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Pro-life Santorum voted for govt subsidies to Planned Parenthood
http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/2012/01/18/pro-life-santorum-voted-for-govt-subsidies-to-planned-parenthood/ ^ | 021012 | Dr. Eowyn

Posted on 02/10/2012 7:33:12 PM PST by Fred

The taxpayer-subsidized abortion mill, Planned Parenthood Federation of America, received $487.4 million in tax dollars over a 12-month period and performed 329,455 abortions.

While he was in the U.S. Senate representing Pennsylvania, Rick Santorum, a pro-life Roman Catholic, had voted to fund indirectly (through title X family planning) Planned Parenthood clinics.

Santorum also voted in favor of HR 796, the Abortion Clinic Access Bill; his was a “key vote”. HR 796 sought to amend the federal criminal code to prohibit actions directed at clinics which perform abortion procedures, or at those persons attempting to access these clinics.

He also enthusiastically campaigned for pro-abortion Arlen Specter against the more conservative Pat Toomey.

see video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyFSXGVX73s&feature=player_embedded

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TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: abortionclinicaccess; gingrich; hr796; ibtz; plannedparenthood; romney; santorum; titlex

1 posted on 02/10/2012 7:33:27 PM PST by Fred
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To: Fred

Then how come abortionists, Barbara Boxer, Planned Parenthood, every single sexually deviant psychotic liberal hate Santorum so much?


2 posted on 02/10/2012 7:38:39 PM PST by exist
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To: Fred

1. “[I]ndirect funding” means it wasn’t a bill specifically about funding. Knowing RATs, this was probably tacked onto something like military pay funding.

2. Blocking PP access is wrong if you’re doing it on public grounds. Or, maybe, you like the Occupy idiots clogging up cities and pooping all over everything?

3. Every ‘R’ politician has had something to do with the Sphincter over the last 50 years. Bush II kissed his butt, too, don’t forget.

This piece has to work a little harder to be worthwhile. Of course, there’s not too much to work with considering that Santorum was a Senator actually targeted by the DNC for elimination - an honor not many can boast.


3 posted on 02/10/2012 7:42:26 PM PST by WorkingClassFilth (I'm for Churchill in 1940!)
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To: exist

More Pro-Romney minions coming out with the daggers. I’ll take Santorum and Newt’s record on abortion over Romney’s any day of the week.


4 posted on 02/10/2012 7:42:52 PM PST by bjcoop
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To: Fred

The text of what HR 796 said:

“Outlines proscribed acts, including the physical obstruction of entrances to said clinics or acts intended to damage the property, and intimidation or use of force against a person seeking to enter and abortion clinic.”

Physical obstruction, damage of property and intimidation. THAT’s what the bill prohibited. Barring people from acting like OWS thugs is bad because...?

It doesn’t take hooliganism to protest the abortion industry.

Facts can be annoying things.


5 posted on 02/10/2012 7:44:31 PM PST by ScottinVA (GOP, meet Courage... Courage, meet GOP.)
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To: Fred
Santorum also voted in favor of HR 796, the Abortion Clinic Access Bill; his was a “key vote”. HR 796 sought to amend the federal criminal code to prohibit actions directed at clinics which perform abortion procedures, or at those persons attempting to access these clinics.

That is a bald faced LIE. Don't believe everything you read on the internet.

Fact: HR796 passed the house on voice vote. 1993-1994.

Fact: When it's equivalent senate bill, S.636, came to a vote in the house in the SAME year, Santorum voted to TABLE the bill...aka kill it. Santorum later VOTED AGAINST THE BILL ITSELF when it came back to the house.

Fact: Santorum voted to kill this bill twice.

6 posted on 02/10/2012 7:48:44 PM PST by Darren McCarty (Rick Santorum in the primary)
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To: Fred

Rick Santorum, a pro-life Roman Catholic, had voted to fund indirectly (through title X family planning) Planned Parenthood clinics.

Wow. Are we not reaching. He indirectly voted for......whatever.


7 posted on 02/10/2012 7:49:40 PM PST by napscoordinator (A moral principled Christian with character is the frontrunner! Congrats Santorum!)
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To: Fred
Romney is a fake and can't be trusted because of socialist health care.

