Free Republic
Browse · Search
Bloggers & Personal
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Catholic Church: We need comprehensive immigration reform, not 'Secure Communities' program
Baltimore Sun ^ | March 5, 2012 | Mitchell T. Rozanski, bishop of the Archdiocese of Baltimore

Posted on 03/05/2012 11:12:02 AM PST by moonshinner_09

The recent article about the expansion into Baltimore of the Department of Homeland Security's program to crackdown on illegal immigrants ("Immigrants, city fear divide over status checks," Feb. 26) makes clear the need for real immigration reform. Programs such as Secure Communities, regardless of aim, are succeeding in spreading fear and division and in threatening the stability of the family. Moreover, the program is altering the relationship between federal immigration enforcement and local law enforcement.

The Catholic Church's concern for the welfare of migrants stems from its belief that immigration is ultimately a humanitarian issue because it impacts the basic human rights and dignity of the human person. The Church believes this dignity is undermined by this program's alleged channeling of immigrants into the criminal justice system through racial profiling and pre-textual arrests for the purpose of vetting them for their immigration status. Because Secure Communities is operated at the point of arrest, rather than post-conviction, it casts a wide net over virtually any immigrant who has come into contact with the criminal justice system.

In other parts of the country where Secure Communities is being operated, some law enforcement officers have denounced the program because it creates a lack of trust between immigrant communities and local police, affecting their ability to investigate crime, assist crime victims and ensure the safety of those communities

(Excerpt) Read more at baltimoresun.com ...


TOPICS: Politics; Religion
KEYWORDS: aliens; catholic; immigration; immigrationiam; religion
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-6061-68 next last
I am sorry and do not mean to offend anyone who is Catholic. However reading the Bishops also urge that an individual not be detained until he/she has been convicted of a crime that poses a threat to public safety of immigrant communities and families, rather than at the time of arrest. How about the Catholic Church agree to accept full responsibility for illegals who are arrested and released on bail, allow the Catholic Church to be 100% responsible for keeping them out of trouble and ensure they show up for all court dates or face sanctions for failing to fulfill their obligations.The Catholic Church at times just seems very backwards
1 posted on 03/05/2012 11:12:08 AM PST by moonshinner_09
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: moonshinner_09

As a practicing, believing Catholic, I truly wish The Church would shut up about our domestic political policies.


2 posted on 03/05/2012 11:19:44 AM PST by South Hawthorne (In Memory of my dear Friend Henry Lee II)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: moonshinner_09; All

Isn’t it ironic that the Catholic Church is in a tizzy about being forced to do something by the government while they’re simultaneously telling the government what to do about illegal immigration.


3 posted on 03/05/2012 11:30:58 AM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: moonshinner_09

I am sorry too and I am Catholic, but I can not make myself line up with such radical charity and radical kindness that continually points its finger at only the United States, holding only the US responsible for the deliverance of human dignity to illelgals, law breakers and border crossers, but NEVER Mexico, and certainly never the illegal.

The good Bishops who always get the press always fault the US and totally IGNORE every jot and tittle of the clear catachesis of the Catholic Church that just as clearly instructs respect for the law of nations, as well as human dignity.

The narrowness of these Bishops is more akin to Marxism than disguised as charity and kindness. There is just no dialogue with these bishops, it’s like you hit a wall.

The Church is rightfully fighting the intrusion into Church doctrine by the government, but the equally illegal intrusion of illegals onto our soil and the burdens they place on the backs of Americans, in regard to taxes and provisions, is staggering.

I love the Church. I do not love the socialist/Marxist leaning element romping unchecked within the Church. Catholics know exactly who they are too, and will fight their advances.

Pelosi is a measuring stick. If she is FOR it, you know you’re in the evil camp, and up to no good.


4 posted on 03/05/2012 11:39:19 AM PST by RitaOK (LET 'ER RIP, NEWT. Newt knows where all the bodies are buried, because he buried them.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: philman_36

Great minds think alike? I said the same thing! Next post!
LOL!


5 posted on 03/05/2012 11:41:49 AM PST by RitaOK (LET 'ER RIP, NEWT. Newt knows where all the bodies are buried, because he buried them.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: South Hawthorne

I am Catholic and I don’t believe the Church should be worrying about this when they have a bigger worry ontheir hands with Obamacare.

The Bishops helped Obama shove this Obamacare mess down our throats and now they have been bitten by it. Perhaps they should spend a bit more time thinking about consequences before shoving ILLEGAL immigrants down our throats.


6 posted on 03/05/2012 11:42:46 AM PST by Venturer
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Venturer
The Bishops helped Obama shove this Obamacare mess down our throats and now they have been bitten by it. Perhaps they should spend a bit more time thinking about consequences before shoving ILLEGAL immigrants down our throats.

Apparently they haven't considered the consequences of illegal immigration on healthcare costs, either. Where do they think the money will come from? I think some of them may be marxists at heart, but most of them are probably well-meaning, though naive.

Pope Benedict XVI: “At the same time, states have the right to regulate migration flows and to defend their own frontiers, always guaranteeing the respect due to the dignity of each and every human person...”

