Skip to comments.The Democrats are Desperate: Obama Calls Sandra Fluke, the 30-Year-Old Victim
Posted on 03/02/2012 1:20:32 PM PST by NYer
RUSH: "A Missouri House member frustrated with recent legislative debates over birth control and reproductive health is proposing to restrict vasectomies. Legislation sponsored by Democrat Stacey Newman would allow vasectomies only when necessary to protect a man from serious injury or death." You will not find the name "Rush Limbaugh" anywhere on this legislation. Nor do I know Ms. Newman. I'm not in cahoots with her. In the state of Missouri, a woman "frustrated with recent legislative debates over birth control and reproductive health" has proposed legislation that would deny men the right to have a vasectomy whenever and for whatever reason they wanted.
Men would have to get that approved. "Vasectomies would have to be performed in a hospital, ambulatory surgery center or health facility licensed by the state Department of Health and Senior Services." What, is this? Are there back-alley vasectomies going on that we don't know about? Have you heard this, Snerdley? Are there back-alley vasectomies taking place? "The Missouri House last week approved a resolution objecting to the federal health care law and a requirement that most employers or insurers cover contraceptives. Newman, who's from St. Louis County, says that such issues affect women the most." Really? Affect women the most?
"She says men also must make family planning decisions." So here you have it, folks. Now we're going to restrict vasectomies. A legislator, state representative in Missouri wants to regulate and restrict vasectomies. Can I do this? Do I have this power? I do not. And yet it is happening. Seriously, what is there about me to fear? (interruption) Oh, is that... Well, that's touching. Obama just called Sandra Fluke to make sure she was all right? Awwww. (kissing sound) That is so compassionate! What a great guy. The president called her to make sure she's okay. What is she 30 years old? Thirty years old, a student at Georgetown law who admits to having so much sex that she can't afford it anymore.
And thus, a new welfare entitlement must be created so that society will pay for it. You know, somebody asked me, "Why are you so insulting?" Me? Can anybody understand that a whole lot of us are insulted by this? Here we are, we're minding our business one day. We're bothering nobody. We can't anyway! We can't inspect your kids' lunch box. We can't raise your taxes. We can't send your kids off to war. We can't make you buy a certain kind of car. We can't do anything. And all of a sudden we're told that people who want to have sex without consequence, sex with no responsibility, and we have pay for it! We're told we have to pay for it -- and if we object, that somehow we're Neanderthal. Just out of nowhere this comes up.
Now, that, to me, is insulting.
It's no different than if somebody that I don't know knocked on my door and said, "You know what? I'm outta money. I can't afford birth control pills and I'm supposed to have sex with three guys tonight."
"Well, why are you coming to me?"
"Well, because you've got the money."
"Well, have you ever thought maybe you shouldn't? If you can't afford it, you can't do it."
Where is it written that all of a sudden, if you want something and don't have the money for it, somebody else has to pay for it. I think the whole notion of being insulted here is misplaced. There are a lot of us insulted by this whole idea that is growing throughout the Obama administration, that the people who make this country work are somehow not doing their fair share. Not paying their fair share. We've gotta be punished even more. And here's the latest example of it. So the President has called her and asked her if she's all right. She said she was, I hope. Do we know what she said? (interruption) Oh, she told that to Andrea Mitchell? You know, I offered to pay for aspirins. I thought I'd been quite compassionate here.