Gingrich is a loose cannon who sat on the couch with Nancy Pelosi.

Ron Paul doesn't mind if Isreal is vaporized by Iran.

And now Santorum supports abortion.


DAMN - there's no one left...

8 posted on 02/10/2012 7:50:50 PM PST by Baynative (Please check this out - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFIcZkEzc8I)
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To: Fred

He also enthusiastically campaigned for pro-abortion Arlen Specter against the more conservative Pat Toomey.

One voted for fags in the military and one didn’t. Hint......Toomey did.


9 posted on 02/10/2012 7:51:53 PM PST by napscoordinator (A moral principled Christian with character is the frontrunner! Congrats Santorum!)
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To: Fred

Right...


10 posted on 02/10/2012 7:51:53 PM PST by wolfman23601
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To: Fred
The source?

Fellowship of the Minds

Conservatives who love America

A more appropriate name....

Fellowship of some Minds

Liberals who love Romney

11 posted on 02/10/2012 7:56:35 PM PST by Rational Thought
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To: Baynative

That’s the funniest post I’ve seen in a long time!


12 posted on 02/10/2012 8:10:21 PM PST by cantfindagoodscreenname (I really hate not knowing what was said in the deleted posts....)
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To: Fred

Here come the intellectual gymnastics. It’s amazing what your will to excuse when you support the candidate.

All these holier then now santorum supporters are just now starting to understand the power of the dark side.


13 posted on 02/10/2012 8:12:22 PM PST by JoSixChip (Top 10% of wage earners pay 70% of total income taxes collected. Bottom 50% pay less then 3%, fair?)
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To: Fred

The “true conservative” has no clothes.....


14 posted on 02/10/2012 8:13:11 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright
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To: napscoordinator

Specter, who became a Democrat just months after Santorum’s support.
Now go back to your nap.


15 posted on 02/10/2012 8:15:19 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright
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To: WorkingClassFilth

Why is closing “PP access” wrong? There are plenty of other health providers who provide all of their “good” services without profiting from dead babies.


16 posted on 02/10/2012 8:25:19 PM PST by Apollo5600
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To: Fred

I dislike Romney more and more every time I read this crap.why don’t you tell us about Mitt’s pro abortion stand. Rick has always been against abortion, Mitt is new to the party.


17 posted on 02/10/2012 8:28:43 PM PST by STJPII
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To: Fred

I can only speak for myself, but there WAS a time when I thought the likes of PP and AARP were sacrosanct. I think a lot of people did. But once the curtain of mendacity which shielded both organizations slowly rotted and fell away, I saw them for what they really are. PP is a gang of Baby Killers for Hire, and AARP is a pro-socialist echo chamber for the ‘Rat Party.

I choose to believe that when Rick lent PP his support, it was when his vision, like mine, was obscured by the fog of pseudo-respectability that surrounded them. There is no way Santorum would have supported them if he’d realized that their raison d’etre was killing babies, and NOT women’s HEALTH!


18 posted on 02/10/2012 8:35:24 PM PST by Tucker39 ( Psa 68:19Blessed be the Lord, who daily loadeth us with benefits; even the God of our salvation.KJV)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Now go back to your nap.

I would rather have that name than Edmund. What crappy name is that anyway?


19 posted on 02/10/2012 8:42:16 PM PST by napscoordinator (A moral principled Christian with character is the frontrunner! Congrats Santorum!)
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To: Baynative
Santorum supports abortion like Susan G Komen... by supporting "other" services. Unfortunately, we know that any cash that goes to Planned Parenthood MURDER is going to be used to support that - murder.
20 posted on 02/10/2012 8:57:32 PM PST by TheBattman (Isn't the lesser evil... still evil?)
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To: C. Edmund Wright
Specter, who became a Democrat just months after Santorum’s support.

Specter, true to his promise to Santorum, was key in getting confirmation for SCOTUS Justices Thomas and Alito.

21 posted on 02/10/2012 8:58:40 PM PST by Prokopton
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To: Fred
Santorum also voted in favor of HR 796, the Abortion Clinic Access Bill; his was a “key vote”. HR 796 sought to amend the federal criminal code to prohibit actions directed at clinics which perform abortion procedures, or at those persons attempting to access these clinics.

