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What Was He Thinking? [Fred Barnes questions Romney's conservatism]
The Weekly Standard ^ | February 19, 2012 | Fred Barnes

Posted on 02/10/2012 12:50:00 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

...Romney’s embrace of insuring the minimum wage increases, currently at $7.25, was surprising for a candidate who insists he is a reliable conservative. It was major mistake on his part for three reasons.

First, from an ideological standpoint, what was he thinking? Has he missed the decades long discussion among conservatives about the disastrous impact of the minimum wage? It has eliminated jobs – hundreds of thousands of them – for young persons on the low rungs of employment. The ill effects have been felt especially by African American youth.

Not only that, but the minimum wage represents a government intrusion in the economy. Free market economists, most notably Thomas Sowell, have been making this point for years.

Any self-identified conservative should be aware of this, even if the media has given it minimal coverage. And Romney’s support for jacking up the minimum wage annually only makes his apostasy worse.

Second, his timing was, to be charitable, politically clumsy. The day before, Romney had been trounced by Rick Santorum in two caucuses and one primary. This was more than an embarrassment. It showed once more that Romney has failed to persuade most conservatives he is indeed one of them. Instead, his message is one conservatives continue to find unconvincing.

.....Is Romney more conservative than he sounds? That’s been the belief of at least some of his defenders, including me. Now I’m not so sure.

(Excerpt) Read more at weeklystandard.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: conservatism; economy; minimumwage; romney2012
More light bulbs are switching on.
1 posted on 02/10/2012 12:50:07 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Even in 2008 I realized Romney was a Keynesian. He’s not anti-business or anti-rich but he’s more like a corporatist protectionist technocrat who thinks the economy can be managed if only we had the smart guys in charge.

Sort of like the old school Hoover country club Republicans.


2 posted on 02/10/2012 12:58:10 AM PST by ari-freedom
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To: ari-freedom

Amen.


3 posted on 02/10/2012 1:00:32 AM PST by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
More light bulbs are switching on.

Somebody get him a teleprompter. He is running already an Obama styled campaign. He needs to stop with this 99% cheap stuff and go 100% Obama. This bunch really really do not hold those coveted 'independent' voters in a very high regard.

4 posted on 02/10/2012 1:03:30 AM PST by Just mythoughts (Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Say no to the GOP's Rhino left.

mitt1a

5 posted on 02/10/2012 1:06:09 AM PST by BobP (The piss-stream media - Never to be watched again in my house)
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To: BobP

He’d be much worse than McCain.


6 posted on 02/10/2012 1:08:09 AM PST by ari-freedom
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
More light bulbs are switching on.
That's a pretty scathing indictment. The lights should have already have been on.

@Every Light In The House (just pick it, it'll open a new screen)

7 posted on 02/10/2012 1:20:44 AM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
"Has he missed the decades long discussion among conservatives about . . ."
Bishop Romney has missed every discussion among conservatives, not just the discussion of the minimum wage. He doesn't hang around with or talk with anyone who is conservative except at election time and even then he only allows the most RINO of RINOs into his little clique for the duration of the campaign.

Why anyone would believe Bishop Romney is a conservative is beyond me. One word, RomneyCare, is sufficient to dispel any BS about the guy having even a single conservative bone in his body. He' plenty big on self-interest, but other than that, he could care less what happens to the economy, average folks, or the Constitution.

He and his LDS pals like to claim they're conservative but they play the angles no matter what they are including getting in on every government scam they can possibly find a way to get in on. That's not being conservative, that's keeping up appearances while playing the game behind the scenes.

8 posted on 02/10/2012 1:37:20 AM PST by Rashputin (Obama stark, raving, mad, and even his security people know it.)
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To: philman_36
Did you see Fred Barnes on "Special Report" - a week or so back - taking up "arms" in Mitt Romney's defense after his "I don't worry about the poor" trip-up?

Charles Krauthammer correctly stated it was a big stumble. His exchange with Barnes went back and forth with Barnes fuming and stammering that, "people were over analyzing it[!]".

I think Fred Barnes has folded his arms across his chest and is starting to get the picture of how unreliable Mitt is. Interesting that Barnes says that Mitt's defenders "believe him to be more conservative than he sounds." It's now coming to their (at least Fred Barnes' -- so I expect others) attention, that Mitt is NOT more than he sounds and perhaps, just perhaps, even LESS conservative than they'd hoped.

But the "worst" revelation to the establishment is, that the BASE knew this already and they AREN'T coming around.

9 posted on 02/10/2012 1:38:36 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Fred Barnes is the Beltway boy and even he’s getting tired of having to defend Romney. Poor Ann will have him all to herself.


10 posted on 02/10/2012 1:49:08 AM PST by ari-freedom
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To: Rashputin; ari-freedom; Just mythoughts; Ann Archy; All

....”This is the seventh CPAC I have been to. The crowd is the least excited I have seen. On the first day, before the candidates have had a chance to bus in their supporters to stack the deck and straw poll, this is the least excited I’ve seen them. The crowd’s heart is with Santorum. But in their mind they do not think he can win.

Today, Mitt Romney must convince the crowd he is one of them or at least won’t betray them. Rick Santorum must convince them he can beat Barack Obama. Newt Gingrich must convince them he is still viable.

