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What are they hiding? Maine GOP adds missing caucus votes, but wouldn’t release them to the public
FireAndreaMitchelle ^ | February 15, 2012 | Fire Andrea Mitchelle

Posted on 02/16/2012 5:09:11 AM PST by opentalk

I’m not into the Ron Paul, but Ron Paul actually winning the Maine caucus instead of Romney and the GOP hiding it, I’m starting to believe.

According to the Daily Caller, the Maine Republican Party has updated and additional votes “accidentally” omitted from last day’s Maine caucus. However Maine’s state party man Charlie Webster said those votes won’t be publicly released. Why? Do they have something to hide?

“We don’t want any more drama,” Webster told TheDC. “I’ve already got death threats and 1,800 emails.” Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney was declared the victor in Maine over the weekend, claiming a slim 194-vote lead over Texas Rep. Ron Paul.

Paul supporters, however, expressed dismay over errors in tabulating vote counts in various localities, including several towns in Waldo County. That county’s Republican committee passed a motion of censure against Webster on Tuesday.



TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: electionfraud; gop; iowa; maine

1 posted on 02/16/2012 5:09:18 AM PST by opentalk
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To: opentalk

I believe that election results in this country are a hoax. The day will come when people realize how corrupt our society is, what serfs we all are, and how blind we have been to a century’s worth of “benevolent” tyranny.


2 posted on 02/16/2012 5:14:06 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (I am pro-Jesus, anti-abortion, pro-limited government, anti-GOP.)
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To: opentalk
“We don’t want any more drama,”

Must be falling back on the drama protection clause in the constitution.
3 posted on 02/16/2012 5:14:16 AM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: opentalk
However Maine’s state party man Charlie Webster said those votes won’t be publicly released. Why? Do they have something to hide?>

***************

Some people prefer to live and work in darkness & deception...

We tend to let them get away with it...

Perhaps we aren't loud enough yet...
-AND/OR-
We need more & brighter flashlights!

4 posted on 02/16/2012 5:15:19 AM PST by Wings-n-Wind (The main things are the plain things!)
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To: opentalk
Just as the did in Iowa, the GOP declared Romney the “Winner and still Champion” as soon as they could. After all the votes were counted and Santorum was the winner, the GOP had egg on it's collective face. Now to avoid another egging, they just are not going to release the results. Especially if Ron Paul beat their 'chosen one". Ron Paul?????? And they still have the nerve to ask for my money and my vote?
5 posted on 02/16/2012 5:17:02 AM PST by Tupelo ( 2012 TEA PARTYER but no longer a Republican)
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To: opentalk

“However Maine’s state party man Charlie Webster said those votes won’t be publicly released. “

... and this from somebody on OUR side?! This is completely unacceptable. Hopefully conservatives in Maine will make this point loud and clear to these blockheads. Hmmm. Even the Paultards might come in useful, because they want the Geezer to rack up a win.


6 posted on 02/16/2012 5:20:05 AM PST by Pravious
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To: ClearCase_guy

And this is just the R primaries/caucuses.

Just wait until all the votes in half the states (can’t remember which ones they are) are counted by machines produced by a big Obama donor.

I wonder if George Soros has the results of the 2012 election already in his briefcase, like former Honduras president Manuel Zelaya had the results of an election (that never even took place) in his briefcase... (Of course, Zelaya won according to the results in his briefcase...)


7 posted on 02/16/2012 5:21:42 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: opentalk

The Democrats and the GOP-e are counting on the fact that the majority of the populace isn’t paying attention right now. And we who do pay attention are in the minority, so they are counting on that to get ‘their man’ into the White House.

BUT these shenanigans and outright theft of elections by both parties WILL bring about the destruction of those parties. It may not be now but it will be relatively soon, the bad point is that their destruction may also include the destruction of our republic.


8 posted on 02/16/2012 5:27:34 AM PST by The Working Man (The mantra for BO's reign...."No Child Left a Dime")
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To: opentalk

I love how Paulites assume that omitted votes are always for Ron Paul.


9 posted on 02/16/2012 5:27:43 AM PST by Thorliveshere
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To: Tupelo

So far we’ve got Romney falsely declared the winner in Iowa, the votes illegally given winner-takes-all rather than proportional in Florida, the R party of Virginia illegally changing to require petitioner’s addresses without telling anybody so that only Romney and Paul are on their primary ballot, and the Maine R party refusing to let anybody know what missing ballots said.

