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Rick Santorum Has A Women Problem. But Does Mitt Romney Have A Problem With Men?
Telegraph(UK) ^ | February 26, 2012 | Mike Smithson

Posted on 02/26/2012 7:03:49 PM PST by Steelfish

Rick Santorum Has A Women Problem. But Does Mitt Romney Have A Problem With Men? By Mike Smithson February 26th, 2012

Since a lacklustre performance in the Republican candidates' CNN debate on Wednesday night, Rick Santorum has seen his poll numbers fall ahead of Tuesday's Michigan and Arizona primaries. In surveys carried out after the event, Mitt Romney improved his position against Santorum by an average of about 4%.

This has led the electoral and polling expert at the New York Times, Nate Silver, to project that Santorum now has just a 33% chance of winning Michigan and only an 11% chance of triumphing in the winner-takes-all Arizona primary.

But there was – amidst the general gloom – one survey of likely Arizona primary voters which had Santorum improving on his position ten days earlier. The American Research Group put him just four points behind in the state, suggesting that he might have a fighting chance.

An aspect of the polling detail, however, highlighted a trend that we have seen in many surveys during the past month: Santorum is doing reasonably well with male voters but he is miles behind with women.

Thus in the ARG survey, Santorum led Romney by 43% to 32% with the men in the sample, while Romney led Santorum by 47% to 26% with the women.

Gender gaps are not unusual in political polling but it is rare to see one so large. This looks as though Santorum's opposition to contraception and his traditional views on the role of women is having a big impact.

The contraception issued featured strongly in Wednesday's debate.

(Excerpt) Read more at blogs.telegraph.co.uk ...


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The chromosone factor sent Gingrich into the tumbleweeds, and its now affecting, although to a much lesser extent, the prospects of a Santorum primary nomination. As I have said before much to the chagrin of die-hard Gingrich fans, that if Gingrich withdrew, Santorum will get the bulk of male votes (since only males seem to prefer Gingrich) and overtake Romney.
1 posted on 02/26/2012 7:03:52 PM PST by Steelfish
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To: Steelfish

Newt would rather see Romney nominated than withdraw. So would Saint Rick.


2 posted on 02/26/2012 7:09:30 PM PST by Theodore R. (Forget the others: It's Santorum's turn, less baggage, articulate, passionate)
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To: Steelfish
Santorum is over.

He did it to himself with his hapless commentary.

At least Gingrich proved he could beat Romney is an actualy Primary with delegates at stake.

To the best of my knowlege all Santorum has won is either two states with caucus or another 3 without ANY delegates at stake...you know, those that count for nothing.

This race is still wide open and anyone could win it.

3 posted on 02/26/2012 7:13:08 PM PST by Mariner (u)
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To: Mariner

Have you seen Gingrich’s poll numbers in MI, AZ, WA, PA, AL, TN? He is not even in the top two.


4 posted on 02/26/2012 7:15:30 PM PST by Steelfish (ui)
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To: Steelfish

There might be something to that.

Remember in the polygamist communities, the girls are/were glommed onto young, by elder males to join their ... harems for lack of a better word.

Some of the young men, were actually banished.

Those other men, were to those harem-building elders (rather like the GOPe) competition.

To be opposed, or very least marginalized as competition.


5 posted on 02/26/2012 7:15:44 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network ("The door is open" PALIN 2012)
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To: Mariner

You spend a lot of time bashing Santorum.

Just saying.


6 posted on 02/26/2012 7:16:38 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network ("The door is open" PALIN 2012)
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To: Steelfish

Santorum is a loser, and lose he will — in Michigan as well as Arizona.

For all the hoopla about his “surge”, he has won essentially nothing so far.

I’ll check in again after Tuesday and we’ll talk about it then, ‘k?


7 posted on 02/26/2012 7:24:20 PM PST by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: Mariner

Gingrich had a cakewalk next to the beating Santorum is taking and you know what? Santorum’s still smiling.

Although I supported him, Gingrich is the one who is over. He needs to salvage his dignity and withdraw to defeat Romney. He needs to show some class and endorse Santorum just like Perry did for him. Not much difference in their numbers.


