Skip to comments.In a tough call, Newt Gingrich gets my vote
Posted on 03/03/2012 3:42:36 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
Lets be clear about this from the start: On Tuesday, Ill vote for Newt Gingrich to be the GOPs presidential nominee.
Now for the explanation.
In recent days, I mentally drafted one piece endorsing him, one backing Mitt Romney, and a third picking Rick Santorum. (Sorry, Ron Paul fans.) In other words, like millions of other Americans, Ive had a hard time reaching a decision.
Gingrich has a record of changing Washington. Completely? No. But then, completely changing Washington is a big job. And Gingrich led Congress to each success to which Santorum can also lay a claim: balanced budgets and welfare reform, to name two. Just as important, unlike Santorum, he was not there for the excesses of the GOP-run Congress during the 2000s.
Gingrich also matches Santorums ability to convey his beliefs conservative beliefs unapologetically. But his way is more happy warrior than disappointed dad. That matters.
Of the remaining candidates, he has the best tax plans and is the most specific about addressing runaway regulation and bureaucracy and developing our energy resources. Is $2.50-a-gallon gas realistic? Maybe not. But it is aspirational in a way that demonstrates his commitment to the issue. Again, that matters.
Is he flawed? Yes, as are his rivals. But the most flawed candidate is the one now taking the country in the wrong direction, Obama. And the candidate who is clearest and most effective at offering a different direction is Newt Gingrich. He gets my vote.
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I have been struggling with this myself....Newt or Rick? But am going with Newt. The deciding factor for me was what Rick said about Rush and the Fluke matter. He should have stood up for Rush.
Newt can sell conservatism, like he did in Georgia so many years ago.
“ATLANTA It wasn’t so long ago that the Republican Party in Georgia was just an afterthought, and Democrats were in firm control of all the levers of state government. Back then, Newt Gingrich and other die-hard GOP stalwarts ventured across the state with the far-fetched message that Republicans could reverse the tide.
Now with commanding majorities in the Statehouse and control of all statewide offices, Gingrich is hoping his vision for how the GOP could overcome decades of Democratic dominance in Georgia will pay dividends. He sorely needs a victory when his home state votes Tuesday, along with a big chunk of its 76 delegates, to prove his stumbling presidential bid has staying power.
Many Republican figures in Georgia still credit him with championing conservative policies, outlining a framework for what a GOP majority in the state could accomplish and broadcasting talking points to a generation of up-and-coming conservative leaders. He’s also applauded for lobbying conservative Democrats, like then-Rep. Nathan Deal, to switch parties.
“Everyone else was trying to lose as slowly as possible, and to die with dignity at the Alamo. He was talking confidently that the Republican majority in Georgia, in the South and nationally was right around the corner,” said Ralph Reed, a veteran Georgia GOP operative who founded the national Faith and Freedom Coalition. “On the one hand it was crazy, but on the other it was just the most exciting thing you’ve ever heard.”.....
Santorum is, at his core, just another Huckabee - a pro-life big govt liberal.
Newt’s da man if you are seeking Conservative change.
Have to agree on all points. Newt is less than perfect but Mittens just isn’t motivational in any way. Bottom line; I’ll be voting for the the candidate with the (R) beside their name in November. Unless Cain/Palin are running as Democrats.
There has been no question for me Newt is the only one. Romney is completely out of the question, and Santorum acts like he is running for the senate.
We're an instant gratification, TV/video, playstation, (overly) amused kind of people.
NO ONE ..... NO ONE .... gets us up out of our seats applauding like Newt can do and has done, and whether we like it or not, us old farts understand things we may not be able to put into words well and explain, but we know what WE want, and we WERE those Rockwell kids.
Mittens is the epitome of IMPERFECT for our country.
As you know... because I posted it to you first... this is the same conclusion that I have come to. Newt falls short on so many counts... but he is so far ahead of the other two that he is the obvious choice of the thinking voter.
I agree that Santorum is another Huckabee, but I don't think it's fair to call him a liberal - big government guy absolutely.
The only reason Santorum is getting traction is because thinking people discern that he is the only viable alternative to Romney. I used to admire Newt greatly. Unfortunately, the more one sees of him, the less there is to like. He is starting to come across as a smart untrustworthy weasel like Nixon. Yes, Nixon was somewhat conservative, but he also established federal affirmative action, the EPA, and wage and price controls. Newt seems like a similar opportunist - anything to stay in office.
Care to expand or are you just hear to throw stink bombs?
Gingrich also matches Santorums ability to convey his beliefs conservative beliefs unapologetically. But his way is more happy warrior than disappointed dad. That matters.Yes, I think it does matter. A lot.
