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An ugly Air Force cover up: Quinton Keel not fired, but promoted and allowed to resign
coachisright.com ^ | March 9, 2012 | Kevin "Coach" Collins

Posted on 03/09/2012 12:19:19 PM PST by jmaroneps37

Instead of being fired, Quinton Keel the Dover AFB mortuary supervisor who dumped 9/11 victims remains in landfill was promoted and allowed to resign after being promoted.

Keel whose ghoulish mistreatment of the remains of our fallen military heroes was brought to light by whistleblowers has been force out only because was caught retaliating against them.

According to Air Force sources Keel, showed no regard for our honored dead, and no remorse when his willful mishandling of our war heroes’ bodies was revealed by courageous whistleblowers. Instead of contrition Keel systematically retaliated against those who exposed him.

Keel has been accused of lying to authorities investigating charges that, among other things he ordered the arm of a fallen Marine be sawed off in order to force his body into a uniform!

Investigation also revealed that on Keel’s orders the remains of victims of the 9/11 attack on the Pentagon, and Iraq and Afghanistan War dead were merely incinerated then dumped in a landfill in Virginia.

While it is not clear what retaliatory measures Keel directed at the courageous and honest employees who reported his despicable conduct, investigators acknowledged they are also questioning two other supervisors as coconspirators in the ongoing retaliation.

Aside from Keel another man who should be sacked and not even given a chance to resign is Air Force Chief of Staff, Gen. Norton Schwartz.

When news of Keel’s atrocious conduct surfaced, Schwartz not only failed to fire him but actually created a new GS-13 pay grade position ($85,500) for him with the cynical title of “Air Force Survivor Assistance Program Manager.”

Now Keel will be able to ride off into the sunset and retire on a fat federal pension paid for by us, without regard for how he did his job or.....

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TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Military/Veterans; Politics
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This sob should be horse whipped not retired! The part about the sawed off arm made me well up.
1 posted on 03/09/2012 12:19:24 PM PST by jmaroneps37
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To: jmaroneps37

And what would you have done with the small bits and pieces of bone and dust that could not be identified????


2 posted on 03/09/2012 12:23:51 PM PST by Nifster
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To: Nifster

So you’d throw them into a landfill?


3 posted on 03/09/2012 12:24:43 PM PST by Darksheare (You will never defeat Bok Choy!)
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To: jmaroneps37

He must have something on someone.


4 posted on 03/09/2012 12:25:14 PM PST by FreeAtlanta (Liberty and Justice for ALL)
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To: jmaroneps37

Punishment for him should fit the crime.
Bury him in a landfill.


5 posted on 03/09/2012 12:25:51 PM PST by Darksheare (You will never defeat Bok Choy!)
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To: Lancey Howard; jazusamo; smoothsailing; bigheadfred

FYI ping


6 posted on 03/09/2012 12:26:04 PM PST by Gene Eric (Newt/Sarah 2012)
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To: Nifster

Considering that you could in 5 min get the cost of a proper burial for them whipped up on FR, I’d say burying them in one memorial plot with a marker, I’d say something like that.

I question why you are on a site like this with a question like that.


7 posted on 03/09/2012 12:28:42 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: Nifster

should be incinerated. there are cremation vendors in Dover
who could do this, and ashes could be respectfully scattered at sea or some hallowed place.

i would not go to the extreme of horsewhipping him, but
retiring in grade seems fair to me assuming that this was his only misstep. promoting him? no, that should hot have happened.


8 posted on 03/09/2012 12:29:38 PM PST by RitchieAprile
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To: Norm Lenhart; Nifster

Expect more morons with statements like that to appear later, Norm.
They apparently never heard of the mass graves of te unidentified from WWI and WWII.
Nor the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier.
In Nifsters world, soldiers and others who don’t get ID’d apparently are trash to be thrown out.


9 posted on 03/09/2012 12:31:05 PM PST by Darksheare (You will never defeat Bok Choy!)
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To: Nifster

“and Iraq and Afghanistan War dead were merely incinerated then dumped in a landfill in Virginia. “

These were already ID’d soldiers who were supposed to have been buried.


10 posted on 03/09/2012 12:34:33 PM PST by Darksheare (You will never defeat Bok Choy!)
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To: Nifster

Oh, and the line I pulled about the war dead from Iraq and Afghanistan is in the article.
Other threads on this deal with families expecting a proper burial only to find out this was how their loved ones were ‘taken care of’ by this creep.


11 posted on 03/09/2012 12:35:46 PM PST by Darksheare (You will never defeat Bok Choy!)
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To: jmaroneps37
People doing a sad, sad job with honor and respect.

Anybody who has never worked with dead bodies the consistency of soup should try it before casting stones.

12 posted on 03/09/2012 12:42:05 PM PST by Joe the Pimpernel (Islam is a religion of peace, and Moslems reserve the right to behead anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: Nifster

“And what would you have done with the small bits and pieces of bone and dust that could not be identified????”

Cremated and buried at Sea with respect? Or maybe in one mass grave at Arlington instead of another few politicians and donors? Or HEY, how about instead of a ground zero mosque, we have a ground zero columbarium?
Or how about mix in their ashes with concrete and build a runway ,,and launch B-52s from it.
I have all kinds of better ideas better than a biohazard bag in with the potato peels and baby diapers at the landfill.

And yes, mass graves can be respectful. Look at photos of Piskariovskoye Memorial Cemetery in St Petersburg Russia. 186 mounds, containing the remains of about 420,000 killed when the Nazis invaded.

But maybe a landfill better fits the Bush/Obama goal. After all, unlike the Jews after the holocaust, we are SUPPOSED to forget.
The last thing in the world they want is a sailor at sea, getting angry at islam when he watches yet ANOTHER burial detail occur. The last thing they want is a mound at Arlington, with a brass plaque explaining that these people died at the hands of islam.


13 posted on 03/09/2012 12:44:20 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: Darksheare; Nifster

Oh, no doubt. That level of abject stupidity usually comes with ‘friends’ willing to defend it.

Though I should no longer be surprised after the PDS/Paul/Romney Zotnarock, I guess even conservative websites are cursed with a DU level intellect from some posters.

And as demonstrated most aptly, like a cat with a Cheezeburger, Nifster ‘HaZ’ it.


14 posted on 03/09/2012 12:45:35 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: Joe the Pimpernel

I KNOW you want to take this back - at least I hope you do!


15 posted on 03/09/2012 12:47:23 PM PST by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: RitchieAprile

From what I’ve read this is not his first problem.


16 posted on 03/09/2012 12:47:58 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: jmaroneps37

I know better than to try to appease haters.


17 posted on 03/09/2012 12:50:38 PM PST by Joe the Pimpernel (Islam is a religion of peace, and Moslems reserve the right to behead anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: Joe the Pimpernel

I understand that, but that decomposed and mangled flesh was once human. If it could be transported to a landfill, it could have been shown respect and buried/cremated.


18 posted on 03/09/2012 12:51:53 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart

How many dead bodies have you dealt with?


19 posted on 03/09/2012 12:54:29 PM PST by Joe the Pimpernel (Islam is a religion of peace, and Moslems reserve the right to behead anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: Joe the Pimpernel

Nobody is hating on the body handlers in the morgue. We all realize thats no fun.
But absolutely yes, it is entirely justifiable to be harsh towards the decision makers in the front offices who decided where to dispose of those last remains. The workers at the tables don’t exactly freelance that decision.


20 posted on 03/09/2012 12:55:17 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: jmaroneps37

Trust me, from 40 years as a reporter/anchor, when you have a story with as many pejorative emotional adjectives and unnamed “sources,” some facts may be true, but 90% is BS!


21 posted on 03/09/2012 12:55:53 PM PST by MindBender26 (New Army SF and Ranger Slogan: Vengeance is Mine, sayeth the Lord.... but He subcontracts!)
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To: Joe the Pimpernel

Two directly, Three if you count the one I got back via CPR. All in bad shape, though ‘intact’... if it matters, along with dealing with some pretty horrific unrelated accidents.

So please explain in detail how if there is enough of a body left to throw in a dumpster, how that same ‘soup’ cannot be transported to either a crematorium or burial plot. An arm, a torso, or a tooth...there is enough there to bury is there not?

That’s all I’m saying. I know how little can remain. If there is enough to constitute “remains” there’s enough to treat with some level of respect greater than that we show dog vomit.


22 posted on 03/09/2012 1:00:24 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: Joe the Pimpernel

Quit your juvenile posturing. Money had to be allocated from the budget to use the landfill. So it was known to decision makers.
Nobody blames the workers in the basement. But the person who decided, this was not one of the body handlers. It was a person who never recognized why this is wrong, and never tried to argue with anyone higher up about it.

Nobody thinks the autopsy workers just threw the remains in their pickup to drop off at the dump. We are being critical of the policy maker decision. Not the work of anyone who has smelled a body in the last decade or 2.


