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Once Again I will Posit Adoption for Barack Obama.
Various | 3/1/2012 | DiogenesLamp

Posted on 03/01/2012 1:50:50 PM PST by DiogenesLamp

I just finished Watching Sheriff Arpaio's press conference. The Sheriff's posse has concluded that the document was created on a computer and is therefore a forgery.

I will once again point out that if Obama was adopted, he would get a replacement birth certificate that will be designed to look like an original 1961 birth certificate, but it will in fact have been created by the Department of Health in the State of Hawaii at the Direction of an Hawaiian State Judge.

"The Obama was Adopted" theory addresses the "forgery" issue head on, and precludes it from being a crime. In my opinion, this is the simplest explanation for the fact that Obama's document looks cobbled together, and that Hawaii is tacitly confirming it as legitimate.

I will further add, (for those who have not already been so informed) that *I* was adopted, and *I* have a birth certificate which was created six years after I was born, and is in fact a replacement birth certificate that lists my new last name, new parent's names, etc.

This theory ties up a lot of the loose ends neatly (not all of them) and it doesn't involve believing that the Hawaiian government is involved in a criminal "conspiracy." I urge people to consider this idea before jumping to the conclusion that everyone involved with producing this document has committed a criminal act.


TOPICS: Government; Politics; Society
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To: CalTexan

What about the Selective Service Card Forgery and fake SS numbers.


Felonius Obama...


51 posted on 03/01/2012 4:12:40 PM PST by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: cynwoody

It’s quite common for Permanent Resident Alien minors to be in the custody of a Social Service Agency in one state, while in the physical custody of a relative in another state.

Some people have invested too much time and money into false theories and won’t give it up. Or you can cling to the hope his BC is fake, his SSN is fake, his Selective Service is fake and everyone is in on it since the beginning.


52 posted on 03/01/2012 4:17:29 PM PST by SvenMagnussen (What would MacGyver do?)
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To: CodeToad
Well, if you did it once why are you doing it again, just to be annoying about it or are you just arrogant and think we must adopt your opinions and you will keep posting this until we do?

Because the possibility occurred to me that there are people who have not heard and considered it. If you have, then surely you have good reasons for thinking it is wrong?

I would start with those rather than just flaming about it.

53 posted on 03/01/2012 4:18:01 PM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: cynwoody
Of course, the question is, would it be obvious that Zero's BC is an amended BC?

I suspect it varies from state to state. Mine says nothing about being amended.

Here's a case where it was obvious even to a creature as fascistically stupid as a Floriduh civil servant:

http://73adoptee.blogspot.com/2008/10/adoptee-denied-drivers-license-in.html

If only people had shown such diligence regarding Barack, rather than just take Nancy Pelosi's word for something.

54 posted on 03/01/2012 4:24:27 PM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: kiltie65
There are so many options that one suspects all these options are just more attempts to muddy the waters...sigh. I thought Sheriff Joe’s announcements today about the paperwork of passengers on incoming international flights for most airlines being missing the pertinent first weeks of Aug l961 was another vote for Obummer being born in Mombasa.

I found that information interesting. I personally have little faith in the "Kenya theory" but if evidence comes out to support it I will re-evaluate it.

55 posted on 03/01/2012 4:27:18 PM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: DiogenesLamp

DL, I have always give serious consideration to this theory. For what it is worth, I think you are right. An adoption would most certainly cause changes to be made in Barry’s birth documents, changing them permanently until such a time as Barry decided to tell the state to revert the records to their original state, undoing the adoption. That would be part of the record as well, but could NOT erase the change in his citizenship status, particularly if he had gone to school as a foreign student!!!


56 posted on 03/01/2012 4:30:30 PM PST by Danae (Anailnathrach ortha bhais beatha do cheal deanaimha)
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To: little jeremiah
Did you read the “Auntie” thread in its entirety? That was where I got 100% that he is no blood relative of the purported parents. Or any parent of the purported parents.

Are you talking about that massively huge thread? I've read some of it, but I certainly have not read all of it. I've read Fred Nerk's stuff.

