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To: ProgressingAmerica
I have seen how it is done by those committed to destroying our heritage. (My Alma Mater, Oberlin, has been active in promoting a Leftward course since its founding in the 1830s. I went there precisely because as a young Conservative--back then--I wanted to take on the committed Leftist intellectuals as a training exercise to confront them, later. In the course of a very few weeks, I grasped the fundamental emotion driven underpinnings of Leftist arguments, found in verbal rationalizations, not for reasoned approaches, but for pursuing "wish lists.")

I may seem to be unkind, in that description. But if you look more closely, at almost any of their great projects in the 20th Century, both in how they approached them--via very selective sifting of any context;--and how they put them over, you will see my point confirmed.

Poe's little analysis of Mill, above, captured the basic intellectual dishonesty of the utilitarians; but that pales compared to the intellectual dishonesty of those using utilitarian arguments to pursue the fantasy of Egalitarian Collectivism. (And many of them are so far gone in compulsion limited thinking, that they are not even aware of what in the context of their programs they are ignoring to make those programs sound reasonable to those lacking good analytic skills.)

William Flax

14 posted on 03/08/2012 10:33:01 AM PST by Ohioan
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To: Ohioan
See, that explains it right there, you've also seen it first hand and you know exactly how this works. This also shows me how big of a blind spot this really is.

The way I'm being taught Utilitarianism I find to be alarming.(it's only one segment of the teaching, to be fair) Something that has been stated several times in class is that "in Utilitarianism, the individual does not matter" And that's also been in my book:

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I used a program to smudge parts of the image, college books are from what I've seen heavily, heavily guarded by copyright.(I can't blame them, I'd want to keep this stuff hidden from public view if I were a professional propagandist as well) but I left the relevant line visible. You can plainly see, "Individuals don't matter with this approach", and it is referring without question, to Utilitarianism.

16 posted on 03/08/2012 11:01:12 AM PST by ProgressingAmerica (What's the best way to reach a you tube generation? Put it on you tube!)
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