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Appeal of Obama eligibility decision filed yesterday
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| 1/17/2012
| Doug Book
Posted on 02/17/2012 9:22:14 AM PST by Oldpuppymax
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To: philman_36
I’ll pass - if it is important I am sure you will tell us.
I doubt it is important.
To: Harlan1196
Well you said
Common Law or Civil Law.How about giving me a choice of legal
systems to choose from. That way you're less confusing and it's closer to your original purpose.
And I'm still waiting...you show me the reply and we'll test your theory.
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posted on
02/18/2012 7:23:34 PM PST
by
philman_36
(Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
To: philman_36
To: Harlan1196
Ill pass - if it is important I am sure you will tell us.I have no idea what it means. That's why I'm asking.
I doubt it is important.
I heartily disagree.
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posted on
02/18/2012 7:28:57 PM PST
by
philman_36
(Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
To: Harlan1196
Civil Law IS a legal system.
Well isn't common law a legal system as well?
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posted on
02/18/2012 7:31:38 PM PST
by
philman_36
(Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
To: philman_36
How can you heartily disagree that it is not important if you don’t know what it means?
To: philman_36
Yes - which system do you think America uses?
To: Harlan1196
How can you heartily disagree that it is not important if you dont know what it means?I'll let somebody else far more knowledgeable and learned than I provide my answer...
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All That Is Wrong with Georgia State Judge Michael M. Malihis Decision that Putative President Obama Is a Natural Born CitizenBut there is no evidence before the Court that Obama was born in the United States. The court can only rest its finding of fact on evidence that is part of the court record. The judge tells us that he decided the merits of the plaintiffs claims. But he does not tell us in his decision what evidence he relied upon to consider[] that Obama was born in the United States. The judge considered that Obama was born in the United States. What does considered mean? Clearly, it is not enough for a court to consider evidence or law. It must make a finding after having considered facts and law. The judge simply does not commit to any finding as to where Obama was born. Using the word considered is a cop out from actually addressing the issue.
Snip...
Hence, what evidence did the judge have to rule that Obama is born in the United States? The answer is none.
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posted on
02/18/2012 7:42:05 PM PST
by
philman_36
(Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
To: Harlan1196
Yes - which system do you think America uses?Well it isn't an "either/or" answer.
There's Constitutional Law, from the U.S. Constitution and State Constitutions.
There's statutes and ordinances on the federal, state, or local levels.
There's common law, that being the concept of precedence.
And there's administrative law at the federal, state, and local level.
So it's a little hard to say America's legal "system" is exactly one thing or the other. It's a combination of several things and pretty unique to America.
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posted on
02/18/2012 7:48:12 PM PST
by
philman_36
(Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
To: Harlan1196
And I'm still waiting...you show me the reply and we'll test your theory.
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posted on
02/18/2012 7:49:21 PM PST
by
philman_36
(Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
To: philman_36
Besides Irion’s stipulation that Obama was born in Hawaii and the BC that he entered into evidence?
One lawyer stipulated Obama is born in Hawaii, the other never challenges Obama’s birthplace, and the third lawyer invalidates all her evidence through her incompetence.
With all that, I don’t think the judge is going to spend much time pondering Obama’s birthplace. Lets not forget the standard of proof is much lower than a criminal trial - the judge merely had to believe that the evidence indicated that it was “likely” that Obama was born in Hawaii. It would be easy to reach that level.
To: philman_36
Stay right there - don’t move. I’ll get right back to you.
To: philman_36
Everything you described, in it’s totality, describes a common law system.
btw - here is some interesting trivia I found. Has nothing to do with our conversation but you might find it interesting:
“Louisiana private law is primarily based on civil law. Louisiana is the only U.S. state partially based on French and Spanish codes and ultimately Roman law, as opposed to English common law.[15] In Louisiana, private law was codified into the Louisiana Civil Code. Current Louisiana law has converged considerably with American law, especially in its public law, its judicial system, and adoption of the Uniform Commercial Code and certain legal devices of American common law.”
To: Harlan1196; edge919
Besides Irions stipulation that Obama was born in Hawaii and the BC that he entered into evidence?
For what purpose was the BC entered into evidence by Irion?
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posted on
02/18/2012 8:13:08 PM PST
by
philman_36
(Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
To: TexasBud; All
I just now checked TexasBud’s name to see his history since he is unfamiliar to me and sounded...off...
Anyway, his account is No More.
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posted on
02/18/2012 8:14:02 PM PST
by
little jeremiah
(We will have to go through hell to get out of hell)
To: Harlan1196
Everything you described, in its totality, describes a common law system.
Really?! How is that? How can Constitutional law be part of a common law system?
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posted on
02/18/2012 8:16:29 PM PST
by
philman_36
(Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
To: Harlan1196
Wikipedia is your source?
What a tool.
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posted on
02/18/2012 8:17:18 PM PST
by
Godebert
(NO PERSON EXCEPT A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN!)
To: Harlan1196
They didn’t challenge Obama’s eligibility due to his father’s birthplace, but due to his father’s CITIZENSHIP. And again, the judge can’t arbitrarily decide a piece of evidence is good in one case but not in another. Either the alleged birth certificate has probative value or it doesn’t. Since no CERTIFIED certificate was shown in court, it CAN’T have probative value. The judge’s rejection of the two citizen parent argument has no legal foundation. The court’s job is to say what the law is, not what he thinks it should be by playing connect the dots.
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posted on
02/18/2012 8:28:27 PM PST
by
edge919
To: Harlan1196
Besides Irions stipulation that Obama was born in Hawaii and the BC that he entered into evidence?For what purpose was the BC entered into evidence by Irion?
He stipulated he was born in Hawaii so what was the need to enter the BC into evidence?
Kind of painted yourself into a corner there didn't ya?
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posted on
02/18/2012 8:32:09 PM PST
by
philman_36
(Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
To: Harlan1196; philman_36; rolling_stone
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posted on
02/18/2012 9:10:36 PM PST
by
Brown Deer
(Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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