He comes up with some interesting stuff, but I think he reads too much into too little. Pictures are interesting, but resemblance is a funny thing, and no guarantee of a genetic relationship.

57 posted on 03/01/2012 4:31:35 PM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: SvenMagnussen

A Naturalized Citizen is NOT eligible for POTUS. Just ask Arnold Schwarzenegger.


58 posted on 03/01/2012 4:32:28 PM PST by Danae (Anailnathrach ortha bhais beatha do cheal deanaimha)
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To: DiogenesLamp

Why would his supposed mother Stanley Anne want her parents to adopt her son? Her first born? Funny that was the same year Frank Marshall Davis and his wife got a divorce and she left. That’s when he and Gramps began hanging out with ole Frank and became Barry’s mentor.


59 posted on 03/01/2012 4:33:16 PM PST by mojitojoe (SCOTUS.... think about that when you decide to sit home and pout because your candidate didn't win)
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To: DiogenesLamp

You really are out in left field with that crap you wrote. You know that, right?


60 posted on 03/01/2012 4:34:24 PM PST by mojitojoe (SCOTUS.... think about that when you decide to sit home and pout because your candidate didn't win)
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To: bluecat6
100% with you that something had to happen in 1971.

Grandparents would not take responsibility of a child without clear and clean guardianship and citizenship status.

But Hawaii has never released anything directly. Nada.

Most states won't. I have read through some of Hawaii's adoption law, and the privacy section is pretty huge, though again I argue, Eligibility for Presidency should TRUMP all privacy laws. Verifying constitutional requirements for office should not be thwarted by a state statute.

Prior to July 2009 they issued statements that allude to ‘our records indicate...’ but they would not directly say ‘Obama was born in Hawaii’.

That changed in July 2009 when the US House of Representatives declared Hawaii to be a son of Hawaii. This was the first ever government statement to that effect. Then, LATER THAT DAY, Hawaii indicated in a apparently unsolicited statement that Obama was born in Hawaii. Choreographed? Coincidence?

I don't know. Legal requirements can be pretty weird sometimes. I think you are suggesting that they complied with some legal Kabuki dance which enabled them to make such a claim. Could be. Again, Legal technicalities can be pretty weird.

The adoption process would be a legal meat grinder of actual documents.

Especially if it occurred TWICE, with an annulment or modification at the end!

But Hawaii seems to want to keep an arms length away from this.

Who would want their state's first President to be declared illegitimate?

61 posted on 03/01/2012 4:38:24 PM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: DiogenesLamp

There are many massively huge threads. I’ve been reading obsessively since summer 2008 on this.

The Auntie thread needs to be read in its entirety by anyone even slightly interested in Zero’s background. And the Auntie thread has nothing whatsoever to do with physical attributes. If you want the link I’ll post it. If you don’t want it, I assume you are wedded to your view; but in truth, you should read that thread. It’s not about “Hey, he looks like so and so”.


62 posted on 03/01/2012 4:39:46 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell)
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To: DiogenesLamp
That is actually an interesting theory.

But Obama's mom didn't seem like the sort of person who did things by the book. If Indonesia said her child had to be a Muslim and the son of a citizen, I really doubt she had him converted or adopted. She probably just told the authorities what she or Lolo thought they wanted to hear.

Likewise with turning her son over to her parents. There may or may not have been some kind of guardianship or power of attorney, but I doubt she'd let the grandparents legally adopt him. By all accounts she wasn't much for paperwork and formalities. If nothing was on paper, she could maintain that what happened was temporary and that she was still a good and responsible mother.

Also, if it was just about paperwork, I really doubt they would have wanted to bring Barack Sr. to Hawaii. They could have worked through a lawyer and just exchanged documents.

63 posted on 03/01/2012 4:40:59 PM PST by x
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To: DiogenesLamp; LucyT; Red Steel; onyx; TheOldLady; Las Vegas Ron; manc; Candor7; Brown Deer; ...