And Santorums people seem to help him get into trouble that way, too. They just cant help themselves. Understandable, but possibly tragic, too.
Its understandable, because you just know that journalists go shopping for just the person to give them the sound bite they lust after, then they twist it out of context. It makes it impossible for the candidate to stay on message. Precisely according to the journalists plan . . .
And Newt is able to turn it right back on them. It's a skill-set we need going forward to win.
“I have been struggling with this myself....Newt or Rick?”
Same here. I’m voting Newt. His ability to destroy someone in a debate (with facts) is his strongest point. America needs a man that can be ‘cocky’ and not take any crap from libs/RINOS.
Rick comes off as just too nice and way too passive for the challenges we are now facing. America is at the crossroads between FReedom from or submission to Socialism.
It’s Newt all the way.
“Newt Gingrich gets my vote”
Right on ALL points!
Now there is trouble in Ohio with Santorum’s delegates.
......”Ohio has 16 congressional districts, or will for purposes of this election. (It now has 18 but will lose two at the end of 2012.) Romney, Gingrich and Ron Paul have slates of three delegates in each. But here is how Santorum’s slates shake out:
District 1: 3 delegates
District 2: 3 delegates
District 3: 2 delegates
District 4: 1 delegate
District 5: 3 delegates
District 6: 0 delegates
District 7: 3 delegates
District 8: 2 delegates
District 9: 0 delegates
District 10: 1 delegate
District 11: 3 delegates
District 12: 2 delegates
District 13: 0 delegates
District 14: 3 delegates
District 15: 3 delegates
District 16: 1 delegate
This could get interesting, and difficult, for Santorum because his failure includes districts where he might otherwise run well”......
More: “Santorum Could Be Ineligible For 18 Ohio District Delegates — Report”
Romney is a definite NO and in fact if he is the nomination I cannot see myself answering the "GOP Rally Cry." Not this time. And I have the oddest of places from which I historically draw that decision.
For a long time I was thinking Santorum. And if I look at my historical decision making regarding Romney, Santorum is also out.
So, that leaves Newt. I do believe Newt can lead, "We the People." But, can he with his troubled ethics past lead congress? And can we deliver for him a congress that can be lead?
This past week, another FReeper had me looking into a piece of history. A very dark piece of history written by a very dark individual. This piece of literature though highlighted something I had been wondering and missing for some time. What was life like...before WWII? What did the German people miss that caused them to be led so far astray? As I reread this "autobiography" ignoring the racism and the culture warfare...the complaint stood out. The halfhearted efforts of the politicians, theologians, and even the Church that were part of the causes for the ultimate collapse.
And I think this dark person did indeed understand very clearly how and what the difference was between the theorists and the agitators. He took the path of the agitators, but just as easily another path could have been chosen.
Like then the similarities to preWar Germany are astounding. While many here, myself included, have read and dissected "Atlas Shrugged," for the parallels...it is fiction. To combine what we have learned from the fiction that is Atlas Shrugged and the reading of Volume I of Mein Kampf we are at a critical crossroads.
We can choose the community agitator...again. Or we must choose a leader of full commitment to the ideals of a republican form of government. A leader of 'halfheartedness' will be the death of our way of life. It was the "halfheartedness" that made room for the community agitator that was Hitler. Currently our GOP leaders with their compromises and reaching across the aisle attitudes are risking our republic. They are contributing to the marxist way of doing things.
Hitler recognized what the elites were failing to do. His resolutions were wrong, but his observation of preWar Germany were enlightened. He concluded it was the rich Jew etc. to blame. He looked to 'blame' the collapse on someone or something. Failing to fully acknowledge that which he had so diligently observed as the halfhearted nature that had invaded their way of life.
The GOP-E are horribly wrong in their support of Romney. The endorsements for Santorum with his record of 'halfheartedness' is deadly. The election and nomination of either of these two candidates will lead to a result too horrific to consider. Their nomination and election, will lead to a community agitator in 2016 that none will be able to stand against.
And so with history as my guide, I will be voting for Newt on Tuesday.
the question for me comes down to... do I want another mealy mouthed soft spoken “compassionate” so called conservative leading the way, or do I want the orneryest, meanest SOB in the valley leading the way?... I want someone that will take the fight to the enemy (communists) and not give a damn what the msm says about him/her.... newt is the meanest, strongest one left.... now about sarah for vp... would be very interesting..
>> Nixon was somewhat conservative, but he also established federal affirmative action, the EPA, and wage and price controls. Newt seems like a similar opportunist
You did a good job of pointing out Nixon’s flaws, but Nixon isn’t running. In fact, Nixon isn’t even breathing.
