Does Utilitarianism lead into Fabian Socialism?

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[Ohioan]

Try talking to any Obama supporter about Natural Law!

But, yes, modern Britain is a disaster. But our present immigration policy--since 1965--coupled with various pieces of Legislation, already in place; puts us pretty clearly on the same path.

No one benefits from adopting the fantasies that drive Leftist thinking in America; that is, no one but demagogues & scoundrels. We have been allowing them to systematically deconstruct the social fabric; and we are getting near a loss of the critical cohesion necessary to prevent absolute chaos. The future--unless more of us wake up--will be incredibly ugly. (See Collectivist/Egalitarianism Sabotages Human Potential.)

William Flax

[Ohioan]

Of course the sacrifice of the individual is inherent in the concept of the "greatest good," etc.. It is also the key to the inevitable failure of utilitarian societies. Why? Because in all areas of social interaction--not just the free market--the more individual responsibility involved, the better the outcome. It is virtually a mathematically demonstrable aspect of human action--or interaction.

I suspect that you are probably also encountering Professors with varied degrees of enthusiasm for what they are serving up. Not all are really motivated to impose the dogma, but very few have the moral & intellectual courage to challenge the new Egalitarian orthodoxy that underlies what is being taught.

William Flax

[Ohioan]

The Tories certainly did not embrace the idea of undermining the existing social order & institutions by tactics of deception. Deception--the Wolf in Sheep's Clothing approach--is the essence of Fabian Socialism, as opposed to other forms of the malady.

Now some of the leading Jacobins, also of the affluent classes, donned Peasant dress to march on the Bastille in 1789 & the Bolshevik Communists, as J. Edgar Hoover wrote, were "Masters Of Deceit." But these other Collectivist Egalitarian movements did not deliberately hide their long term objectives in the same way that the Fabians did--and do.

William Flax

[Sam Gamgee]

That’s a fair point and in fact the brilliance of the Fabians. The Fabians knew the Bolshevists were eventually doomed to failure. The Fabian way is to infiltrate our institutions and movements year by year, decade by decade. The fact they have turned the greatest Republic into a socialist haven is a testament to their success. I would argue the environmental movement was either hatched or taken over by the Fabians.