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Beware Of Highly-Trained Armed Parasites In A SHTF Situation
Survival and Prosperity.com ^ | 2/10/12

Posted on 02/10/2012 12:57:37 PM PST by Kartographer

This morning, I want to talk about these armed parasites. Some time ago I picked up the book Urban Survival Guide by David Morris. On page 86 of the text, which is really a comprehensive twelve-week urban survival course, Morris wrote:

… many people’s survival plan consists of buying just enough ammo to take whatever food they need by force. Just two weeks before writing this, I stood in a circle with eight active duty military talking about how quickly things were crumbling. When the conversation moved to preparations, I found myself listening to them mock families who stockpile food and detail their plans on how to “liberate” it if they ever need to.

Some of the comments were, “If they’re dumb enough to buy food instead of guns, they don’t deserve to live.” and “When it comes down to it, my family is more important than their family and I’ll take what I need.” and “I don’t have room to store a year of food, but I do have room for another case of .223.”

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To: dangerdoc
>>>> "Consider reloading equipment and supplies. Components take up a lot less room." <<<<

Good idea when you have time BEFOREHAND. But, it would be a bitch trying to fight off the bad guys with one hand working the action of a Model 70 and the other pulling on a Pacific Press. LOL

101 posted on 02/10/2012 3:33:06 PM PST by jmax
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To: DuncanWaring

Good suggestion ;^)

On my first trip to New Brunswick to check out some land I bought,
I was wondering if there were bear around.
As I crested the last hill before reaching the property,
I was treated to the sight of a bear in the middle of the road.


102 posted on 02/10/2012 3:35:22 PM PST by kanawa
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To: Greysard

They are called “Occupy.”


103 posted on 02/10/2012 3:37:57 PM PST by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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To: Kartographer

bfl


104 posted on 02/10/2012 3:43:35 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: sten
10 years ago... did you think we'd actually be considering such situations inside the US? another thing we can thank the left for

Excellent point. At family gatherings we have discussed at length prepping and scenarios for survival. A lot of people I run into are contemplating bad things down the road. With guns sales through the roof the past few years, millions of citizens are quite aware that we will likely enter a dark period. More and more people are preparing, and that is a good thing.

105 posted on 02/10/2012 3:53:40 PM PST by sand88 (Nothing on this Earth would get me to vote for Mitt.)
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To: bolobaby
While guns are the great equalizer, his violent instincts are so sharp, an armed grandma would have a hard time contending. He knows that and would be likely to choose his targets carefully.

So what martial art move does he use against a sniper that takes him out at 800 yards with a .338 lapua magnum?

106 posted on 02/10/2012 3:58:33 PM PST by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: kanawa
I read somewhere it's actually possible to kill a bear with just a knife if you've got a dog distracting the bear.

Yeah, I know ... it was you ;-)

107 posted on 02/10/2012 4:02:27 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: jmax

“Good idea when you have time BEFOREHAND.”

Isn’t that the point of being of being a prepper instead of a reactor?


108 posted on 02/10/2012 4:39:10 PM PST by dangerdoc (see post #6)
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To: buffaloguy

Yep. Attrition is going to get them eventually. These aren’t all going to be dynamic entry SWAT raids. You might find yourself and your team being engaged from long range by multiple bogeys in organized units with comms, night vision, even thermal.

Our soldiers are used to excellent logistical and air support as well as superior weaponry. Only a small band of special ops groups are truly trained to operate on their own for a long period of time in the above mentioned situation.

The parasite route will be high risk and hit and miss. And there’s no rule that says they couldn’t follow you back to your lair and rip you a new a** too.


109 posted on 02/10/2012 4:51:22 PM PST by Free Vulcan (Election 2012 - America stands or falls. No more excuses. Get involved.)
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To: allmendream
If it is news to you that in a SHTF situation the greatest threat to you and your family are going to be armed bands of people - what did you think it WAS going to be?

LOL! Very True!

I'm about 60 posts thru and there's a whole lot of naiveté on this thread.

You know who's going to do well in a SHTF situation? Young, single males. Fact is, our wives and children are liabilities. The young, single male is going to have the advantage of mobility and independence. He has nothing to lose and nobody depending on him. He only has to scavenge for himself. He can move quickly with little more than a rifle and a backpack.