You did no such thing with Gingrich. Just a despicable loose connection with Nixon, and a broad tarring with the same brush.
Exactly WHAT ACTIONS — in DETAIL — makes Gingrich like Nixon?
Put up or STFU.
Besides his skill with gotcha questions, here’s another thing...
A FReeper tagline...sorry, can’t recall the name...says Newt will “deconstruct” Obama in debate.
I think I understand that, and it’s CRITICAL to helping Americans decide.
Without getting too personal, first the nominee MUST make people see WHO Obama is and what his background, goals and actions have been toward America.
In order to accomplish that, Obama’s self created image and the media’s false image of Obama must be deconstructed...taken apart piece by piece until it collapses the rest of the way.
Only then will Americans fully comprehend what is at stake in this election.
Only then can they be sold the alternative to the REAL...not the fake...Obama.
In an account of one of Christ’s miracles, the bible says “the scales fell from his eyes, and he could see” in reference to a blind man’s sight being restored.
In the OT bible there are stories referencing false gods, idols, however you wish to characterize. In the story of Samson the strong man, his strength is used to collapse the temple of worship to a false god.
The prophet Elijah is used to miraculously demonstrate that the false god in that story is UTTERLY powerless.
Moses was used to call down plagues on Pharoah of Egypt in order to prove the true God is able and capable, not Egypt’s Pharoah, so that enslaved Israel could escape.
First the false has to be exposed by the truth, then the alternative...the solution...can be offered and accepted.
Newt can do this.
The others are pretenders.
Hitler’s only attempt at organizing anything was the abortive “Beer Hall Putsch’’ and that was a disaster. Hitler didn’t even create the Nazi Party, the Strasser brothers Gregor and Otto did with the help of Josef Goebells so I find these comparisons between pre-Nazi Germany and the current situation in America to be a stretch. The German people had no tradition of thinking for themselves or representative democracy and had for centuries submitted themselves to monarchs, princes and kaisers who spoke to them more or less as children. Hitler was a outsider with a talent for oratory who appealed to their basest instincts and was much like an older boy encouraging a younger one to take his fathers gun from the drawer and do something with it. I don’t like Rommney, he’s a RINO. I will be voting for Newt also.
>> do I want the orneryest, meanest SOB in the valley leading the way?
Yeah, that’s the idea!
... And not only is he mean and ornery, he has a brain and he knows how to use it.
By comparison, Romney is a panful of used motor oil, and Santorum is a sack of wet sawdust.
And that sentiment has been put out there by some who should be speaking up louder now for Newt.
Newt debates Barack! (pass it around)
Smart untrustworthy weasel? Like that’s a bad thing. Especially considering it’s a race of and for smart untrustworthy weasels. Like it or not, it is what it is. The best racehorse in the world wouldn’t make the field at Le Mans. You have to play the game you’re in. Nixon had his enemies list and if Newt has one I bet The One and everything he’s done is at the top of it. Conservatives are excited, Libs aren’t. Newt can excite a crowd even more and Mittens can’t. Wouldn’t you love to see Newt and The One face off in an open debate? I would.
Thanks for the heads up.
I have some difficulty to follow the intricate republican cuisine concerning delegates. Every time I have to get into it, gives me a headache :)
Lucky him ... he has choices. By May ... *snooze* ... Ron Paul, or Bill the Cat?
It is a puzzle. The rules for delegates at the convention are different state by state and vote round by vote round. I hope Newt is counting and planning.
...or climate change
Not tough for me
Texas can do this, too...meaning drill here, drill now, produce lots more of our own oil.
Which Newt will know how to use against Obama, along with the other arrows in his quiver...
Eagle Ford Shale production surpasses analysts’ forecasts [South Texas]
Calling all Georgia republicans. Lets put Newt over the 50% mark on Tues so he gets all 76 delegates. No other candiate has a plan to hit the ground running on day one to restore the constitutional republic.
Conservatives need to push hard on the energy issue. It is the BRIGHT LINE difference between the Right and the Left. Obama’s “green” socialist ideology bleeds into every aspect of our lives and our politics.
That would be sweet!
You must have left your brain on the shelf with your teeth!
Voted for taxpayer funding of the National Endowment for the Arts.
Voted against a 10% cut in the budget for National Endowment for the Arts.
Voted for a Schumer amendment to make the debts of pro-life demonstrators not dischargeable in bankruptcy.
Defense and Foreign Policy
Voted for the Chemical Weapons Convention (CWC).
Voted against requiring the President to certify that the CWC is effectively verifiable.
Voted against requiring the President to certify that that Iran, Iraq, Syria, Libya, North Korea, China, and all other countries determined to be state sponsors of terror have joined CWC prior to submitting the instrument of ratification.
