Posted on 03/03/2012 7:02:42 AM PST by Erik Latranyi
Just a day after Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Apaio presented proof the birth certificate presented by Barack Obama as proof he meets Constitutional eligibility to be president is a fraud, we have a story coming out of Hawaii that may provide problems for Obama.
Jerome Corsi writes:
Former Hawaii elections clerk Tim Adams has now signed an affidavit swearing he was told by his supervisors in Hawaii that no long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate existed for Barack Obama Jr. in Hawaii and that neither Queens Medical Center nor Kapi’olani Medical Center in Honolulu had any record of Obama having been born in their medical facilities.
“During the course of my employment,” Adams swears in the affidavit (viewable in full as part 1 and part 2), “I became aware that many requests were being made to the City and County of Honolulu Elections Division, the Hawaii Office of Elections, and the Hawaii Department of Health from around the country to obtain a copy of then-Senator Barack Obama’s long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate.”
As he inquired about the birth certificate, he says, his supervisors told him that the records were not on file at the Hawaii Department of Health.
“Senior officers in the City and County of Honolulu Elections Division told me on multiple occasions that no Hawaii long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate existed for Senator Obama in the Hawaii Department of Health,” Adams’ affidavit reads, “and there was no record that any such document had ever been on file in the Hawaii Department of Health or any other branch or department of the Hawaii government.”
Arizona will have no problem putting Soebarkah on the ballot after a county sheriff and numerous law enforcement official with dozens of years of experience have certified that his qualifying documents are forgeries.
This is all going nowhere and Michelle Obama looks sexy in a bikini. Gotcha. ;-)
Good to see that you’ve finally come around.
Now you won’t be surprised when BHO remains on the Arizona ballot.
If you don't stop that, I'm going to post a picture of Helen Thomas. You've been warned. ;-)
Except they were not “qualifying documents” in the sense that no candidate had to submit a BC to get on the ballot.
If push come to shove, the Arizona SoS will request a BC from the Hawaii SoS. Hawaii will send a certified copy of the COLB and that will be that.
Arizona is not going to accuse Hawaii of forging Obama’s BC.
I hate to agree with you, but I think you are right about this. :)
This affidavit is of very little use as proof of anything.
I recall reading of incidents where Obama himself seems to have forgotten his own birthday.
ABC news implies it's a "Senior Moment" but I recall reading he's forgotten his own birthday more than once. Same thing with how he Celebrates it.
Don't obfuscate. He said an actual "record" was there. That something was "actually written down", or some such. This is not at all the same thing as saying a normal and ordinary birth certificate is there, and is in fact peculiar language to describe "it".
Beyond that, with Hawaii's (weird) law allowing birth certificates to be given to children not actually born there, it wouldn't be positive PROOF that he was actually born in Hawaii even if there WAS an ordinary birth certificate in the records.
He is however prevented by state law from disclosing it or information in it.
And this is a point I have objected to from day one. It is unreasonable to allow a State Law to block verification of a Federal and Constitutional requirement.
He apparently shot his mouth off prior to understanding this limitation of the governor's office.
Now I agree with this.
They don't need to. If they are smart, they should accuse Hawaii of sending them a copy of the record for a replacement birth certificate which was legally issued to an adopted child.
It isn't a "forgery", (Legally created replacement birth certificates are not "forgeries.") but it isn't an original record either. (Though it is designed to resemble one.)
There is a reason Hawaii didn't certify it as a "True and Correct copy of the original record..." The way they used to certify birth certificates.
I will be surprised if he gets kicked off the ballot. I have yet to see anyone who would refuse to accept the very superficial evidence which has so far been presented. 50 states put him on the ballot with NO EVIDENCE so I won't be surprised if it happens again.
People are simply too afraid of being made fun of by the National Media to actually require any proof from this guy. Look at Georgia. Zero actual proof, decision in his favor anyways.
They won’t because there is no credible evidence that it is true.
The COLB will say he is born in Hawaii. Hawaii’s SoS will once again say that Obama was born in Hawaii. And the Arizona SoS will accept it because he has no reason not to.
And Hawaiian law is pretty clear on BC’s for children not born there. They will get the new COLB and it will list the actual place of birth.