People here claiming "Oh, we'll just band together in happy little groups and defend ourselves" will be in for a big surprise when they find themselves outnumbered by roving bands of young males who shoot the menfolk first, do Very Bad Things to their wives and daughters, take what they want and then quickly leave.

110 posted on 02/10/2012 4:52:19 PM PST by Drew68
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To: dangerdoc
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B-I-N-G-O, doc.

111 posted on 02/10/2012 4:52:27 PM PST by jmax
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To: Kartographer

In a SHTF situation, what’s to keep the ChiComms from invading the US and taking over?


112 posted on 02/10/2012 5:11:06 PM PST by COBOL2Java (Controlling RINOs in Congress is like herding cats; should we be surprised Newt got scratched?)
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To: bgill
The portion of my post you did read:


" I could hopscotch throughout the southeast and find hundreds of other such likely spots away from the more urban zones. "

Your reply: " That sailboat would be an easy target for someone standing behind a tree on shore. Just sayin'. "

The last part of my post you didn't read: " If it turns into a zombie-fest, I've always wanted to check out the Pacific..tools, seeds and chem fertilizer will go with me, and maybe even a couple breeding potbelly pigs. I'll go where people ain't and do my semiannual trading where they're few. That's the basic plan... "


When ya'll are figuring out your war games, I'll be in the Tuamotus. Have fun.


113 posted on 02/10/2012 5:39:07 PM PST by AnTiw1 (I lived through a mormon hell, I will not live in a country with a mormon president.)
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To: cripplecreek
My neighbors and I don’t intend to survive. We intend to thrive.

Thats the spirit, As for the military gangs most will be home trying to protect their own families from the roaming gangs of thugs .

114 posted on 02/10/2012 5:48:31 PM PST by piroque ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act")
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To: piroque

There are 4 other little towns within a 10 mile radius of this one and every one of those towns has more little towns around them. We have personal and professional connections between these little towns and creating a cooperative defensive and trading network is almost and instinctive thing.


115 posted on 02/10/2012 5:56:19 PM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: LiveFree99

I resemble that remark.

Plus, it’s hard to steal my food supply. I’m assuming people won’t be quite ready to be cannibals.


116 posted on 02/10/2012 6:03:28 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: DBrow

Good golly, its been decades since I read Lucifers hammer...didn’t the same guys write....the mote in Gods eye....good sci fi books


117 posted on 02/10/2012 6:05:01 PM PST by goat granny
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To: COBOL2Java
what’s to keep the ChiComms from invading the US and taking over

On a relative basis, I'd much rather see my grandkids under that scenario than controlled by Muslims.

118 posted on 02/10/2012 6:05:46 PM PST by nascarnation (DEFEAT BARAQ 2012 DEPORT BARAQ 2013)
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To: SVTCobra03
" So what martial art move does he use against a sniper that takes him out at 800 yards with a .338 lapua magnum? "

I'll throw out an answer. I'll say stealth and situational awareness. Once you've been actually living in the bush for a prolonged period of time, you start hearing a lot better and making a lot less noise. You know you're getting there if you walk right into a bunch of deer sleeping and they take off falling down over themselves. A second thing is situational awareness. There's a lot of half mystical practices in martial arts, I won't get in too deep, but there are practical exercises for getting for lack of a better term, "spidey sense". It won't beat a sniper, but it sure will tell you when to lay low.

If a sniper goes tiger hunting, the advantage is with the sniper...as long as the tiger doesn't know he's being hunted.



119 posted on 02/10/2012 6:08:55 PM PST by AnTiw1 (I lived through a mormon hell, I will not live in a country with a mormon president.)
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To: Kartographer

If the SHTF I’m going to eat the catfish out of the dirty river.


120 posted on 02/10/2012 6:09:45 PM PST by TBall
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To: yarddog

you and me both, only thing I’ve thought about is hunting for it heh. I don’t have the finances currently to prepare near as much as I would like. That’s changing, but not fast enough for how fast I see things spiraling out of control.

I would rather go offer my services (ex soldier), to a group of people that needs protection and assistance in any way I could help, rather than harm good folk and taking what is theirs. Society may go downhill, but God is still in control, and we will be held accountable.