Voted for the START II Treaty
Voted to allow the sale of supercomputers to China.
Voted to ban antipersonnel landmines
Voted against increasing defense spending offset by equivalent cuts in non-defense spending.
Voted to require that Federal bureaucrats get the same payraises as uniformed military.
Voted to allow food and medicine sales to state sponsors of terror and tyranical regimes such as Libya and Cuba.
Voted to limit the Presidents authority to impose sanctions on nations for reasons of national security unless the sanctions were approved by a multilateral regime.
Voted against requiring Congressional authorization for military action in Bosnia.
Voted to give $25 million in foreign aid to North Korea
Voted to weaken alien terrorist deportation provisions. If the Court determines that the evidence must be withheld for national security reasons, the Justice Department must still provide a summary of the evidence sufficient for the alien terrorist to mount a defense against deportation.
Voted against delaying the India Nuclear until the President certified that India had agreed to suspend military-to-military exchanges with Iran.
Voted against the Conventional Trident Missile Program
Voted for Richard Paez to the 9th Curcuit (cloture)
Voted for Sonia Sotomayor, Circuit Judge
Voted for Richard Holbrooke to be Ambassador to the UN
Voted for Margaret Morrow to be District Judge
Voted twice for Marsha Berzon to the 9thg Circuit
Voted for Mary McLaughlin to be District Judge
Voted for Tim Dyk to be District Judge
Voted for James Brady to be District Judge
Voted against National Right to Work Act
Voted against Real of Davis-Bacon Prevailing union wages
Voted for Alexis Herman to be Secretary of Labor
Voted for mandatory Federal child care funding
Voted for Trade Adjustment Assistance.
Voted for Job Corps funding
Voted twice in support of Fedex Unionization
Voted against allowing a waiver of Davis-Bacon in emergency situations.
Voted for minimum wage increases six times here here here here here and here
Voted to require a union representative on an IRS oversight board.
Voted to exempt IRS union representative from criminal ethics laws.
Voted against creating independent Board of Governors to investigate IRS abuses.
Voted to require pawn shops to do background checks on people who pawn a gun.
Voted twice to make it illegal to sell a gun without a secure storage or safety device
Voted for a Federal ban on possession of assault weapons by those under 18.
Voted for Federal funding for anti-gun education programs in schools.
Voted for anti-gun juvenile justice bill.
Voted for funding for the legal services corporation.
Voted twice for a Congressional payraise.
Voted to impose a uniform Federal mandate on states to force them to allow convicted rapits, arsonists, drug kingpins, and all other ex-convicts to vote in Federal elections.
Voted for the Specter backup plan to allow campaign finance reform to survive if portions of the bill were found unconstitutional.
Voted to mandate discounted broadcast times for politicians.
Voted for a McCain amendment to require State and local campaign committees to report all campaign contributions to the FEC and to require all campaign contributions to be reported to the FEC within 24 hours within 90 days of an election.
Voted against increasing the number of immigration investigators
Voted to allow illegal immigrants to receive the earned income credit before becoming citizens
Voted to give SSI benefits to legal aliens.
Voted to give welfare benefits to naturalized citizens without regard to to the earnings of their sponsors.
Voted against hiring an additional 1,000 border partrol agents, paid for by reductions in state grants.
Voted against a flat tax.
Voted to increase tobacco taxes to pay for Medicare prescription drugs
Voted to increase tobacco taxes to fund health insurance subsidies for small businesses.
Voted to increase tobacco taxes to pay for an $8 billion increase in child healh insurance.
Voted to increase tobacco taxes to pay for an increase in NIH funding.
Voted twice for internet taxes.
Voted to allow gas tax revenues to be used to subsidize Amtrak.
Voted to strike marriage penalty tax relief and instead provide fines on tobacco companies.
Voted against repealing the Clinton 4.3 cent gas tax increase.
Voted to increase taxes by $2.3 billion to pay for an Amtrak trust fund.
Voted to allow welfare to a minor who had a child out of wedlock and who resided with an adult who was on welfare within the previous two years.
Voted to increase taxes by $9.4 billion to pay for a $9.4 billion increase in student loans.
Voted to say that AMT patch is more important than capital gains and dividend relief.
Voted against food stamp reform
Voted against Medicaid reform
Voted against TANF reform
Voted to increase the Social Services Block Grant from $1 billion to $2 billion
Voted to increase the FHA loan from $170,000 to $197,000. Also opposed increasing GNMA guaranty from 6 basis points to 12.
Voted for $2 billion for low income heating assistance.