You came to FR in April, 2011. For nearly TWO years you have done ONE thing on FR and only one thing and that is try to defend Barry Soetoro and the issue of his birth certificate and other inconsistencies.

You post on NO other threads, NONE!!! The ONLY thing you do on FR is defend Barry Soetoro and your past posting history is proof of that.

Therefore you are a troll and it’s sad the mods haven’t noticed what is as obvious as the nose on their face.

Here is your first page of past posts from 4/2011. Each one up until today looks the same. All defending the Kenyan usurper.

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/by:diogeneslamp/index?more=75584307


64 posted on 03/01/2012 4:46:29 PM PST by mojitojoe (SCOTUS.... think about that when you decide to sit home and pout because your candidate didn't win)
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To: Candor7
Your argumants are specious.

No they aren't, and my spelling is better. :)

Have you not been reading as much as you have allegedly posted?

Oh, absolutely. Plenty of stuff. I don't recall seeing much writing from you.

Adoption is a red herring at this point. Why cling to it?

Who's clinging? I'm throwing it out there. That is the OPPOSITE of "clinging." :)

What is your point? It appears to be obfuscation of the real issue at hand: Forgery.

Not at all. I'm not claiming it isn't a forgery, i'm suggesting it is a LEGAL forgery.

Why do you cling so desperately to your own personal theory?

Again, who's clinging? Show me where it's wrong, and I'll say "Hmmm... that theory doesn't hold water." So you got something to show me or what?

The topic is and will now be forgery.Certainly you must have read Polarik’s opus and those who did subsequent forgery research whose names all are on posts in this thread.

Oh boy. Am I not writing clearly enough? I'm not disputing that it is fake, i'm just saying that it could be a LEGAL fake.

As I said, your motives appear to be very doubtful here.We can’t really let the Orly Taitz gang gain any traction eh?/S

Get past it.

And the REAL investigation is now underway, a probable cause finding has now launched a very comprehensive investigation into the forgery itself. Thats a very good thing.

And those many, many Freepers who have treated the issue as a forgery on the face of the documents at hand are now vindicated.They have helped tremendously to bring the matter forward to this point, in Arizona.

Okay, whatever. If you can't understand me, I don't see the point of trying to understand you.

65 posted on 03/01/2012 4:47:22 PM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: Candor7

You are a newbie TROLL who seeks only to further muddy the waters of the issue, rather than to clarify them.

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I just read his entire past posting history. 10000000% troll or Obot. For 2 years defending the O birth certificate. That’s all he does on FR. Who spends that much time on something they think is BS? NOBODY, unless it’s their job of they have an agenda.


66 posted on 03/01/2012 4:51:40 PM PST by mojitojoe (SCOTUS.... think about that when you decide to sit home and pout because your candidate didn't win)
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To: DiogenesLamp
The Sheriff's posse has concluded that the document was created on a computer and is therefore a forgery.

An adoption would help to makes sense of (most of) this mess of confusing facts.


How would an adoption make sense of the forgeries?
67 posted on 03/01/2012 4:57:52 PM PST by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Danae
DL, I have always give serious consideration to this theory. For what it is worth, I think you are right. An adoption would most certainly cause changes to be made in Barry’s birth documents, changing them permanently until such a time as Barry decided to tell the state to revert the records to their original state, undoing the adoption. That would be part of the record as well, but could NOT erase the change in his citizenship status, particularly if he had gone to school as a foreign student!!!

I have no qualms with that. I'm just suggesting the idea because it seems the simplest way to make sense of the situation based on what I know. Obamas staff placed that thing prominently on the White House website, and he did such a little dance I honestly think he believes that it's legit.

The fact that Hawaii is not disowning it implies that it has the approval of their Dept of Records, and therefore possesses some sort of legitimacy. Couple that with all the original dodging and weaving he did on the issue, (implying that everything wasn't kosher) and it leaves you with a plausible theory of some sort of legal manipulation to make the records say what he wanted them to say. Subsequent modification of Adoption, or an annulment thereof might explain what we are seeing.

Others have suggested the (multiple)Adoption theory to explain much of this, and it just makes sense to me.