121 posted on 02/10/2012 6:28:25 PM PST by Bulwyf
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To: cripplecreek

Think WWII ,No bridges make a good defense.


122 posted on 02/10/2012 6:32:05 PM PST by piroque ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act")
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bttt


123 posted on 02/10/2012 6:32:38 PM PST by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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To: yarddog

be pretty hard to hunt down all the game, at least here in Canada, heck there’s 14 million geese alone, factor in reproduction and I think there will be some animals around for quite some time. The population would have a drastic thinning out in a hurry which would increase the animal odds.


124 posted on 02/10/2012 6:40:43 PM PST by Bulwyf
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To: Bulwyf

You would probably fare better in rural Canada but here in the Florida Panhandle which is quite rural, the deer, turkey and alligator populations were nearly or totally wiped out during the great depression.

Deer have made an impressive comeback but turkey had to be reintroduced by the state. Now they are thriving again as are alligator. Also the Florida gopher tortoise (Hoover chickens) came close to being erased.


125 posted on 02/10/2012 6:47:45 PM PST by yarddog
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To: yarddog

wow, they mopped up that much down there? That’s incredible.

Well, up here the cold is enough to keep most people out as well, you’re always welcome to come hang in the northern rockies heh. Never run out of water, and lots of food, just have to deal with weather and keeping the wanderers out.


126 posted on 02/10/2012 6:56:34 PM PST by Bulwyf
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To: Kartographer

With record gun sales and back ground checks, the lone wolf would certainly be in the wrong place or “kick in” the wrong door within a few hours of SHTF. Roving gangs would be a different story. Organized, armed and hungry.
My BIL says he’s gonna be a lone wolf, toting his wife and kid. Tried to tell him to do otherwise but you know...he’s a badazz. Glad he lives far away.


127 posted on 02/10/2012 7:10:52 PM PST by FishinTX (Barak Obama HATES you.)
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To: Bulwyf

Water is the one thing we really have it nice here. There are 3 natural flowing springs within 20 miles of me which flow millions of gallons per day, maybe even more than that and the water is more pure than tap water.


128 posted on 02/10/2012 7:22:15 PM PST by yarddog
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To: COBOL2Java

There’s a few places that it might be an improvement.


129 posted on 02/10/2012 7:53:52 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: dangerdoc

“When the emergency is upon us, the time of preparation has passed.”


130 posted on 02/10/2012 8:00:20 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer
The other day I was at the grocery store contemplating the extra food I had purchased as part of my preps, and I looked around at all the customers and thought how sad it was that these folks were going to suffer so horribly if and when SHTF.

After a few seconds, however, I realized that many of these customers already looked very much like savage, primitive cannibals, and that maybe I was the one on their SHTF menu!

131 posted on 02/10/2012 8:46:28 PM PST by The Duke
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To: COBOL2Java

The S will be hitting the F there as well. They may be too busy to mess with us....


132 posted on 02/10/2012 9:31:44 PM PST by wolf24
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To: Flintlock

Body armor? Most people in SHTF situations won’t have it unless they’ve taken it from police. And - only the highest levels can stop rifle projectiles - the class II police use can be made into swiss cheese by a Winnie ‘94 30-30.


133 posted on 02/11/2012 2:15:44 AM PST by Nathaniel (- A Man Without A Cross -)
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To: bolobaby

“Street thugs”? You mean the ones stupid enought to hold their handguns sideways (not using the sights)? The ones with ZERO wilderness survival skills? The ones who depend on 7-11 burritos for sustinance? Those “street thugs”? They’ll rob and pillage the inner city cesspools and the residents of such who do not posess the drive, will and skills to hit the backcountry and survive. When that gravy train dries up, they’ll dry up - those “street thugs” that are stupid enough to venture out of their comfort zone into the hills, mountains and woods, will last about as long as a snowball in Hades. Foodstamps won’t help them there.


134 posted on 02/11/2012 2:29:14 AM PST by Nathaniel (- A Man Without A Cross -)
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To: DBrow

“I’ve looked into making insulin from beef or pork pancreas”

How seriously? My son is type 1.

“Black Powder and Alcohol” by Leslie Fish.”