You know, also, one thing that's patently obvious, is that when the left wants to pretend they have no sense of humor, they are excellent at it. Yesterday in the riff about it, "Okay, okay, fine. If we're gonna pay for this, at least let us have something for it. How about some sex videos?" If anybody doesn't realize that we are illustrating absurdity here by being absurd and that that is the trademark of this program... But oh! No! "Oh, of everything else you've said, that's the lowest of the low. Demanding sex video? Who do you think you are?" Lighten up. I remember using that phrase all the way back in 1989: "Lighten up." They're also upset because I called Danica Patrick a "woman driver." (interruption)
Yeah, I know. Snerdley, I told you, "This is gonna be bigger than the phony soldiers," and he didn't think it was. I said, "Oh, it's gonna be ten times bigger. This is gonna be ten times bigger than the phony soldiers, ten times bigger than the Michael J. Fox thing, 'cause the Democrats are desperate." The Democrats are desperate, and I dont know why they want people... Well, I do know why they want people to fear me. This is all they've got, is to go out and try to discredit their critics, to impugn and discredit the people who disagree with them. Because there's no way, if we actually sat down and had a debate about this proposition, anybody on the left can win this. Not in a sane world where there is common sense.
Apparently Sandra Fluke told Obama something. When he asked her if she's okay, she said that Obama told her that she should tell her parents they should be proud. (pause) Okay, I'm button my lip on that one. The president tells Sandra Fluke (chuckling), 30-year-old Sandra Fluke, that her parents should be proud. Okay. Let me ask you a question. I might be surprised at the answer I would get to this question. Your daughter appears before a congressional committee and says she's having so much sex, she can't pay for it and wants a new welfare program to pay for it. Would you be proud? I don't know about you, but I'd be embarrassed. I'd disconnect the phone. I'd go into hiding and hope the media didn't find me. See, everybody forgets what starts this, or what started this whole thing. Or maybe they don't! Maybe that's normal behavior on the left now, for all I know.
But it's one thing for Obama to call and ask her if she's okay.
I'm waiting for Bill Clinton to call her.
RUSH: Have I denied Sandra Fluke her birth control pills?
"No, but you would."
No I wouldn't. I wouldn't deny her her birth control pills. That's not what this is about. This isn't about birth control pills, anyway, folks. This isn't about contraception anyway. This is about expanding the reach and power of government into your womb, if you're a woman. This is about the Democrat Party wanting more and more control over you. What was early feminism all about? Emancipation, individuality, freedom, liberation, all of these things. Now here comes Danica Patrick out and she says, "I'm perfectly comfortable letting the government make my health decisions for me." Well, folks, I'm gonna tell you: Right there, that's the death and the end of feminism.
When Danica Patrick can come out and say (paraphrased), "Oh, I'm perfectly fine with the government making these health care decisions for me," and that's feminism? I don't want to make these decisions! Nobody is denying Ms. Fluke her birth control pills. Ms. Fluke is approaching everybody and asking us to pay for them. I take it back. The president of Georgetown University whose name is John DeGioia (I've never heard it pronounced so I don't know how). Georgetown University president John DeGioia blasted my comments as "misogynistic" and "vitriolic." But who is it exactly that is denying Sandra Fluke her free birth control pills?
Isn't it this guy? Who's she upset at? Georgetown!
She went to Georgetown knowing that they didn't provide free contraception as part of their health plan, whatever it is. And this guy, the president of the university, is thus the man denying her her birth control pills -- and she's mad at me! This guy says I'm "misogynistic" and "vitriolic," and he's the guy that's denying Ms. Fluke her free birth control pills. Yet I, El Rushbo -- a harmless, lovable little fuzzball -- am the enemy here. The dirty little secret is nobody's denying Sandra Fluke her birth control pills, obviously. Isn't it obvious? As frequently as she has sex and to not be pregnant, she's obviously succeeding in contraception. So nobody's denying here contraception, and nobody wanted to. Certainly not I.
I don't care, except when I'm told that policy makes it that the rest of society must assume responsibility and cost for behavior that people want to engage in with no consequences and no responsibility themselves. That's insulting. Pure insulting. Now, the definition of a "misogynist" is a man who hates women almost as much as women hate women. That's what a misogynist is. Did you know that, Snerdley? A misogynist is a guy who hates women almost as much as women hate women, and I do not hate women. Why should gay people have to pay taxes to supply birth control for straight people, for the breeders? Why should they? Where's the social justice in that?
