that leaves Satorum as the only logical, and dependable, choice for thoughtful conservatives.
Yes, in fact I believe MO was the last state called. McCain won by around 3500 votes, mainly because the Dems couldn’t scrounge up enough dead guys in St. Louis. There is NO margin for error in Missouri. Everyone has to get out and vote in November or its going blue.
Use the following link to The Green Papers which has a wealth of info on the election process. Navigate around the various sections and you’ll find most any tidbit of info you want.
I’m not saying he doesn’t have flaws, just that there is a lot of unjustified criticism of him on this site.
I’ve seen comments saying that he did not make any waves in the senate, is not conservative at all except for his pro-life position, is in the tank for Romney, etc.
My days of criticizing either Rick S. or Newt are over.
We need to support both these guys, or at least one, without bashing the other.
Several conservatives I’ve listened to recently claim to love, love, love Newt, but they don’t support him because they are afraid of him.
Afraid he would be torpedoed in the general election by some of the rash statements they think he’s sure to make and the press is sure to emphasize.
I’m still for Newt because I think he can successfully defend himself and will do so and any conservative will be likewise attacked.
But go Santorum ... if you can.
Newt didn’t self-destruct, he was attacked with lies by Romney. He’s already said he understands what he’s up against now and is prepared for the next debate. Romney had JUST as bad a week before in South Carolina, and came back with a successful performance. So to write Newt off after one week in one state is ludicrous. And you can’t overlook the fact that Rick HASN’T been attacked with 10 million in negative ads yet. We have no idea how he’ll fare when that happens.
The problem is now if Rick, Mitt and Newt keep trading wins, we’re on our way to a brokered convention, a totally unpredictable exercise. Ron Paul is trying to stack the delegates with stealth operatives who will vote for Ron Paul if they are released from Mitt/Newt/Rick (see link below).
It’s simply unknown whether he’ll have enough to make a difference. My feeling is the most likely ticket out of the convention is Mitt/Rick, because they’ll figure the southern states will go Republican anyway, so they’ll want candidates who performed better in the north and midwest.
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