8 posted on 02/26/2012 7:24:34 PM PST by Kenny
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To: Steelfish

I wish people don’t become detached from the real world when they summarize poll statistics. Are you saying the men that do support Romney or the woman who do support Rick aren’t really men or female?


9 posted on 02/26/2012 7:27:14 PM PST by 4rcane
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
Santorum is cabinet level at best, not Presidential. He will go along to get along when the rubber hits the road within the GOP; he has proven that already. While Rick has great social conservative values, his governing capacity is lacking when pressed. He will side with whomever is behind him with the most strength and those of you supporting him for your personal beliefs aligning with his will be disappointed when he sides with the GOP-e time and time again.

Flame away...

10 posted on 02/26/2012 7:30:23 PM PST by Michael Barnes (Obamaa+ Downgrade)
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To: Mariner

Currently, Romney has 112 delegates, and Santorum has 72.


11 posted on 02/26/2012 7:31:41 PM PST by txrefugee
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To: Mariner

Gingrich’s sole contribution to all of this is to ensure Romney gets nominated.


12 posted on 02/26/2012 7:32:42 PM PST by RIghtwardHo
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To: Nervous Tick; Cringing Negativism Network; Mariner

Absolutely on point. This would have been an uphill task for Romney, if Gingrich had seen the handwriting on the wall after Santorum’s spectacular trifecta and withdrawn. The bulk of Gingrich’s nearly all male voters would have moved onto the Santorum column. No question in my mind that if Romney pulls off victories in AZ and MI, he needs to send Gingrich a bouquet of roses, at least.


13 posted on 02/26/2012 7:36:21 PM PST by Steelfish (ui)
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To: Nervous Tick

How is he polling in TN, AL, PA, OK, TX, etc.?


14 posted on 02/26/2012 7:37:26 PM PST by MSF BU
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To: Michael Barnes

If you mean that Santorum lacks that ruthless attack instinct and willingness to use underhanded tactics to “win” by tearing down every other candidate starting from even as far back as turning against Sarah Palin - resulting in Obama’s victory - in order not to have to face her as an opponent this year.

Yes I agree Santorum’s not that sort of guy. He’s sort of simple about things.

Romney is simple too, except he’s just about one thing:

Mitt Romney isn’t about any particular belief, Mitt Romney isn’t about any sort of position.

Mitt Romney isn’t left or right.

He’s not about Patriotism, or capitalism.

Mitt Romney, is about Mitt Romney.


15 posted on 02/26/2012 7:39:02 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network ("The door is open" PALIN 2012)
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To: Steelfish

Mittens has a problem with me and all conservative women.


16 posted on 02/26/2012 7:39:25 PM PST by VictoryGal (Never give up, never surrender! REMEMBER NEDA)
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To: Steelfish

Presumably Santorum has a problem with NOW type women, who support “a woman’s right to abortion,” and all the rest of that leftist agenda.

Presumably Newt has a problem with women who are concerned about his multiple affairs and divorces. Maybe he has now seen the light and straightened out, but there is a lot of stuff there for the media to use against him.

The first group of women are mostly going to vote Democrat, anyway. But if the second group of women turn against the candidate, then the candidate is in trouble, because those are conservative votes that we need to win.

Yes, the media are hitting Rick hard, and lying about his positions to make him seem like something out of the Inquisition. But he can, and will, hit back—right where Obama is vulnerable, as an extremist abortion-lover who never saw a baby he didn’t want to kill. Contrary to what the women at NOW or Planned Parenthood may say, that is not a popular position with a majority of voters. Obama never would have been elected if McCain had pushed him on those issues. But McCain was never really strong on them to begin with. And he refused to attack Hussein on anything.


17 posted on 02/26/2012 7:41:03 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: MSF BU

>> How is he polling in TN, AL, PA, OK, TX, etc.?

FRiend, you might as well be asking “Which way will the wind blow tomorrow, next week, next month?”