Open Line Friday. Let's move on. Scottsbluff, Nebraska. This is Tamara. Great to have you, and welcome to the program.
CALLER: Thank you, sir. Good afternoon. I will get right to the point. You know, over the last couple of days, listening to your show, never once was I offended or insulted by any statement you made. What insulted me and offended me -- and, quite frankly, made me furious -- was the comments made by the women of this whole proceeding: Those who were hosting it, the commentators that reacted to it. The entire time I listened to Sandra Fluke speak, all I could think of is, "You are setting every woman in this country back decades."
CALLER: "You make it sound like we are incompetent and ignorant and not capable of thinking of a way to take care of ourselves. You're smart enough to be accepted into Georgetown law, but you can't think of a way to pay for birth control?" Birth Control is as important as housing a roof over your head, clothes for your body, food for your mouth? You've got to be kidding.
RUSH: That's a good point. Where does it stop? Once contraceptives are paid for by everybody else, what about food next? And what about clothes, the Manolo Blahniks? What about that?
CALLER: That's my point. That was the first of it. When I was putting myself through college, I paid for every dime of it myself and there were months I was scared to death 'cause I didn't know how I was gonna make the money to pay for the next semester. But I did it, and I did it because I had a job. But never in my entire college career did I say, "Oh, golly, how am I gonna pay for my birth control this month?" It didn't cross my mind. It wasn't a need. It was my responsibility to take care of my education, my food and my body, and nobody else's. You want us to take care of our own bodies yet you're gonna make the argument that somebody else needs to pay for your child care --
RUSH: That's an excellent point.
CALLER: -- and your birth control?
RUSH: I tell you what. I would go further. Once this is permissible, once any citizen -- say "women," once a woman -- opens the door of the government providing contraception at no charge, the door is open. And with Obamacare in place, dictates on all aspects of our behavior can then take place.
CALLER: You have hit the nail on the head, and I can't believe there aren't more women from the left screaming at the top of their lungs, "Shut your mouth, please! You're killing us."
RUSH: Well, I say this really with the absence of all ego: What this is about now is getting me. What this is about is silencing me, removing my voice as a credible critic. This is not even about contraception or any of that anymore. Because you raise another good point. The assumption in this is that every woman in this country is angered by what I said. Every woman in this country.
CALLER: We're not!
RUSH: Of course not.
CALLER: We're angry about them, and you can button your lip all you want. I'll handle this one myself, because I can take care of myself. And every parent out there should be embarrassed if they had a daughter that stood up and said, "I'm sorry, I can't take care of this one. Will someone handle this for me?" I pray every morning and every night when I send my little girl out of my home when she turns 18 (or even sooner if she chooses), if she has a job and she can take care of herself, is that she goes through this world... And I have armed her with enough intelligence and self-worth and common sense that she can take care of herself and she doesn't have to rely on anybody else but herself.
CALLER: And then she can use the gifts God gave her to help anybody she chooses, in any way she wishes --
RUSH: Well, the gifts --
CALLER: -- if she can take care of herself.
RUSH: Well, "the gifts that God gave her" are the Democrat Party today. That's what you're supposed to think. It's what Sandra Fluke thinks and Danica Patrick thinks and what you're supposed to think. But the question in terms of feminism is: Whatever happened to "hands off our bodies"? So now we got a woman in Missouri upset over all this who now wants to restrict vasectomies. The door's open. That's what's insulting to me. And I'll tell you something else. In addition to being insulting, what's frightening is how few people apparently see this. Now, the media, they're just in lockstep. This is the template; this is the narrative. As I say, this is the third or fourth such attempt is this. And there will be more.
I appreciate your call, Tamara.
MO Rep. Stacey Newman Proposes Bill to Restrict Vasectomies, here you can compare your thought process to that of Rush. I think he makes a good point ... the dems realize the abortion issue is no longer effective so they have to switch to something else ... contraception ... to make the republican candidates look like fools.
This is going to be their big play throughout the campaign...Republicans hate women...that’s it, that’s their election plan.