I hate to see people being sold vague hopes as solid information that will take down 0bama. It is destructive, a distraction, and makes Conservatives look like the tin foil hat brigade. We agree on this one, maybe that will induce you to consider some other theories and whether they also do harm.
I could not get a drivers license without a legitimate BC. We now have county Law enforcement officials telling the SOS that there is no BC for Soebarkah.
If the SOS should hold a press conference and explains why they need cooperation from the whitehouse, and put the screws to Obama.
Play good cop to Arpaio bad cop, "I need to prove Arpiao wrong, allow us to go to Hawaii and inspect the Microfilm and original document to end this. Without seeing the original and the microfilm, we must rely on our Sheriffs evidence and numerous sworn depositions that your BC is a forgery and keep you off the Ballot. Please, either cooperate and help us get you on the ballot or remove your name from the Arizona ballot. You choose."
Why not simply ask Hawaii for a certified paper copy of the BC for the SoS and Sheriff Joe to examine? Why mess around with digital copies with questionable chains of custody?
Registered mail straight from Hawaii to Arizona with the WH out of the loop.
For some reason Brian Schatz was not satisfied with what he saw:"Senior officers in the City and County of Honolulu Elections Division told me on multiple occasions that no Hawaii long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate existed for Senator Obama in the Hawaii Department of Health," Adams' affidavit reads, "and there was no record that any such document had ever been on file in the Hawaii Department of Health or any other branch or department of the Hawaii government."
"Senior officers in the City and County of Honolulu Elections Division further told me on multiple occasions that Hawaii State government officials had made inquires about Sen. Obama's birth records to officials at Queens Medical Center and Kapi'olani Medical Center in Honolulu and that neither hospital had any record of Senator Obama having been born there, even though Governor Abercrombie is now asserting and various Hawaii government officials continue to assert Barack Obama Jr. was born at Kapi'olani Medical Center on Aug. 4, 1961."
"We called the two hospitals in Honolulu: Queens and Kapi'olani," Adams stressed. "Neither of them have any records that Barack Obama was born there."
Abercrombie's conclusions of his exhaustive quest for Obama's Birth Certificate:"Hawaii Revised Statute 11-113(c)(1)(B) specifically requires that this sworn application from each state party authority contains explicit language stating that all candidates are legally qualified to serve under the provisions of the United States Constitution in order for the Chief Elections Officer to approve the candidate for placement on the state’s presidential ballot." "
The DPH, chaired by Brian Schatz, refused to include legally required language, per HRS 11-113(c)(1)(B), within the state party’s Official Certification of Nomination stating that Obama was Constitutionally eligible to serve as President.
" The Democrat Party of Hawaii refused to acknowledge that Barack Obama was legally qualified to serve as president under the provisions of U.S. Constitution and, therefore, the DPH refused to provide legal certification allowing the Hawaiian Chief Elections Officer to approve the placement of Barack Obama on the Hawaiian presidential ballot."
Abercrombie did not report to the newspaper that he or the Hawaii Department of Health had found Obama's long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate. The governor only suggested his investigations to date had identified an unspecified listing or notation of Obama's birth that someone had made in the state archives.
"It was actually written, I am told, this is what our investigation is showing, it actually exists in the archives, written down," Abercrombie said.
Okay...
Well, have fun with that.
The Sheriff's posse says otherwise. I happen to believe them.
The COLB will say he is born in Hawaii. Hawaii’s SoS will once again say that Obama was born in Hawaii. And the Arizona SoS will accept it because he has no reason not to.
No. You have to get the first thing you said correct before the second thing you said applies.
There *IS* credible evidence that something is funny about his documentation.
So then wonderboy...
What do you think AFAIK is shorthand for?
The SoS will not touch the “evidence” from the sheriff’s posse with a 10 foot pole.
When two investigators are selling a book on the investigation, one investigator is a prominent birther who has written a birther book in the past, and the editor of a prominent birther website is using the posse for fund raising, only a fool would believe that the posse was fair and impartial.
The SoS will not risk professional embarrassment by associating with the birther movement.
If you are going after the president on the United States, you need at a minimum an official criminal investigation conducted by sworn Arizona peace officers. Sheriff Joe needs to step up and conduct an official investigation.
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