18 posted on 02/26/2012 7:43:03 PM PST by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: Nervous Tick

Would you like for us to talk about your candidate like you do Santorum? This is nothing new, I’ve seen it since Newt urged Santorum to quit.
Electability for any of these four is an assertion without data.
Gingrich won’t win anything outside Dixie, and if he loses any of those, he should withdraw and support Rick.
Let the flaming begin.


19 posted on 02/26/2012 7:45:29 PM PST by steve8714 (Yoda's speech to Luke; copied from Jack Webb in "The D.I.")
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To: Steelfish

But Does Mitt Romney Have A Problem With Men?
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You mean besides his obvious problem with red blooded American women ???


20 posted on 02/26/2012 7:47:34 PM PST by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: VictoryGal; Cicero

I like Cicero’s analysis and may explain the women vote as it relates to Santorum and Gingrich. I also think the Mormon female vote (and perhaps the male vote) is 100% for Romney.


21 posted on 02/26/2012 7:49:37 PM PST by Steelfish (ui)
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To: steve8714

Newt NEVER urged Santorum to quit. NEVER. Media urged Newt to comment on Santorum staying in the race. No matter what Newt said, it was intrepreted by media that he was calling for him withdraw.


22 posted on 02/26/2012 7:51:47 PM PST by Toespi
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To: Nervous Tick

“Santorum is a loser, and lose he will — in Michigan as well as Arizona.”

I hope not. I don’t like him, but I detest Bishop Willard.


23 posted on 02/26/2012 7:59:27 PM PST by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans: Don't read their lips; but watch their hands!)
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To: Theodore R.; Kenny; RIghtwardHo

” Newt would rather see Romney nominated than withdraw. So would Saint Rick. “

One certainty is that Romney wins if Newt pulled out.

Santorum shot his mouth off in the primary with what should have been enacted in the White House! To win the primary desperately trying to bribe conservatives with family values, he destroyed himself with everyone else.

He could have run on the damned issues and tried to win in the trenches on JOBS and then governed with his values as a president.

You didn’t see Obama, or any other seasoned pol with an agenda, revealing his true colors in the primary did you?

Obama didn’t blab his every intent, or emote his Marxist agenda anywhere near to the reach Rick has blabbed and emoted his treatise on contraception.

We knew this was coming, for crying out loud.

Besides, what ground did Santorum ever break for family values when he could have, back when he was in office. How big a deal was it really, back then. Not much.


24 posted on 02/26/2012 8:11:06 PM PST by RitaOK (LET 'ER RIP, NEWT. Newt knows where all the bodies are buried, because he buried them.)
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To: Mariner
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2851667/posts
25 posted on 02/26/2012 8:12:46 PM PST by seekthetruth (I want a Commander In Chief who honors and supports our Military!)
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To: RitaOK

Yeah, shame on Santorum for saying what he actually thinks. What kind of imbecile would try to defend God, marriage, the working class of this country and the Constitution.

He brought it all on himself for sure.


26 posted on 02/26/2012 8:17:57 PM PST by Kenny
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To: Kenny

” What kind of imbecile would try to defend God, marriage, the working class of this country and the Constitution. “

You said it. Only an imbecile would throw the battle by revealing his location.

Don’t pull that crap with me. You missed the part wherein Apostle Paul warns, “be wiley as a serpent, gentle as a lamb”???? And, “I am all things to all men....”

TRANSLATION: Don’t call in fighter planes when YOU know you are the target.


27 posted on 02/26/2012 8:25:48 PM PST by RitaOK (LET 'ER RIP, NEWT. Newt knows where all the bodies are buried, because he buried them.)
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To: Toespi

Jan. 31. Who could he have been speaking of? It’s that colossal arrogance folks dislike.


28 posted on 02/26/2012 8:37:27 PM PST by steve8714 (Yoda's speech to Luke; copied from Jack Webb in "The D.I.")
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To: RitaOK
TRANSLATION: Don’t call in fighter planes when YOU know you are the target.

And when exactly should Santorum "tip his hand" that he's a Christian who believes in family values, honest work, and freedom of religion. Guarantee the fighter planes would be carpet bombing by the time Obama got done with him.