Beyond that, I have to say I appreciate your allowing your own personal birth certificate to be used for the purpose of comparison and verification on this issue. I have thought about showing both of my birth certificates just to punctuate my point,(I did show bushpilot1 portions of both documents) but the idea of Obamatrons or Identity theft people chasing me for the rest of my life simply does not appeal to me. I for one, appreciate your sacrifice, and hope that it does not later cause you trouble.

68 posted on 03/01/2012 5:00:34 PM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: mojitojoe
Why would his supposed mother Stanley Anne want her parents to adopt her son? Her first born?

I would assume it was because he was "cramping her style." The boy obviously wasn't well liked in Indonesia, and I suspect he was a source of friction between her and her man. She would not be the first to let Grandmother take care of her children.

You can say otherwise, but you cannot deny she ABANDONED him for the rest of his minority.

Funny that was the same year Frank Marshall Davis and his wife got a divorce and she left.

I am comfortable with the theory that Frank Marshall Davis may well have been his father. I have presented my own evidence that this was likely the case. Do you remember it?

That’s when he and Gramps began hanging out with ole Frank and became Barry’s mentor.

No argument from me about this.

69 posted on 03/01/2012 5:05:17 PM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: mojitojoe
You really are out in left field with that crap you wrote. You know that, right?

How? It makes sense to me. If it doesn't make sense to you, then one or both of us isn't understanding something correctly.

I am not arguing that a Hawaii adoption makes Barack Legitimate. It doesn't. I am pointing out that we STILL haven't seen his original birth certificate, and so we cannot establish that he was born in Hawaii. (And therefore he hasn't proven his legitimacy.)

70 posted on 03/01/2012 5:08:46 PM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: DiogenesLamp

Why did you come to Free Republic and why is you one and only interest in the birth certificate? You are all over every singe thread and you even start them yourself. I think you are fishing. Does nothing else on FR interest you?


71 posted on 03/01/2012 5:12:14 PM PST by mojitojoe (SCOTUS.... think about that when you decide to sit home and pout because your candidate didn't win)
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To: little jeremiah
The Auntie thread needs to be read in its entirety by anyone even slightly interested in Zero’s background. And the Auntie thread has nothing whatsoever to do with physical attributes. If you want the link I’ll post it. If you don’t want it, I assume you are wedded to your view; but in truth, you should read that thread. It’s not about “Hey, he looks like so and so”.

Give me the link. Between arguing with Obots and other Obama legitimacy advocates, I will read through it. It sounds familiar though, and I may already have done so. Does it not contain all those pictures of his relatives in Africa, and Barack's other children from Ruth and such?

Most of the time I focus on researching stuff regarding the meaning of "natural born citizen" and such, but I can break away some time to look at this. It's not like the opposition ever puts up much of an argument. :)

72 posted on 03/01/2012 5:12:42 PM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: DiogenesLamp

So your saying yours is from HI???


73 posted on 03/01/2012 5:13:00 PM PST by tiger-one
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To: DiogenesLamp

Not at all. I’m not claiming it isn’t a forgery, i’m suggesting it is a LEGAL forgery.
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blah blah blah, it’s clear what you are doing here on FR. You have one goal here, and only one. Your past posting history speaks for itself.


74 posted on 03/01/2012 5:15:17 PM PST by mojitojoe (SCOTUS.... think about that when you decide to sit home and pout because your candidate didn't win)
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To: DiogenesLamp

That’s a rather arrogant view and well deserving of flaming.


75 posted on 03/01/2012 5:21:34 PM PST by CodeToad (NO TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION!!!)
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To: DiogenesLamp; mojitojoe
Troll, vetted and turned out. Photobucket
76 posted on 03/01/2012 5:23:07 PM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascist info..http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: mojitojoe

you coulda fooled me, I never saw it that way...not at all, can we have a vote on it?


77 posted on 03/01/2012 5:25:26 PM PST by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: DiogenesLamp

just wondering...IF your amended bc showed the name of a mother who wasn’t your mother, might you see a different outcome?
You are relating your personal experience to circumstances that may be nothing like your own.
There’s no way you can know when and by whom zero was adopted, if he was.