Mythbusters did an episode where they tried to make black powder, didn’t work out so well. I tried when I was a kid too. Black powder is NOT easy to make.


135 posted on 02/11/2012 2:36:18 AM PST by vanilla swirl (We are the Patrick Henry we have been waiting for!)
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To: COBOL2Java
In a SHTF situation, what’s to keep the ChiComms from invading the US and taking over?

Trident subs.

136 posted on 02/11/2012 3:14:27 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Kartographer
This is why you keep on hand what looks like your supply of food but is actually made with a ‘special secret recipe’. When they come for it, you cry ‘Please don't take our food!” They take it and after they leave you go ‘heee...heeee...heeee.....’
137 posted on 02/11/2012 3:19:16 AM PST by MagnoliaB
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To: Kartographer

Well, it certainly seems to me that it is LEOs who are going to go to the Dark Side, long before the military that the author is so worried about. The military does have some orginization and controls that should last for a while as we slide toward SHTF. Law enforcement does not, and they will be using what hardware and training they have for their own purposes as soon as they figure it is in their best interests. This may not be perceived as much of a threat to the author, but it will be what people experience first, and it will hasten the slide.


138 posted on 02/11/2012 5:31:35 AM PST by Empire_of_Liberty
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To: goat granny
"Good golly, its been decades since I read Lucifers hammer...didn’t the same guys write....the mote in Gods eye....good sci fi books..."

Yes and if Memory serves they also collaborated on a book that sticks the finger in the eye of the "GloBULL Warming" movement. Its called Fallen Angels and is a solid read and a good Scifi novel!

139 posted on 02/11/2012 6:18:21 AM PST by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: DuncanWaring

Luckily he doesn’t live in my neighborhood - he’s in CT and I’m in SC.


140 posted on 02/11/2012 8:02:32 AM PST by bolobaby
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To: SVTCobra03

“So what martial art move does he use against a sniper that takes him out at 800 yards with a .338 lapua magnum?”

This is an idiotic response. You are missing the point. He has sharp killer instincts. He’s fast and tough. Oh, and - btw - he also is very skilled with firearms and is likely TO BE the sniper at 800 yards.

You see, it’s not about this one guy. It’s a conceptual argument. I keep seeing posts like, “Oh, let these guys show up and try to take MY food. I’ll put a cap in their arse!” What people don’t seem to get is that SOME of these folks who are relying on their guns (instead of supplies) are simply more fit, better trained, and have a better instinct about killing.

Consider this: what if it was a Navy Seal? Or a trained Marine sniper? Who do you think wins that firefight the vast majority of times?

That’s my point. I’d pit 100 of the guy I know in CT versus 100 internet message board prepper braggarts and I know what the outcome would be.

Read the article again. It was talking about people who are well-trained in the use of firearms and combat arts. THAT’S THE POINT. If you think you DON’T have an obligation to be BETTER than them to survive, you’re wrong.

Just like the idiot in NH who thinks her tight, trustworthy community will somehow see her through, there are far too many preppers who think “I own a gun, I’m all set.” When the sh!t hits the fan, if you aren’t better prepared, better trained, and in better physical shape than all the other yahoos who own a gun, you’re likely to be toast, too. Especially if you live in a densely populated area.


141 posted on 02/11/2012 8:14:22 AM PST by bolobaby
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To: bgill

“After grandma and little granddaughter triangle in on him, all his guns will belong to them.”

(I ended up reusing a response posted to another Freeper almost in it’s entirety because it applies.)

This is an idiotic response. You are missing the point. He has sharp killer instincts. He’s fast and tough. Oh, and - btw - he’s likely to have teamed up with someone to triangle on grandma and the granddaughter.

You see, it’s not about this one guy. It’s a conceptual argument. I keep seeing posts like, “Oh, let’s these guys show up and try to take MY food. I’ll put a cap in their arse!” What people don’t seem to get is that SOME of these folks who are relying on their guns (instead of supplies) are simply more fit, better trained, and have a better instinct about killing.

Consider this: what if it was a Navy Seal? Or a trained Marine sniper? Who do you think wins that firefight the vast majority of times?

That’s my point. I’d pit 100 of the guy I know in CT versus 100 internet message board prepper braggarts and I know what the outcome would be.