Or maybe the message is to never bring it up. To deny your faith in order to appease the left. Well, count me out.

29 posted on 02/26/2012 8:38:47 PM PST by Kenny
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To: Kenny

” And when exactly should Santorum “tip his hand” that he’s a Christian who believes in family values, honest work, and freedom of religion.”

Look, it was foolish for Rick to get into the minutiae of contraceptive practices at every stump and in the debate, and expect to get a crown and a pass.

He could have taken the road every other experienced pol would take who would have spotted instantly such a glaring trap set before them.

He could have hammered home the governmental assault on the Freedom of Religion in America, and said his personal religious views were his own. He could have slammed the home run Newt executed instead, and turned the question trap on Obama never hearing a question on his after birth infanticide vote in Illinois.

Heck no. Rick makes the minutiae of contraception the centerpiece of his campaign, for days.

Women voters have reportedly already been in Romney’s camp for some time. Why antagonize women voters, few who are even aware of Humana Vitae, probably can’t spell it, nor share the opinion that preventing pregnancy is actually abortive and not preventive of conception at all.

The “right time”, in a Godless society, would be after attaining elective office, not BEFORE getting there.

Oh, Rick *was* in elective office. How did that work out for family values? Not much.

Sorry to be cranky.


30 posted on 02/26/2012 8:59:13 PM PST by RitaOK (LET 'ER RIP, NEWT. Newt knows where all the bodies are buried, because he buried them.)
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To: VictoryGal

Mittens has a problem with me and all conservative women.

Love being a Conservative woman too, VG. But honestly sometimes when I look at the majority of the “women” I know..I’m embarrassed of the gender.


31 posted on 02/26/2012 9:03:59 PM PST by Mountain Mary ("This is OUR country and WE will decide"... Mark Levin)
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To: steve8714
Would you like for us to talk about your candidate like you do Santorum?

Oh, please, Steve. You already do talk about Gingrich that way. Not only the Santorum supporters in the forum -- but also YOU personally.

32 posted on 02/27/2012 1:53:26 AM PST by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: Nervous Tick

Only in response. We try not to hijack threads, because it’s not all about Rick or Newt.


33 posted on 02/27/2012 4:37:29 AM PST by steve8714 (Yoda's speech to Luke; copied from Jack Webb in "The D.I.")
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To: Nervous Tick

Perhaps you should do a little more research, look at the posting to which I was responding.


34 posted on 02/27/2012 4:39:28 AM PST by steve8714 (Yoda's speech to Luke; copied from Jack Webb in "The D.I.")
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To: Mariner

Mariner, look at the numbers. Let’s be real about this so we can beat romney and then we can let Newt shred Rick.


35 posted on 02/27/2012 4:47:47 AM PST by Caipirabob (I say we take off and Newt the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure...)
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To: steve8714

Perhaps you should take responsibility for your actions.


36 posted on 02/27/2012 4:58:10 AM PST by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: Nervous Tick

I disagree. There are concentrations of Reagan Republicans in all of those states and they can smell a limp wrister a mile away, and that hurts Romney. Romney will certainly do well in Maryland, Delaware, Maine, Massachusetts, Illinois, New York, probably California...all states that the GOP will never carry. The best way to depress GOP turnout is to nominate a half-asser.


37 posted on 02/27/2012 7:20:07 AM PST by MSF BU
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To: RitaOK
Sorry to be cranky.

No problem, we're all on the cranky side lately. It's against our nature to be led through the gate with the rest of the sheeple That's a good thing.

I've been on the angry side lately as well due to the Ruling Class asserting their control but now's not the time to give up. This is still America and even though the elite hate it, the people are still in charge.

38 posted on 02/27/2012 6:21:21 PM PST by Kenny
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To: Kenny

Thank you for your gracious reply.


39 posted on 02/27/2012 6:29:30 PM PST by RitaOK (LET 'ER RIP, NEWT. Newt knows where all the bodies are buried, because he buried them.)
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