George Stepawhatshisface at the ABC debate spent six minutes talking about contraception...Diane Sawyer followed with more of the same...the candidates and audience could not believe what they were hearing. Good Ol’ George, Clinton Butt-Boy...now Obama’s man set this up.
Three weeks later the war on the Catholic church started...and the msm was in full cry...”Republicans hate women”...this is just the start.
Im still waiting for Obama to call me and ask me I’m OK..Ive dealt with the left calling me a teabagger, a racist, an idiot, and other disgusting names for 3+ years..Hey Obama, if you want to call me, line is open, I’m all ears
I bet Billy boy called her too. On the one cell phone Hillary doesn’t know he has.
And then Bill Clinton called her to see if she’s available.
‘This is about expanding the reach and power of government into your womb, if you’re a woman. This is about the Democrat Party wanting more and more control over you. What was early feminism all about? Emancipation, individuality, freedom, liberation, all of these things. Now here comes Danica Patrick out and she says, “I’m perfectly comfortable letting the government make my health decisions for me.” Well, folks, I’m gonna tell you: Right there, that’s the death and the end of feminism.’
Excellent point except what Misses Fluke and Patrick want is not the death and end of feminism. The founder of late 20th century feminism, Betty Friedan, was a complete and total communist while Gloria Steinem is on record as saying capitalism and patriarchy need to be overthrown. Feminism and collectivism/statism/communism/socialism go completely together. The goal of having both mom and dad work is for the children to be raised by the state in government run day care. As National Review wrote way back when it was a good magazine, feminists have decided that women’s hearts no longer belong to daddy but to the state. The state is the replacement for women’s husbands in feminist theory.
That is the money quote. Repeat, preach it, and mock her. She is going to school at Georgetown, a very prestigious law school, and whores around so much that she can't afford her own contraception. So I have to pay for it by force of law. I have to pay for her desire to be a slut. So she is obviously not able to control her own impulses, and she wants to be lawyer? She can't keep her hormones under control, and wants to have any and all responsibility removed? She is 30 years old, and has the mentality of a spoiled child?
Stop being nice. The script is set, don't follow it. She has testified before Congress that she is such a slut, she can't afford a $9 a month birth control.
Play the Alinsky rules right back at them. Make a personal issue. Shame her, embarrass her, and her family. If that was my kid, I would be holding press conference, but not to say how proud I am.
It looks like the Left are circling the wagons around the contraception issue. They don’t tell you but contraception means for them, anything to terminate a life. This is just the Culture of Death which puts the relationship between a man and a woman on the level of mutual masterbation instead of the procreation of children in the bounds of marriage. There is the issue of freedom here. Got it folks?
probably the only good thing we can say about Obama is, he didn’t ask for her phone number. He doesn’t roll that way ;-)
At least he, of all the men who call Sandra, wasn’t interested in sex with her.
I’m glad to see a lot of women aren’t buying into this circus. $3000 for BC over 3 years?!! What the hell is she doing? Running around like a cat in heat? Every day? It makes not sense. But Rush is right, this a Leftist play for Obamacare and power and control.
The only way it will work is if enough clueless women believe it. Sadly, many are eating it up including some I know who should know better.
Can't post the following to the forum but it is quite revealing ...
Rush was right, and Republican candidates and leaders put on their idiot boots, and waded right into the trap. Republicans are going to have to learn how to define the subjects they debate. This nonsense is about two things. First it is about whether or not Congress has the right to dictate moral policy to churches and religious institutions. For years, the left has convoluted the so called, separation clause, into something unrecognizable from its original intent. It had nothing to do with limiting the influence of church or religion on government policy, but it did deny government the power to mandate a denomination of religion. The Founders were smart enough to understand that the offending party that needed to be limited was government, not religion. Liberals have turned it around ass backwards, saying government can dictate moral policy to religious institutions, but religious institutions can’t interfere with government by objecting to or resisting government mandates. This is a teaching opportunity for Republicans to demonstrate how the Constitution should be interpreted, and how it is capable of addressing a modern issue by applying the original principles of the Founders. Government is clearly overstepping its bounds.
