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Carrier Disposal Proves Difficult to Navy
Naval Open Source INTelligence ^ | 2/20/2012 | Naval Open Source INTelligence

Posted on 02/20/2012 10:16:12 PM PST by U-238

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To: U-238

Obama will probably give them to the Egyptians for their navy.


51 posted on 02/21/2012 7:27:21 AM PST by ncfool (OMG 2012)
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52 posted on 02/21/2012 7:56:48 AM PST by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: joe fonebone

I served on JFK, 86 - 90, when she was still a good ship in Norfolk, before Philadelphia Naval Shipyard screwed her up and then the Navy sent her to Mayport and cut all funding for upkeep.

I saw her after decommissioning. She was towed up to Norfolk and sat at a pier at the Naval Station for about 6 months until her space was ready in Philly. It was depressing to see her daily at the pier with all the rust and her mast cut down and welded to the flight deck.

BTW, I also served on Nimitz (80 - 84) and Ike (93 - 96).


53 posted on 02/21/2012 8:57:50 AM PST by fredhead (It's my Herbie year...check out the number on the side of the famous VW.)
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To: fredhead
I served on JFK, 86 - 90, when she was still a good ship in Norfolk, before Philadelphia Naval Shipyard screwed her up and then the Navy sent her to Mayport and cut all funding for upkeep.

Post Gulf War One was not kind to any of the conventionals. Yea they did cut funding too all of them actually and it bit them on the sitter right after 9/11. Two carriers unable to get away was not a fault of command. You can't fix what you don't have to fix with.

Something interesting about the Mayport order. In mid 1980 we were officially given the order that upon our return from the 1981 MED Cruise which turned out to be I.O. also AMERICA was to homeport in Mayport. I got out in October 80 long before that was too happen. We were just completing overhaul then. But reading ships history after that I suspect Reagan's SECNAV or higher obviously rescinded that order.

JFK after the Philly overhaul and botched S.L.E.P. was made a reserve carrier unofficially. Toward the last she also got cannibalized even while astill in commission so the rumors go. The politics toward the Navy especially the conventional carriers from 1990-last one out was horrible. They were very lucky some major causalities didn't happen and cost a lot of lives.

One last note. In fall of 79 when the Iranian Hostage Crisis happened JFK drew short straw. I remember that day real well. We went to Closed Ship for several hours and at first not told of WTH was happening. Then the old man told us and said we are on standby to possibly get underway. It was a fast decision evidently as by that evening we were told JFK was going and we were headed to dry-dock on schedule.

54 posted on 02/21/2012 10:43:09 AM PST by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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the wors[t] thing that you can hear in a boiler room is complete silence.

New one on me, and very strange. And you're right, that's spooky.

So, even if the basic freq is above your audio range, the amplitude of the steam-scream "deafens" you to all other sounds? That really is strange!

Thanx for posting. Filing under "things I never knew".

55 posted on 02/21/2012 12:21:50 PM PST by lentulusgracchus
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So, even if the basic freq is above your audio range, the amplitude of the steam-scream "deafens" you to all other sounds?

That's what we were told in Fire Fighting School and by ones on ship who trained us in Damage Control. Even when the boilers are shut down you'll still should hear some operational noises like fire pumps etc. If you don't hear anything you have Big Trouble. When they are operational you'll hear loud operational noises requiring hearing protection.

56 posted on 02/21/2012 1:46:07 PM PST by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: U-238

U-238, are you telling me China is exporting scrap metal TO the United States?? If that’s true, why are we, the United States, exported some much TO China?? In the Bay Area, San Francisco/Oakland, the new Bay Bridge is being built in China and assembled on site there. I have a friend, who is a welder, who says the welds done in China are trash. I’m pretty sure I’m going to avoid driving over it when it’s done.


57 posted on 02/22/2012 8:54:03 PM PST by Nitehawk0325 (Conservatives over liberals every time. No discussion, no argument, no liberals)
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To: Nitehawk0325

We are exporting scrap along with waste paper to China. They are our both number one exporter to China


58 posted on 02/22/2012 8:56:01 PM PST by U-238
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To: Nitehawk0325

To answer the second part of your question, I really do not know.


59 posted on 02/22/2012 8:57:06 PM PST by U-238
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To: U-238

Sorry, I mis-read your first post.


60 posted on 02/22/2012 11:59:31 PM PST by Nitehawk0325 (Conservatives over liberals every time. No discussion, no argument, no liberals)
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To: Nitehawk0325

Its OK.


61 posted on 02/23/2012 12:00:31 AM PST by U-238
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