Those “errors” all benefit Mitt Romney and they stink of democrat desperation. Makes me wonder if the democrats are telling the R’s that Romney has to be the challenger. Especially given that Romneycare FIRST required religious organizations to provide abortions, it’s easy to see why they would want Romney as the R candidate. Then again, the R establishment is probably stupid enough on its own to want Romney. But the crooked junk must be new to them, because they’re not very good at concealing it like the dems are.


10 posted on 02/16/2012 5:29:19 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: Tupelo
Pattern of shenanigans, with GOP and Romney results.
11 posted on 02/16/2012 5:29:30 AM PST by opentalk
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To: Thorliveshere

If those votes were for Mitt Romney do you think the R-e would be hiding them?

The Ron Paul people are just applying logic here.


12 posted on 02/16/2012 5:32:52 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: opentalk

Spare us this Contrived phony scandal !
The real scandal is how does. Bunch of leftists peding Nutter Paul get the opportunity to hijack a GOP straw vote !
We need to shut down the Paul bit straw vote scam operation! And stop these open primaries !


13 posted on 02/16/2012 5:37:10 AM PST by ncalburt (NO MORE WIMPS need to apply to fight the Soros Funded Puppet !H)
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To: opentalk

Spare us this Contrived phony scandal !
The real scandal is how does. Bunch of leftists pedin peddling Nutter Paul get the opportunity to hijack a GOP straw vote !
We need to shut down the Paul bot straw vote scam operation! And stop these open primaries !


14 posted on 02/16/2012 5:37:40 AM PST by ncalburt (NO MORE WIMPS need to apply to fight the Soros Funded Puppet !H)
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To: Tupelo

>>And they still have the nerve to ask for my money and my vote?

I got a RNC fundraising call in the last couple of days.

“You’re barking up the wrong tree with me. I support conservative candidates, not just ones called ‘Republican.’ Straighten out your act on that before you call again.”


15 posted on 02/16/2012 5:41:10 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Thorliveshere

These Democrats try to hijack another open primary to ram thru crazy Paul are fooling No One !
It’s time the GOP to shut down this Obama run primary scam using the useful idiot Paul !
These Zcode Pink operations peddling Racist Paul have to BR stopped !


16 posted on 02/16/2012 5:41:51 AM PST by ncalburt (NO MORE WIMPS need to apply to fight the Soros Funded Puppet !H)
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To: Thorliveshere

These Democrats try to hijack another open primary to ram thru crazy Paul are fooling No One !
It’s time the GOP to shut down this Obama run primary scam using the useful idiot Paul !
These
Code Pink operations peddling Racist Paul have to Be stopped !


17 posted on 02/16/2012 5:42:40 AM PST by ncalburt (NO MORE WIMPS need to apply to fight the Soros Funded Puppet !H)
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To: butterdezillion
If those votes were for Mitt Romney do you think the R-e would be hiding them?

The Ron Paul people are just applying logic here.


You do realize there are two other candidates other than Mitt and Paul, don't you?
18 posted on 02/16/2012 5:44:46 AM PST by Thorliveshere
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To: opentalk
“We don’t want any more drama,” Webster told TheDC

Since when is the truth "drama"???

The GOP has learned from the DNC that they can lie, cheat and steal, and the sheeple will continue to graze.

19 posted on 02/16/2012 5:49:36 AM PST by airborne (Paratroopers! Good to the last drop!)
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To: Thorliveshere
Just guessing the hidden votes are for Paul, why hide the results. Very corrupt regardless. It impacts candidate's fund raising.
20 posted on 02/16/2012 5:51:30 AM PST by opentalk
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To: Thorliveshere

The other candidates weren’t close enough for it to make any difference if the “lost” votes were for them, so the R-e would have no reason to hide them. The only reason for hiding them is if they would show Romney not to be the winner, and the only votes that would do that would be Paul votes.

The R-e hiding these votes is basically an admission that they were Paul votes, logically speaking.


21 posted on 02/16/2012 5:54:08 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: Thorliveshere

The other candidates weren’t close enough for it to make any difference if the “lost” votes were for them, so the R-e would have no reason to hide them. The only reason for hiding them is if they would show Romney not to be the winner, and the only votes that would do that would be Paul votes.

The R-e hiding these votes is basically an admission that they were Paul votes, logically speaking.