The next issue is whether or not government has the right to tell taxpayers they must pay for the birth control of others, essentially subsidizing their sex. Government is taking powers not enumerated too far. As both a taxpayer and someone with a superior moral conscience compared to government, I don’t want to pay for birth control pills, morning after pills and abortions, so others can enjoy irresponsible sex, or even responsible sex. More than that, I don’t believe the government should have the right to force me to do so. Republican leaders should put take the debate where it belongs.
As you attend Georgetown law school....you have to pay for the $59k tuition, books and room/board. If you don’t like their on-campus apartments....figure around $8k a year to share a decent place in the DC area. Regular pocket money per year, for your Starbucks coffee, pizza, fancy clothing, and fun? Toss in another $9k. So you need $70k a year, and you whine about $200k a year for birth control? Just your pens and notebooks run $100 a year. Figure your Starbucks coffee runs around $1500 a year. Figure your virus software for the laptop at $50 a year. And figure all the pizza you eat for the year at $2000.
And they worry about $200 in birth control? Something doesn’t make sense here.
Note, I live in the Arlington area and come across an occasional Georgetown student. They all wear their university sweat-shirts ($60 each), and most look like they grew up in Boston, Philly or New York. I really can’t think of any reason why I’d ever call upon a Georgetown lawyer to get me out of trouble.
That "right" is so sacred that third parties have to be coerced by government to paying for it under penalty of law. It's so sacred that they'll throw free speech, freedom of religion, the right to assemble, ANYTHING over the side of the boat in order to preserve it. They'll justify the cold-blooded murder of innocent kids before, during, and after birth to preserve it.
They are truly despicable. It is the shame of this nation that the American people don't drive them from office with torches and pitchforks.
I wish Rush was reading this forum. You hit it out of the park by touching on the core of the problem here!
The Left has its secular religion. Its purpose is a derivative of the Founding Principle, "the pursuit of happiness," which is in their catechism, the pursuit of pleasure. Of course, that means sex as a recreational sport.
What this issue is really about is the institution of marriage. It is about the natural relationship between a man and a woman as defined by God and nature. This relationship has existed since man required an extended period for the protection and development of children. The third-century Roman jurist, Modestinus, captured the common understanding of marriage with the following definition: Marriage is the union of a man and a woman, a consortium for the whole of life involving the communication of divine and human rights. This union and these rights exist, not merely for their own sake, but also and especially for the sake of the inter-generational concerns of progeny and property; with a view, that is, to the conditions necessary for the founding and flourishing of the family. The rights involved are divine as well as human because marriage is generative, and hence pre- as well as pro-political; because what is founded through marriage is, in the twentieth-century language of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, the natural and fundamental group unit of society.
What the Left is doing through same sex marriage (and this contraception ruse) is to de-naturalize the family by rendering familial relationships as policy relationships, defined and imposed by the state. Human beings pursue relationships, not for their natural destany of parenthood, but to use each other as objects of masbatory pleasure. Contraception (the ending of life) is the means for that ends. In doing so, it effectively makes every citizen a ward of the state, by turning his or her most fundamental human connections into legal constructs at the states subjective whim.
Bingo. Presidential elections are always about the record of the incumbent. In order for Obama to get re-elected, his stenographers/videographers in the media have to pull out all the stops to deflect attention from the Kenyan Marxist's abysmal record in office.
The "War On Women's Health" is just the first act. Expect many, many more.
Will hard working gays have to pay for breeder contraception?
Why isn't her *boyfriend* paying for the contraceptive?
He's the one c**ing inside her, not me.
Oh, she's sleeping around? #OccupySandra
I bet Bill Clinton called her first.
If *he* calls her a Fluke, I call her a tool..and a slut and whore. #OccupySandra
Seems only fair.