I decided just to look at this one.

November 18, 1993 - Roll Call 582 - Motion to recommit

PA 1 Rep. Richard J. 'Rick' Santorum Republican Yea
A "Yea" vote was to recommit the bill to committee -- the final chance at killing a bill. Santorum voted to kill the bill.

After this vote, the bill was passed by the DEMOCRATIC house, by an unrecorded VOICE VOTE.

So, I have no idea where you got the idea he voted for the bill. But I have a guess -- the term "key vote". That's a term used by project Vote Smart, but it just means the vote that mattered on the bill. VS just reports the highlights of a bill, and that includes the "key votes".

So that's my guess, you went to project vote smart, looked up key vote, found the roll call, saw Santorum was a "yes", and missed that the only recorded vote was the motion to recommit.

I hope you can get the moderators to pull or edit your post, to correct this error.

22 posted on 02/10/2012 9:04:21 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Fred

this is the best you’ve got ? you keep scraping the bottom of the barrel to trash Santorum...and it ain’t working.


23 posted on 02/10/2012 9:06:49 PM PST by stylin19a (time to Obamanos)
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To: TheBattman

He voted for title X funding. There was no vote to ban PP from getting money from that, and PP did get money from that. To say he voted for PP funding is to seriously mischaracterize the vote.

It’s only in the past few years that conservatives have been able to turn the argument against PP, and it’s been a struggle at that. As Santorum says in a really good smack-down of Ron Paul in a video at the site you link, PP gets money only indirectly from title X, and title X was only part of the appropriations bill that he voted for.

In the end, huge bills have things in them that people oppose, and nobody gets everything they want, and you can’t just vote no on every bill that isn’t exactly what you wanted, or nothing would pass.

I actually appreciate the post, because while it has some really bad information, if you watch the video, I see Rick Santorum effectively and brutally answering a Ron Paul supporter, in a situation where most candidates choke.


24 posted on 02/10/2012 9:14:16 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Fred

Here’s what I hate about posts like yours. I don’t mind talking about this stuff here. But go to Google and type “Rick Santorum Title X”, and the title of this post is the 2nd hit. So FreeRepublic is being used to spread the false claim that Rick Santorum funds planned parenthood.

Sure, that’s what the stupid blog said, but the stupid blog gets no hits, and google doesn’t care about it. FR on the other hand gets lots of hits and now good people will be misled because of this thread.


25 posted on 02/10/2012 9:16:13 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Darren McCarty

The blogger screwed up. He linked to the roll call vote for the original bill’s motion to recommit. I think Santorum voted against it 4 or more times, first on the recommit for HR796 (the vote linked by the blog), then on the voice vote on HR796, and then two votes on S 636.

He did however for for a major appropriations bill of which Title X was a small part, and as Santorum admits in the video, Title X includes money for contraception, and he thinks that is wrong, but won’t vote against the entire year’s appropriations to fight over a line item in Title X that actually had majority support.


26 posted on 02/10/2012 9:19:28 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Darren McCarty

Agree. This is both an untrue and slanderous thread that one may encounter in MoveOn.org websites and should be removed.


27 posted on 02/10/2012 10:33:32 PM PST by Steelfish (ui)
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To: Apollo5600

There is nothing wrong with working against PP in a lawful and respectful manner. We oppose it, let us oppose it within the means available by law. If we block sidewalks and take up the tools of the left, we lose what we truly want - to end government involvement in what it has no business being involved in. Roe v. Wade is the law; until we can overturn that unjust and immoral law, we act within it.


28 posted on 02/11/2012 4:13:58 AM PST by WorkingClassFilth (I'm for Churchill in 1940!)
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To: exist

Insidious half-truth.

HR 796 was entitled, the “Abortion Clinic Access” bill, but it was a Republican proposal intended to create a constitutional alternative to Bill Clinton’s bid to stifle pro-lifers first amendment rights.

It was supported by pro-lifers, and opposed by the pro-abortion crowd.


29 posted on 02/11/2012 5:42:17 AM PST by dangus
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