And the fact that the people in the areas where the votes were taken are hopping mad about it - mad enough to censure the R head - says they also know who those votes were for.


22 posted on 02/16/2012 5:55:14 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: Pravious

Webster is a toady for Olympia Snowe. No more need be said.


23 posted on 02/16/2012 6:01:03 AM PST by NewHampshireDuo
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To: ncalburt

The Maine caucus was open to registered republicans only.

The Maine GOP instructed the caucus secretaries to NOT reveal the individual town results to the public; but rather send them directly to the party head.

Every discrepancy found so far has been in favor of Mitt Romney.

Charlie Webster, Ruth Summers, and Kim Petengill (3 major players in MaineGOP) all have very close ties to the Snowe machine.


24 posted on 02/16/2012 6:12:24 AM PST by maine yankee (I got my Governor at 'Marden's')
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To: opentalk
“I’ve already got death threats...

Why are the Democrat/socialist/progressive/Marxists getting involved in a Republican primary?

25 posted on 02/16/2012 6:51:09 AM PST by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: butterdezillion

http://www.businessinsider.com/ron-paul-maine-caucuses-gop-takeover-2012-2


26 posted on 02/16/2012 6:54:22 AM PST by opentalk
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To: opentalk

It was obvious when that buffoon stepped to the podium on caucus day that Romney did NOT win the Maine caucus, when he said “many precincts have declined to report their caucus results.”


27 posted on 02/16/2012 7:00:50 AM PST by meadsjn (Sarah 2012, or sooner)
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To: opentalk

It was obvious when that buffoon stepped to the podium on caucus day that Romney did NOT win the Maine caucus, when he said “many precincts have declined to report their caucus results.”


28 posted on 02/16/2012 7:00:54 AM PST by meadsjn (Sarah 2012, or sooner)
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To: opentalk
From business insider link

..people feel threatened —they don't want to see a bunch of kids who may have voted for Barack Obama take over," Wead said. "They feel a sense of ownership over the party —but there has to be an accommodation.

29 posted on 02/16/2012 7:01:44 AM PST by opentalk
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To: opentalk

I saw no oversight of ballots or any way to verify the results.


30 posted on 02/16/2012 7:14:08 AM PST by campaignPete R-CT (and I went to southern Maine to campaign against MITT.)
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To: opentalk

That is a scary proposition, mostly because it seems like the commitment of the leadership (either current leadership or the Ron Paul supporters who are poised to take over positions of power in the R-e) is to this or that candidate rather than to THE RULE OF LAW.

It’s the same thing I fear within government itself. I hear people ask why Linda Lingle - a REPUBLICAN! - would lie about Obama’s records in Hawaii, and I wonder if they can even grasp that when people are lawless it doesn’t matter whether they have an R or a D behind their name. Lawlessness is just lawlessness, and a lawless person does whatever supports their agenda, period. You can’t trust them to deal in truth, only in expedience.

What we need is people and leaders who deal in truth and in the law - not in lawlessness and expedience. Commitment to a particular candidate is dangerous unless it is matched by an even-greater commitment to both truth and the rule of law.

I’ve been saying a long time that the illegal election of the current usurping man of lawlessness in the White House would lead to an epic crisis over the very rule of law. I wish I had been wrong about that, but what we’re seeing in EVERYTHING right now confirms that that’s precisely what the country is dealing with. And it’s a crisis larger than the economic crisis. It is the foundational crisis that has allowed the smaller crises to rise to such lethal levels.


31 posted on 02/16/2012 7:27:04 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: ncalburt
Spare us this Contrived phony scandal ! The real scandal is how does. Bunch of leftists pedin peddling Nutter Paul get the opportunity to hijack a GOP straw vote ! We need to shut down the Paul bot straw vote scam operation! And stop these open primaries !

Good idea. Let's change the rules in the middle of the game, just so Ron Paul is unable to win. Heck, why not simply ban Ron Paul from running?
32 posted on 02/16/2012 1:06:49 PM PST by billybudd
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To: billybudd

Ron Paul entire support I’d from
Democrat party !


33 posted on 02/16/2012 9:19:21 PM PST by ncalburt (NO MORE WIMPS need to apply to fight the Soros Funded Puppet !H)
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To: ncalburt

Huh?


34 posted on 02/20/2012 9:02:30 PM PST by billybudd
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