7 posted on 03/05/2012 11:59:08 AM PST by BlatherNaut
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: moonshinner_09
Bishop Rozanski exceeds his authority in stating specific policy preferences; the bishops' role is to declare the principles that bear on the issue, then let the laity exercise their prudential judgment to form policy. If Bishop Rozanski wants to be a policy maker, he should tender his resignation and run for office.
8 posted on 03/05/2012 12:01:19 PM PST by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: moonshinner_09
I don't want to offend any Catholic Freepers either, but this was just striking stupidity coming from a senior churchman.

At the same time that Catholics are benefiting from support of non-catholics over mandated insurance requirements (right to life), this activist dolt publishes a pro-illegal alien screed guaranteed to p#ss off about half the people who were otherwise in their corner. Well, at least it ticked me off - just like the L.A. diocese housing illegals did.

Hint to Mr. Rozanski; opposition to contraception is a fundamental element of Catholic theology but sponsoring the invasion of a neighbor is NOT...unless the Pope calls for another crusade.

9 posted on 03/05/2012 12:05:40 PM PST by norton
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: moonshinner_09

I am not a Catholic, but taking everything into consideration, the catholic church’s stance on no birth control is is scriptural. God did say, to go forth and multiply. He had good reason, as we are finding out, for Christians and other r non-Islasmists are being outnumbered becuase the Mormons and Islamists even have (had) multiple wives so they can sire more children, while abortion, and contraception takes millions of non- Islamists every year! I shudder to think of how our grandchildren and their children will be iduced to live non-Chrstian lives. under sharia Law. Without the living God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, there can be no America for our descendants. How can we allow this to happen?


10 posted on 03/05/2012 12:10:33 PM PST by Paperdoll (On the cutting edge)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: BlatherNaut

I have no doubt they are well meaning.
I am well meaning too,BUT,there must be limits.

Legal immigration establish’s these limits.
Illegal immigration ignores these limits and is the cause of great problems.

Hispanic gangs in cities, drunken uninsured drivers on our highways, anchor babies, costs to hospitals for uninsured.Illegals used as Mules to bring in drugs.
Just a few of those problems.

I wish everyone could live the good life, but destroying the economics of a country will lead to us all living like a third world country, and sooner or later those who work decide that if others can get away with not working they might as well go on the dole too.Especially those who are working for low wages.


11 posted on 03/05/2012 12:18:26 PM PST by Venturer
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: moonshinner_09

If the Establishment is working to import Democrat voters, they may be working at cross purposes, for most Latinos are people of faith. Of course the Muslim element, the enemy of our way of life in mind are invading us as well! What a dilemma!


12 posted on 03/05/2012 12:21:49 PM PST by Paperdoll (On the cutting edge)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Venturer

Well said.


13 posted on 03/05/2012 12:22:59 PM PST by BlatherNaut
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: norton

You’re not alone. I’m not Catholic but have been defending them over the contraception dust-up. I even started an account at The Chicago Tribune to get into a virtual brawl over it.

This really chaps my hide.

Just a little blurb about the brawl at the Tribune....there are an awful lot of liberals subscribed to that paper that don’t give two hoots about Constitutional rights. They only care about the rights that they perceive to exist. But then, we all knew that. It surely was on parade a couple of days ago.


14 posted on 03/05/2012 12:26:50 PM PST by abigailsmybaby ("To understan' the livin', you got ta commune wit' da dead." Minerva)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: South Hawthorne
As a practicing, believing Catholic, I truly wish The Church would shut up about our domestic political policies.

Right ...

Absolutely.

Those miserable, worthless papists should just STFU about womens' choice, and reproductive rights, and gays' civil right to marry ...

Keep their dirty litle fingers out of our SACRED American domestic political policies.

15 posted on 03/05/2012 12:28:03 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: philman_36
Yes, indeed ... there's a real irony in American citizens objecting to the US Government violating their constitutional right to religious liberty, while at the same time exercising their constitutional right to free speech.

Oh ...

Wait ...

Doesn't sound so ironic after all, now does it?

16 posted on 03/05/2012 12:34:58 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: RitaOK
It's hard to ignore the obvious isn't it.
And yet some people simply can't see the obvious.
17 posted on 03/05/2012 12:37:32 PM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: ArrogantBustard
Doesn't sound so ironic after all, now does it?

It isn't a free speech issue when you wish to impose your desires and beliefs upon others.
The desire is to implement "social justice" on others through the heavy hand of government and that is neither right nor proper.

18 posted on 03/05/2012 12:42:39 PM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: abigailsmybaby; norton

Please, don’t judge the Church by its infiltrators. There are those of us who know who these people are and are fighting it.

Check out upthread, if you will. #8 is correct.

I remind us all that many will fall, and keep falling, until there is none left, but the “remnant”.


19 posted on 03/05/2012 12:58:46 PM PST by RitaOK (LET 'ER RIP, NEWT. Newt knows where all the bodies are buried, because he buried them.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: philman_36

All legislation is imopsing one set of desires and beliefs on others.


20 posted on 03/05/2012 2:07:53 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-6061-68 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
Bloggers & Personal
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson