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Facebook message, apparently from suspected Ohio high school shooter: ‘Die, all of you’
The Daily Caller ^ | 2/27/12 | Alex Pappas

Posted on 02/27/2012 12:45:46 PM PST by ColdOne

A Facebook page appearing to belong to T.J. Lane, the suspected shooter at Chardon High School in Ohio, includes an essay describing a fantasy massacre that ends with the chilling words, “Die, all of you.”

Lane, suspected of shooting classmates at his school Monday morning, appears to have taken to his Facebook page on Dec. 30 to post a rant about a “mistreated” man who takes revenge on the “the vermin in the street.”

“He longed for only one thing, the world to bow at his feet,” the posting reads. “They too should feel his secret fear. The dismal drear.”

On Jan. 20, the Facebook user — with the name “Tj Lane” — claimed he wrote the post while at school, commenting underneath the post, “much obliged to all who ‘liked’ this. Wrote it myself in class one day.”

Although this particular “Tj Lane” doesn’t say on his Facebook profile where he is from, at least 38 of his Facebook friends self-identify as being from Chardon, Ohio — including at least six who attend Chardon High School.

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KEYWORDS: bullies; bullying; chardon; chardonhs; ohio; schoolshooting; tjlane

1 posted on 02/27/2012 12:45:51 PM PST by ColdOne
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To: ColdOne

He sounds like a typical liberal


2 posted on 02/27/2012 12:48:25 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: ColdOne

Other sites have indicated the kid was ‘bullied’ and was an ‘outcast’.

Waiting to hear he was gay and whatver else is the current vic of the day....


3 posted on 02/27/2012 12:48:48 PM PST by ASOC (What are you doing now that Mexico has become OUR Chechnya?)
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To: ASOC

Get rid of zero tolerance for violence. Let kids scrap every now and then with only a detention or whatnot. You’ll quickly see that shootings like this become a thing of the past because kids aren’t letting it build up inside them until they explode.


4 posted on 02/27/2012 12:51:32 PM PST by bolobaby
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To: bolobaby

Good point.


5 posted on 02/27/2012 12:57:34 PM PST by Joe the Pimpernel (Islam is a religion of peace, and Moslems reserve the right to behead anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: ColdOne
“He longed for only one thing, the world to bow at his feet,”

Another Obama in the making.

6 posted on 02/27/2012 1:00:30 PM PST by Rudder
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To: ColdOne

WTF!? HUH?


7 posted on 02/27/2012 1:00:44 PM PST by Doc Savage ("I've shot people I like a lot more,...for a lot less!" Raylan Givins)
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To: ASOC

After reading his violent fantasy essay, it sounds to me like he was the bully.
And, of course, when someone shows up at school and shoots other kids...doesn’t that make them a bully?


8 posted on 02/27/2012 1:19:03 PM PST by Scotswife
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To: Scotswife
...doesn’t that make them a bully?

Not in their minds it doesn't. Many who get to this point view themselves as victims 'breaking free' to become an 'angel of vengeance' on people they see as having 'mistreated' them.

As someone who was mercilessly teased, bullied, and picked on in high school...I almost got to that point. Thankfully, right after high school, things calmed down quite a bit. However, during that time, I wanted my enemies to 'pay'...and I didn't care what form the 'payment' took. Even so...not in my wildest fantasies of vengeance did I ever consider using a gun (it was the early 80's).

9 posted on 02/27/2012 1:26:31 PM PST by hoagy62 ("Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered..."-Thomas Paine. 1776)
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To: Rudder

Too bad he won’t make it to the White House so he can destroy Western civilization.

Omoslem got that job.


10 posted on 02/27/2012 1:32:32 PM PST by LyinLibs (If victims of islam were more "islamophobic," maybe they'd still be alive.)
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To: Scotswife

At a minimum an Ahole.

Probably had self esteem issues.

In my book, Ahole’s should have poor self esteem.


11 posted on 02/27/2012 1:44:27 PM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie
In my book, Ahole’s should have poor self esteem.