Read the article again. It was talking about people who are well-trained in the use of firearms and combat arts. THAT’S THE POINT. If you think you DON’T have an obligation to be BETTER than them to survive, you’re wrong.

Just like the idiot in NH who thinks her tight, trustworthy community will somehow see her through, there are far too many preppers who think “I own a gun, I’m all set.” When the sh!t hits the fan, if you aren’t better prepared, better trained, and in better physical shape than all the other yahoos who own a gun, you’re likely to be toast, too. Especially if you live in a densely populated area.


142 posted on 02/11/2012 8:15:59 AM PST by bolobaby
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To: Nathaniel

It would behoove you to actually read the article. It was not referring to the type of people you described. It was referring to well-trained ex-military types.


143 posted on 02/11/2012 8:17:22 AM PST by bolobaby
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To: Leaning Right
Too many preppers think that there are only two scenarios: normality or Zombie Apocalypse. They fail to consider intermediate-severity scenarios, which seem much more likely.

A set of articles about collapse in Argentina provide some good pointers about survival in an in-between situation.

A more likely scenario than Zombie Apocalypse is a situation where local governments have gone bust, but have not managed to take the whole economy down with them. In this scenario, the lights will still be on, you are likely to be still employed, but you have a huge increase in street crime, home invasions, and robberies. The situation would involve how to band with your neighbors so as to protect your neighborhoods when police cannot keep up, and how to get to and from work safely when carjackings become much more common.

144 posted on 02/11/2012 8:44:38 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. - George Orwell)
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To: editor-surveyor
Not armed bands of ‘people,’ Military and LEOs.

LEOs currently are developing a looter mentality, where the solution to low government revenue is to engage in enough traffic stops that the fines make up for the revenue shortfall.

What happens when local governments find difficulty in meeting payrolls, and some LEOs decide to stage "drug raids" on houses they know have lots of loot to confiscate?

145 posted on 02/11/2012 8:51:56 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. - George Orwell)
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To: Drew68
People here claiming "Oh, we'll just band together in happy little groups and defend ourselves" will be in for a big surprise when they find themselves outnumbered by roving bands of young males who shoot the menfolk first, do Very Bad Things to their wives and daughters, take what they want and then quickly leave.

In such a scenario, strange young males, particularly in groups, would be shot on sight.

146 posted on 02/11/2012 8:55:43 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. - George Orwell)
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To: The Duke
After a few seconds, however, I realized that many of these customers already looked very much like savage, primitive cannibals, and that maybe I was the one on their SHTF menu!

Looters' bodies would definitely be on the menu for dog food, since dogs are useful and pet-food can be eaten by people in a pinch. In the final extreme, I would be prepared to lie to my wife and kids about where and how I scored that bag of jerky than allow them to starve.

147 posted on 02/11/2012 9:02:07 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. - George Orwell)
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To: Empire_of_Liberty
Well, it certainly seems to me that it is LEOs who are going to go to the Dark Side, long before the military that the author is so worried about.

The lesson of Katrina is that when TSHTF, police will desert their posts and look after themselves and their own families first.

148 posted on 02/11/2012 9:07:36 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. - George Orwell)
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To: Ellendra
Lol. First time I have seen anyone else mention or say that. It is my first line of defense. I have bio-hazard tape signs and bags. My worry would be the neighbors burn my place to cleanse it. It is a line of defense to use based on the scenario and situation. It is just one of many I have thought through based on various scenarios.

I know I'm unprepared and I am more prepared than most. If it goes shtf in a bad way, (99.5%) of us are screwed. Most people are tied to a single theory/solution. This concept that people can survive and retain their humanity is flawed. I have thought about it and have come to the conclusion that there are 2 choices - die or become truly vicious. Probably won't have to make that decision right away but eventually if its teotwawki then that's the choice.

The key is what scenario plays out and the speed. Based on that info determines my defensive, offensive or run and hide response. I pray we don't see it and if it does its like what we have seen in other modern countries and not like the biblical Apocalypse.

149 posted on 02/11/2012 9:19:25 AM PST by Free_in_Alabama (The average citizen is too lazy to steal from you, instead they are asking the government to do it)
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bttt


150 posted on 02/11/2012 9:49:05 AM PST by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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