78 posted on 03/01/2012 5:31:02 PM PST by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: x
That is actually an interesting theory.

But Obama's mom didn't seem like the sort of person who did things by the book. If Indonesia said her child had to be a Muslim and the son of a citizen, I really doubt she had him converted or adopted. She probably just told the authorities what she or Lolo thought they wanted to hear.

Stanley Ann may not have had to DO anything. I have read quite a bit from others on this subject. It is my current understanding that Under 1960s Indonesian law, a child is AUTOMATICALLY adopted if he is under the age of five when his mother Marries an Indonesian citizen. (Here is the law in effect at that time.)

The only requirement is that the father must identify the child as his in front of a government official who comes to the house.

(1)A foreign child of less than 5 years age who is adopted by a citizen of the Republic of Indonesia acquires the citizenship of the Republic of Indonesia, if such an adoption is declared legal by the Pengadilan Negeri at the residence of the person adopting the child.

If this occurred (very likely) then Grandma Dunham may have been advised by her lawyer to use a subsequent adoption to straighten out the mess this might cause for him as an American Citizen.

Likewise with turning her son over to her parents. There may or may not have been some kind of guardianship or power of attorney, but I doubt she'd let the grandparents legally adopt him. By all accounts she wasn't much for paperwork and formalities. If nothing was on paper, she could maintain that what happened was temporary and that she was still a good and responsible mother.

From my perspective, Stanley was a outlier starting with her name. Everything she did was not typical by the standards of the day. (Studying Russian in 1960?) From my perspective (and the fact that she DID leave him with the Grandparents for the next 8 years) allowing them to do whatever they wanted was perfectly within her character. SHE may not have been much for paperwork, but Bank Vice President Madelyn Dunham lived by it. I have little doubt she sought legal advice for what to do.

Also, if it was just about paperwork, I really doubt they would have wanted to bring Barack Sr. to Hawaii. They could have worked through a lawyer and just exchanged documents.

I've seen that discussed. It has been suggested that the Original father can assert a position of better legal authority (in conjunction with the actual mother) to demand his rights to the child, and then subsequently sign them over to the Grandmother.

This is uncharted waters for most legal types I would assume. How often does an American Grandparent acquire guardianship of her American Grandchild which was adopted by a foreign national?

As for Poor, (financially weak) broken down, Drunk, Barack Obama Sr. getting to Hawaii, how and why would he do such a thing? He even mentions that he is there on "Family business" though I don't have that quote readily available.

Barack Sr. could not afford to fly to Hawaii in 1971, and he could barely walk. (Crippled from previous drunk driving accidents.) It makes sense that his financier for the trip (and the Hotel Room where he stayed) was Madelyn Dunham, Vice President of the Bank. If this is the case, then his presence must have been necessary for some reason, and I can only assume it was to sign legal documents and affirm before a Judge.

79 posted on 03/01/2012 5:34:57 PM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: DiogenesLamp; Fred Nerks; Brown Deer; Fantasywriter; Red Steel

There is no such thing as a legal forgery.

And the fact that you apparently aren’t aware that there are NUMEROUS massively long threads on FR researching Zero’s background nor have you read them, shows that my initial suspicious about you are factual.

And when I suggested reading the “Auntie” thread you weren’t interested in a link, and sneered about physical similarities, which are not the point of the thread in question.

The fact that you trot out this crap thread today shows you for what you are.


80 posted on 03/01/2012 5:35:18 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell)
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To: DiogenesLamp

Fred’s here watching you.

You are going to get yourself into an awful tangle assuming that your own circumstances/experience have anything to do with zero.


81 posted on 03/01/2012 5:36:40 PM PST by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: mojitojoe
You came to FR in April, 2011. For nearly TWO years you have done ONE thing on FR and only one thing and that is try to defend Barry Soetoro and the issue of his birth certificate and other inconsistencies.