Folks like this usually suffer from a surfeit of over self-esteem.
12 posted on 02/27/2012 1:45:56 PM PST by aruanan
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

you are correct...our president for example...


13 posted on 02/27/2012 1:45:56 PM PST by Scotswife
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

“In my book, Ahole’s should have poor self esteem.”

I agree - see tagline.


14 posted on 02/27/2012 1:48:52 PM PST by Gil4 (Sometimes it's not low self-esteem - it's just accurate self-assessment.)
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To: ColdOne

He was ‘bullied’.

They were MURDERED!


15 posted on 02/27/2012 2:03:04 PM PST by Beowulf9
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To: ASOC

Foamy The Squirrel has a commentary on bullies at school and a follow up commentary.

(warning: bad language)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZCUJEWuyow&feature=relmfu

Follow up
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R95pTekso_Y


16 posted on 02/27/2012 2:03:55 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

ever noticed how these maladjusted, frequently antisocial kids do this and the world reactsnwith sympathy over their being Bullied or Outcast.

He was an outcast for a good reason. Now he is a killer. Normal kids probavly shunned him for good reason.


17 posted on 02/27/2012 2:16:50 PM PST by cajungirl
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To: ADemocratNoMore; Akron Al; arbee4bush; agrace; ATOMIC_PUNK; Badeye; Bikers4Bush; BlindedByTruth; ...

Ohio ping.


18 posted on 02/27/2012 2:20:09 PM PST by Las Vegas Dave ("All 57 or is it 58 states must stand together and defeat O-bozo. VOTE HIM OUT!!")
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To: Beowulf9

He’ll learn the real meaning of “bullied” when he gets to prison.


19 posted on 02/27/2012 2:47:18 PM PST by SnuffaBolshevik (In a tornado, even turkeys can fly.)
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To: ColdOne

Yet every year they play Halloween and all it’s sequels. Saw, and all the sequels. Scream and all it’s sequels. So many others, but they deny it has any effect on the culture.


20 posted on 02/27/2012 3:10:24 PM PST by Beowulf9
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To: cajungirl

It’s one thing to shun an individual but to bully them is another. Would have done the same thing if the group had simply shunned him?


21 posted on 02/27/2012 3:31:39 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: ColdOne

In the book, “Columbine,” I read how either Klebold or the other kid had written some very similar death-oriented, macabre stories to the point that the teacher was concerned. This kid writes his fantasy about people dying and kids “like” it on facebook.

It’s time for our kids to learn that when other people write these sorts of things, it MEANS something. It is NOT normal.

All of this dark stuff is not normal. I don’t care what anybody says. Today’s mental health professionals are not doing their jobs. They come in AFTER the fact. They need to start recognizing “evil” in its incarnation. They can counsel all they want, but I’d rather have my kid alive than all the counseling in the world.


22 posted on 02/27/2012 3:44:35 PM PST by Paved Paradise
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To: Beowulf9

Yep. I agree.


23 posted on 02/27/2012 3:45:46 PM PST by Paved Paradise
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To: Paved Paradise

The kid at Va Tech wrote stuff like this too.


24 posted on 02/27/2012 3:50:36 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: ColdOne

He was writing in verse.


25 posted on 02/27/2012 4:03:02 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Yes, he did. There are almost always signs or clues, but someone has to be paying attention.


26 posted on 02/27/2012 4:03:03 PM PST by Paved Paradise
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To: Las Vegas Dave
Thank God that the kid didn't have much range time. This could have been so much worse, but not for the parents of the dead child. Prayers up for all those involved and the school and students. May the survivors recover completely, please God.  
27 posted on 02/27/2012 5:16:52 PM PST by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: cajungirl
Normal kids probavly shunned him for good reason.

A friend of mine who in her youth was "different" but had later matured once commented, "When I was a kid I couldn't understand why others avoided me. Now I know why."

Now doubt that insight is painful. I can relate -- having been the "weird" kid in school and either attracting bullies and predators or driving people away.