Along the way a funny thing has happened. Romney supporters are starting to be openly critical of him. The business whiz has failed to restructure his own failing organization. His support is a mile wide and an inch deep.”....

http://www.redstate.com/erick/2012/02/10/the-frontrunner/


11 posted on 02/10/2012 2:38:25 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
See I have been advising them for a while to get a teleprompter for Mitt./s Who is the captain of programming Romney?
12 posted on 02/10/2012 2:51:13 AM PST by Just mythoughts (Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
The crowd’s heart is with Santorum. But in their mind they do not think he can win.

Why is this? Has the MSM been totally and unequivocally successful in convincing conservatives that Romney is electable but Santorum or anybody else is not? Independent of Santorum's stammering and stuttering at time in his speeches, his heart is in the right place and so are his morals and principles. We don't need another actor/teleprompter president (no knock on Reagan), but America needs someone who shares our conservative values.

13 posted on 02/10/2012 3:15:31 AM PST by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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To: ari-freedom
"Poor Ann will have him all to herself."

That's a thought that would have her purring and licking herself all over to make sure her fur looks pretty.

14 posted on 02/10/2012 3:21:02 AM PST by Rashputin (Obama stark, raving, mad, and even his security people know it.)
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To: Rashputin
Yeah but Romney thinks one Ann is enough.
Then again, if he's president, polygamy may be legalized so who knows?
15 posted on 02/10/2012 3:30:16 AM PST by ari-freedom
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To: Rashputin

“That’s a thought that would have her purring and licking herself all over to make sure her fur looks pretty. “

She really does remind me of a cat too!


16 posted on 02/10/2012 3:31:46 AM PST by ari-freedom
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Is he more conservative than he sounds? No, it’s the other way around. He is far LESS conservative than he sounds, and this as close as he can get when he’s trying .


17 posted on 02/10/2012 3:34:55 AM PST by ez (When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail.)
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To: ez

Michael Medved was just on Fox.

He believes Mitt’s moderate position will make him more viable in the general election — he opines how primary voters (who had voted in the past for Romney) are staying home and not coming out to vote for him this time round — that the base has moved (right).

I think Medved will stay with Mitt to the bitter end.


18 posted on 02/10/2012 3:42:09 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: broken_arrow1

Unfortunately Santorum is a pro-union, big-guv, go along to get along pol. He is anti-Tea Party, which makes it pretty sad that he’s now the Great Conservative Hope.

No wonder GOP voter turnout has been low and declining the farther along we get in the process.


19 posted on 02/10/2012 3:42:14 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker
Those ARE big red flags.

I also think the base is getting nervous about who is left and so will not tear into Santorum (as everyone else has been -- vetted) on those points, but Obama will.

I still believe the best one left running is Newt. And he can take it to Obama (as I've been told so often).

20 posted on 02/10/2012 3:46:25 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Thanks for the info. I didn’t think Santorum could ever win anything again, but I think something has shifted, and people want a MORAL CONSERVATIVE.......neither Mitt or Newt are that combo......but it will take some time for the vast majority to come to that conclusion.


21 posted on 02/10/2012 4:04:02 AM PST by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I’m inclined to agree with you. (!!!)

Newt would have to be something of a Clintonian proposition to voters: he’s a rogue, but he seems to have some real competences and there’s hope that he’ll do well for the economy. That may be the best we have this year.


22 posted on 02/10/2012 4:06:33 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I'm not sold on Romney, but Fred Barnes' Conservative "cred," so to speak, is Dee Cee-tainted, too. Probably better than than most of the Beltway Bombers over at the Billy the K's Standard (and much improved the past few years), I'll admit.
23 posted on 02/10/2012 4:18:29 AM PST by Prospero
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
If Romney cannot see the inherent damage to the economy and to employment of the minimum wage act, I question his understanding of economics in general. Just because Romney made a lot of money DOES NOT automatically mean that he understands how the economy works (and should work).

Micro IS NOT macro! The economy is macro!

24 posted on 02/10/2012 5:26:08 AM PST by RoosterRedux (Go Newt!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Romney doesn’t think like a conservative, does he, Fred?


25 posted on 02/10/2012 6:11:42 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Pray Continued Victory for our Troops Still in Afghan!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

How cute. Fred Barnes actually trying to sound like a conservative.

He’s just trying to get some distance between his milquetoast moderate magazine and the coming flameout of the Romney campaign.


26 posted on 02/10/2012 6:17:38 AM PST by Buckeye Battle Cry (Not Romney - Not ever!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I haven't watched FOX in over two years. I don't like carrying dead weight.

It's now coming to their (at least Fred Barnes' -- so I expect others) attention, that Mitt is NOT more than he sounds and perhaps, just perhaps, even LESS conservative than they'd hoped.
No, his political ideology has been on display for years. They don't see it because they don't want to have to admit they see it and knew of it all along. Barnes is a perfect example.
The blind sheep are supposed to follow the blind sheperd.

27 posted on 02/10/2012 6:58:43 AM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
His support is a mile wide and an inch deep.

I love that! How apt.
And he's being carried across lest his $1000 shoes get damp, much less wet.

28 posted on 02/10/2012 7:05:48 AM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Romney is the ahem conservative who would manage the welfare state better than any other conservative. Santorum and Gingrich want to tear down the welfare state. That is the difference between the candidates.


29 posted on 02/10/2012 7:29:30 AM PST by driftless2
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To: driftless2

Bump!


30 posted on 02/10/2012 1:20:45 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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