Boy did YOU get that wrong! Virtually the only thing I talk about is how he is NOT LEGITIMATE. Rather than defending him, I am leading the pack which has been attacking him.

You have read other people's entire threads in the past. Read mine.

You post on NO other threads, NONE!!! The ONLY thing you do on FR is defend Barry Soetoro and your past posting history is proof of that.

I post mostly on the eligibility threads. That is what I find to be the most interesting topic. I do occasionally post on other threads, but the eligibility topic is what I want to thrash out.

Again, my position is that Barack Obama is NOT ELIGIBLE, and is NOT a legitimate President. (At least he hasn't proven so.)

Therefore you are a troll and it’s sad the mods haven’t noticed what is as obvious as the nose on their face.

Here is your first page of past posts from 4/2011. Each one up until today looks the same. All defending the Kenyan usurper.

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/by:diogeneslamp/index?more=75584307

You should read some of those posts. They say what I have always said. The States didn't verify his credentials, and they shouldn't have let him on the ballot.

I still say that.

82 posted on 03/01/2012 5:43:50 PM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: Fred Nerks

Vote away....still won’t mean you’re right. :) Hey, if you think DL is legit, that’s your choice. Have you read ALL past posts from day one? If not, please do so.


83 posted on 03/01/2012 5:45:46 PM PST by mojitojoe (SCOTUS.... think about that when you decide to sit home and pout because your candidate didn't win)
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To: mojitojoe

Oh, you must have been talking about him. (Candor7) I got confused because the message was addressed to me. :)


84 posted on 03/01/2012 5:45:46 PM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: little jeremiah

‘he’ talks about me without the courtesy of including my name ... so I can do the same. I doubt we are dealing with an obamabot, what we have here is someone who thinks they have it all worked out...and can’t take anything but their own theories into account.
It’s a pity...


85 posted on 03/01/2012 5:46:32 PM PST by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: DiogenesLamp

I don’t think the grandparents would have adopted Barry Soetoro, but instead they simply got legal guardianship. The divorce records still suggested that Lolo Soeotoro was still legally Barry’s father.


86 posted on 03/01/2012 5:46:36 PM PST by edge919
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To: mojitojoe

I did. And now you have to read #82. And I’m outa here.


87 posted on 03/01/2012 5:50:31 PM PST by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: DiogenesLamp
If Obama was adopted by Soetoro, he could petition the court to ‘correct’ his last name, reflecting whatever name he wants.

However, the legal parents (by birth or adoption) on a corrected/amended BC would still remain the same.

It is probable the grandparents became the official guardians of obama (as opposed to adoption). A legal formality rich with documentation, but the paperwork is out of our reach.

88 posted on 03/01/2012 5:50:57 PM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: DiogenesLamp

I will go back and read them again. I went back to the day you joined and read from there. I will admit I didn’t spend hours reading each post. I will read more when I have time and if I think I was wrong, I have no problem admitting I was wrong.


89 posted on 03/01/2012 5:51:03 PM PST by mojitojoe (SCOTUS.... think about that when you decide to sit home and pout because your candidate didn't win)
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To: Brown Deer
How would an adoption make sense of the forgeries?

Because it would explain them in light of the other facts we have seen.

Fact. It's fake.
Fact. When he first produced it, Obama trumpeted it about as though it were real.
Fact. Hawaii is more or less backing it.

What ties this all together? How can it be both FAKE and backed up by the state of Hawaii?

Because it was created by a court order and is therefore legal. If Obama was legally adopted by his Grandparents in 1971, then he could subsequently have that adoption annulled, and go back to his original name. This will, however, not result in the release of his ORIGINAL (sealed by adoption) birth certificate. It will, however, allow him to get a court order to the Department of Health in Hawaii for the creation of a replacement one.

Being a legal forgery fits all three facts. It's real and fake at the same time. The salient point is that it isn't the ORIGINAL document.

If that doesn't make sense, i'm not sure I can explain it better.

Besides that, Who else would have access to the bits and pieces of a real 1961 birth certificate to make it look realistic? DOH HAWAII!!