Sponsored An amendment to increase Amtrak funds by $550 million
Voted to use HUD funds for the Joslyn Art Museum (NE), the Stand Up for Animals project (RI) and the Seattle Art Museums Olympic Sculpture Project (WA)
Voted to increase spending on social programs by $7 billion
Voted to increase NIH funding by $1.6 billion.
Voted to increase NIHnding by $700 million
Voted to for a $2 million earmark to renovate the Vulcan Monument (AL)
Voted for a $1 billion bailout for the steel industry
Voted against requiring that highway earmarks would come out of a states highway allocation
Voted to allow Market Access Program funds to go to foreign companies.
Voted to allow OPIC to increase its administrative costs by 50%
Voted against transferring $20 million from Americorps to veterans.
Voted for the $140 billion asbestos compensation bill.
Voted against requiring a uniform medical criteria to ensure asbestos claims were legitimate.
Voted to increase community development programs by $2 billion.
Spending and Entitlements
Voted to make Medicare part B premium subsidies an new entitlement.
Voted against paying off the debt ($5.6 trillion at the time) within 30 years.
Voted to give $18 billion to the IMF.
Voted to raid Social Security instead of using surpluses to pay down the debt.
Voted to allow states to impose health care mandates that are stricter than proposed new Federal mandates, but not weaker.
Voted twice for Federal mental health parity mandates in health insurance.
Voted against a allow consumers the option to purchase a plan outside the parity mandate.
Voted to increase Federal funding for teacher testing
Voted to increase spending for the Department of Education by $3.1 billion.
Voted against requiring courts to consider the impact of IDEA awards on a local school district.
Voted to allow the President to designate certain sites as interim nuclear waste storage sites in the event that he determines that Yucca Mountain is not a suitable site for a permanent waste repository. Those sites are as follows: the nuclear waste site in Hanford, Washington; the Savannah River Site in South Carolina; Barnwell County, South Carolina; and the Oak Ridge Reservation in Tennessee.
Voted to make fuel price gouging a Federal crime.
“Newt can sell conservatism “
I agree. I was a Rick Perry fan cause he was a bulldog type.
that’s what i love about Newt...he doesn’t whine and he will take it to the GOP...no matter what he doesn’t accomplish, what he WILL get done is sell conservatism.
No other candidate has done this yet, even the oh-so polished Romney with his years of campaigning. If you can’t defend your success personally, why would anyone want capitalism??
We need that overall plan for the economy, energy and foreign affairs...and Newt has the ideas of that over arching view..kinda like Reagen, though styles are different.
DITTO on voting for Newt.
Please get a dictionary and look up the word “opinion”. I provided my opinion and you responded with a bunch of links to a politician’s speeches.
I don’t need to defend the established facts that led me to an opinion. If you have a different opinion, then state it. If you can contradict my facts, then attempt to do so. Otherwise, you are as much hot air as Newt.
Rick should do for Newt that Newt did for him in the last three states, bow out of Georgia let Newt win BIG, not give Romney any delegates in Georgia.
Rick having his problems in Georgia should help make that decision easy.
So you haven't seen him refereed to as "Santuckabee" here yet I take it :-)...
He is a spoiler just like the Huckster, who IMHO FUBAR'd the process enough to give us McCain and taking Conservative votes away from Thompson even though he was motivation-ally challenged, he just didn't have the umph for it.
Got into a lot of arguments about Huckabee in 08' and he turned out to be our Jimma Carter right on schedule. The Huckster was a disaster for our party, and those that threw millions at him (including some of the relatives via marriage..) will never admit to their mistake...
Like you, Im absolutely convinced that Newt Gingrich is the junkyard dog we need to rip Obama a new one and send him running back to his Chicago slime pit with his tail between his legs. Newt has plenty of DC experience as Speaker, executive ability from his many enterprises, and a silver tongue thats razor sharp! Hes fast on his feet, delivers it straight up with no hemming and hawing, and is often witty. His work with American Solutions was very impressive and as weve seen recently, Newt is able to put into words what the vast majority of Americans really believe. His fevered brain also has plenty of ideas for making government work better for taxpayers. Is Newt pure as new driven snow? No - none of the presidential candidates are in line for sainthood. Whatever Newts baggage, it pales next to Obamas habitual lying and outright corruption - and unlike Obama, Newt is 100% American! Newt is like Larry the Cable Guy: send him to DC and hell Get er done for all of us. Newt has “Been there, done that! Junkyard dogs are not show dogs, but theyll save your bacon!
I am damn mad at what Obama and his bootlickers have stolen from us - you should be too - and I want someone to represent me! Newt Gingrich is that man! Sic im, Newt!
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