While no one should be physically picked on, these kinds of kids unfortunately create for themselves a vicious circle: too immature to make or sustain friendships, then too frustrated because they're either lonely or persecuted. They don't seem to understand consequences.

28 posted on 02/27/2012 5:27:40 PM PST by MoochPooch (I'm a compassionate cynic.)
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To: MoochPooch

Sorry — “no doubt.”


29 posted on 02/27/2012 5:29:24 PM PST by MoochPooch (I'm a compassionate cynic.)
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To: ASOC

One I read claimed it was about drugs. He was sold some bad stuff by a group.

His facebook message shows he views humans as scum or pests - the same as in liberalism’s eugentics philosophy that has come out of humanism. A lot of sick people are picking up on that murderous mentality. We have czars in the White house who think like this. I think they are feeding off one another and becoming bold.

Some of them are “scientists” who have access to serious means to act on it in a big way. As they create new super contageous viruses to hand out to other researchers, everyone should be concerned about that. Humanism has no ethics and humanism influences science and socialists. The ends justifies the means and they want their earth depopulated - one way or another.


30 posted on 02/27/2012 6:03:59 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: MoochPooch

Insightful post.

I have a personal experience with this kind of kid who is just like the kind who does this stuff. He threatens, is creepy, flouts the rules and makes death threats. but his parents think he is bullied,,,he is not, he is shunned.

When he is caught, his parents intimidate the school to get him off and then he ups the bad behavior. He will kill someday, I have no doubt.

But he isnt just a weird kid who doesnt fit in. He is a psychopath.


31 posted on 02/27/2012 7:51:10 PM PST by cajungirl
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To: MoochPooch

Insightful post.

I have a personal experience with this kind of kid who is just like the kind who does this stuff. He threatens, is creepy, flouts the rules and makes death threats. but his parents think he is bullied,,,he is not, he is shunned.

When he is caught, his parents intimidate the school to get him off and then he ups the bad behavior. He will kill someday, I have no doubt.

But he isnt just a weird kid who doesnt fit in. He is a psychopath.


32 posted on 02/27/2012 7:51:26 PM PST by cajungirl
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To: MoochPooch

Insightful post.

I have a personal experience with this kind of kid who is just like the kind who does this stuff. He threatens, is creepy, flouts the rules and makes death threats. but his parents think he is bullied,,,he is not, he is shunned.

When he is caught, his parents intimidate the school to get him off and then he ups the bad behavior. He will kill someday, I have no doubt.

But he isnt just a weird kid who doesnt fit in. He is a psychopath.


33 posted on 02/27/2012 7:51:28 PM PST by cajungirl
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To: MoochPooch

Insightful post.

I have a personal experience with this kind of kid who is just like the kind who does this stuff. He threatens, is creepy, flouts the rules and makes death threats. but his parents think he is bullied,,,he is not, he is shunned.

When he is caught, his parents intimidate the school to get him off and then he ups the bad behavior. He will kill someday, I have no doubt.

But he isnt just a weird kid who doesnt fit in. He is a psychopath.


34 posted on 02/27/2012 7:51:28 PM PST by cajungirl
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To: Jack Hydrazine

see my post,,,I think this kind of kid may interpret being bullied as something like being called out for his behavior. But I dont know much about him other than he is a killer.


35 posted on 02/27/2012 7:54:15 PM PST by cajungirl
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To: Jack Hydrazine

see my post,,,I think this kind of kid may interpret being bullied as something like being called out for his behavior. But I dont know much about him other than he is a killer.


36 posted on 02/27/2012 7:54:15 PM PST by cajungirl
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To: Jack Hydrazine

see my post,,,I think this kind of kid may interpret being bullied as something like being called out for his behavior. But I dont know much about him other than he is a killer.


37 posted on 02/27/2012 7:54:19 PM PST by cajungirl
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To: Jack Hydrazine

see my post,,,I think this kind of kid may interpret being bullied as something like being called out for his behavior. But I dont know much about him other than he is a killer.


38 posted on 02/27/2012 7:54:19 PM PST by cajungirl
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To: cajungirl

sorry for the multiple posts! this sympathy for a killer as a poor bullying victim upsets me.