90 posted on 03/01/2012 5:52:34 PM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: DiogenesLamp

I take back the part about you not wanting a link to the Auntie thread.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2702976/posts

But if you have not immersed yourself in all the long useful threads on FR you are lacking a desire to learn the truth about Zero.


91 posted on 03/01/2012 5:52:50 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell)
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To: mojitojoe
Why did you come to Free Republic and why is you one and only interest in the birth certificate? You are all over every singe thread and you even start them yourself. I think you are fishing. Does nothing else on FR interest you?

I wish there was a better way to search the threads on Free Republic. I DO talk about other issues. I have had discussions with people about Abortion, (I am against it. I compare it to Nazi Genocide.) I have discussed economics, (the Gold Standard versus Fiat currency) I had a long exchange with a bunch of people about how much I was mad at Newt Gingrich for all the stupid things he's done in the past, (on the couch with Nancy Pelosi.) and I just recently discussed Charlie Chaplain.

It is just that I am so pissed off about the way some of my conservative "allies" have dismissed the birth certificate/Eligibility issue that I want to prove them wrong and shove it in their face. You simply cannot discuss this issue on Ace of Spades HQ because Ace and the gang cannot tolerate it.

That leaves Where? Where do you discuss this topic? I've thrashed it in the comments at "Hot Air", but that places sucks for posting. (can't post pictures.)

Other stuff does interest me, but nothing interests me more than a good fight with Obots on the issue of eligibility.

92 posted on 03/01/2012 6:00:37 PM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: Fred Nerks

You’re right.


93 posted on 03/01/2012 6:01:52 PM PST by mojitojoe (SCOTUS.... think about that when you decide to sit home and pout because your candidate didn't win)
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To: tiger-one
So your saying yours is from HI???

No it is not, but it is my belief that most states follow similar rules regarding adoption. I have read through much of Hawaii's adoption rules, and the section on Privacy is exceptionally large.

94 posted on 03/01/2012 6:03:22 PM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: mojitojoe
blah blah blah, it’s clear what you are doing here on FR. You have one goal here, and only one. Your past posting history speaks for itself.

Yes it does, and what it says is that I don't regard Barack Obama as having proven he is eligible to be President.

Do you think he is eligible?

95 posted on 03/01/2012 6:04:57 PM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: DiogenesLamp
Being a legal forgery fits all three facts.


96 posted on 03/01/2012 6:05:23 PM PST by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: CodeToad
That’s a rather arrogant view and well deserving of flaming.

Do your best. I am currently wearing my asbestos underwear. :)

97 posted on 03/01/2012 6:06:15 PM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: Candor7
Troll, vetted and turned out

Are you confessing or something? :)

98 posted on 03/01/2012 6:08:18 PM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: DiogenesLamp; Fred Nerks

Haste makes waste. I took some time, read more and will admit I jumped the gun. I saw several of your posts that seemed outlandish and looked like the typical concern troll, added that to the fact that you came to FR and immediately began to post on BC threads and nothing else, which MOST of the time, screams troll.

I will now say that I believe I was wrong. I won’t try to blame it on being tired, or anything else. Wrong is wrong and I believe I was and I admit it. I should have taken more time reading your past posts and not jumped on the band wagon with the others calling you out on this thread.

I just saw where you defended Bushpilot1 and that’s good enough for me.He should not have been zotted, he was set up by after-birthers and trolls. He was one of the good guys and he got zotted and the trolls are left standing. It sucks!

So, to set the record straight, I should have taken more time, ( I usually do) and I believe I was wrong and I apologize.


99 posted on 03/01/2012 6:10:31 PM PST by mojitojoe (SCOTUS.... think about that when you decide to sit home and pout because your candidate didn't win)
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To: DiogenesLamp

No, I don’t think he is eligible and I know he’s covering up things and lying. I came to FR in 2008 and have always believed he is lying about his BC and many other things.


100 posted on 03/01/2012 6:12:57 PM PST by mojitojoe (SCOTUS.... think about that when you decide to sit home and pout because your candidate didn't win)
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