39 posted on 02/27/2012 7:57:39 PM PST by cajungirl
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To: cajungirl

We’re all going to make fun of you now until graduation.


40 posted on 02/27/2012 8:02:08 PM PST by ClearCase_guy ("And the public gets what the public wants" -- The Jam)
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To: Las Vegas Dave

http://www.recordpub.com/news/article/5162373


41 posted on 02/29/2012 5:35:04 AM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: Paved Paradise

———In the book, “Columbine,” I read how either Klebold or the other kid had written some very similar death-oriented, macabre stories to the point that the teacher was concerned. This kid writes his fantasy about people dying and kids “like” it on facebook.
It’s time for our kids to learn that when other people write these sorts of things, it MEANS something. It is NOT normal.-——

These days, it falls within normative behavior.

Depressing, violent, macabre, literature is assigned reading in government schools.

Take a look at the school library, town library “young adult” section, or B&N teen section. There’s little else.

It has its effect, as I know of very young children obsessed with this garbage.

In this case, it appears that the boy’s father has a history of violence.


42 posted on 02/29/2012 5:44:50 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Viva Christo Rey!)
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To: hoagy62

-——As someone who was mercilessly teased, bullied, and picked on in high school...I almost got to that point———

This is all that junior high was, when I attended a govt school in a wealthy town, back in the 70s. Parents didn’t believe that this would happen “in our town.” Administrators didn’t talk about it. (Surprise!) And teachers looked the other way.

I was one of the kids who walked away, and kept his head down. I apologize. I still feel the shame for doing nothing, 35 years later.


43 posted on 02/29/2012 5:54:58 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Viva Christo Rey!)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

I don’t necessarily have a problem with macabre literature. I was taught Poe and history and life itself is full of death. Children must confront its reality. However, when the culture is absorbed in it, that is NOT good.

Look at the two most widely read novels (series, actually) that kids have been hooked on in the last few years. Unlike Tarzan of the Apes, the Nancy Drew books, and such, our kids are fed nothing but witchcraft and sorcery via “Harry Potter” and now the violence from “The Hunger Games.”

We are to think on these things: whatever is lovely, pure, noble, good, etc.


44 posted on 02/29/2012 6:07:46 AM PST by Paved Paradise
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To: Paved Paradise

——our kids are fed nothing but witchcraft and sorcery via “Harry Potter” and now the violence from “The Hunger Games.”———

And that’s just the tip of the iceberg. I challenge parents to look through the fantasy aisle at B&N. Read the dust jackets.

-——We are to think on these things: whatever is lovely, pure, noble, good, etc.———

Absolutely.


45 posted on 02/29/2012 6:17:30 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Viva Christo Rey!)
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To: cajungirl

The pics I have seen of him reminds me of the Muzzy terrorists with their thousand mile stare of death.


46 posted on 02/29/2012 7:43:49 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: cajungirl
But he isnt just a weird kid who doesnt fit in. He is a psychopath.

I have known several kids like that over the years (and, like many of us, have studied this personality type out of fascination). And enabling parents only magnify the problem (Joren Van der Sloot comes to mind).

The question is "how do you prevent their eventual crime without robbing the merely weird among us of their freedom to be weird?"

I think most kids and adults know the answer...stay the h$ll away from them.

The merely weird find other math and science nerds to hang with (;-D)...the true psychopaths are shunned by all but a few stupid saps (some of whom often end up as victims).

47 posted on 03/03/2012 9:42:25 AM PST by RoosterRedux (Newt: Drill Here, Drill Now, Pay Less. Barack Obama: Have Algae, Pay More, Be Weird.)
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To: RoosterRedux
History heps differentiate the merely weird from the schizopaths or psychopaths.

a history of violence, death threats is a red flag. The merely weird long haired kid who is oddly imaginative doesn't go around being violent or threatening others. Plus look at their origins. a criminal family versus an odd off beat family is a clue.

48 posted on 03/04/2012 5:56:22 AM PST by cajungirl
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