23 posted on 03/09/2012 1:01:43 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: Norm Lenhart; Nifster

Yes.
Wondering just when Nifsters moron buddies will chime in to make stupid claims.


24 posted on 03/09/2012 1:03:26 PM PST by Darksheare (You will never defeat Bok Choy!)
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To: DesertRhino

Funny you would mention juvenile posturing.


25 posted on 03/09/2012 1:04:08 PM PST by Joe the Pimpernel (Islam is a religion of peace, and Moslems reserve the right to behead anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: Joe the Pimpernel; Norm Lenhart; DesertRhino

From the artcile:
“and Iraq and Afghanistan War dead were merely incinerated then dumped in a landfill in Virginia. “

Many of these were identifiable bodies.
Can you justify treating them like used Huggies diapers?
And please, tell this soldier [me] how you would treat MY remains sir?


26 posted on 03/09/2012 1:07:39 PM PST by Darksheare (You will never defeat Bok Choy!)
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To: Nifster
In August, 2007 a Black Hawk when down in Multaka,Iraq. All 14 dead. Bodies returned stateside for proper burial at sites designated by NOK. Later additional remains were recovered from the crash site. They were buried in one grave site in Arlington National Cemetery with full military honors in Oct. 2008. A marker naming all 14 was placed on the site.

Members of our recovery teams have died in Vietnam (helicopter crash) while searching for remains of our honored dead.

Land fills are not proper sites for disposal of our honored dead...

27 posted on 03/09/2012 1:12:23 PM PST by donozark (We're ALL Greeks now...)
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To: Joe the Pimpernel

All you have done is say “look at me,,, i’ve worked with bodies”,, and “bodies are gross sometimes”.
But you havent offered a single rational argument against why the gross bodies were disposed of with the banana peels and diapers. And why the leaders of this office didn’t have the sense to suggest a more appropriate solutions.

You are new, it will take more than puffery to prove your case. You could start by explaining the county dump made more sense than the small respectful mass grave that would be required for the ashes of a few thousand. The volume is not that large.


28 posted on 03/09/2012 1:13:26 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: Darksheare

While medical issues kept me out of the service (And believe me I tried getting in), I have both a daughter and son in law proudly serving in the USAF...which constitutes my skin in the game.

For people to take such a caviler attitude about this just shows me how effective the left has been in minimizing the value of human life. Sure, a human being is physically nothing but water and a few bounds of chemicals... but those chemicals were once alive and we kinda grow attached to them for some strange reason.

Pathetic. That’s all I can say. I don’t care how jaded one gets, when you lose the ability to respect the dead and pieces thereof, you are reduced to nothing but the formentioned chemicals. The humanity is long gone.


29 posted on 03/09/2012 1:14:05 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: donozark

when=went


30 posted on 03/09/2012 1:16:54 PM PST by donozark (We're ALL Greeks now...)
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To: Joe the Pimpernel; Nifster
People doing a sad, sad job with honor and respect.

While they are indeed doing a sad, sad job, I don't see a shred of honor or respect in treating these remains as if they were trash.

Anybody who has never worked with dead bodies the consistency of soup should try it before casting stones.

So having worked with dead bodies qualifies you to callously dispose of the remains? That's sick. (You'll probably get along quite well with Nifster. The two of you seem to be cut from the same cloth.)

31 posted on 03/09/2012 1:18:40 PM PST by Bob
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To: Bob

I learned a long time ago you can’t argue with ignorance.


32 posted on 03/09/2012 1:20:06 PM PST by Joe the Pimpernel (Islam is a religion of peace, and Moslems reserve the right to behead anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: Norm Lenhart

And i think it’s deliberate. They hate anything that reminds people or 9/11 and of muslim atrocities agains humanity.
This quiet trip to a landfill dovetails in nicely with us always being told it’s a “religion of peace”,,etc. Muslims not being profiled at airports,,, FBI terror training having to pass CAIR examinations,,etc.

Our government is desperately trying to mainstream islam here and make sure 9/11 is forgotten. This is part of that.


33 posted on 03/09/2012 1:21:47 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: Joe the Pimpernel

More name calling in response to clearly explained ideas?


34 posted on 03/09/2012 1:23:03 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: Joe the Pimpernel; Bob; Nifster

Funny, Bob’s post was well thought out and well stated.
And you call it ignorance?
I note that both you and Nifster have avoided my post 26.

You and Nifster wouldn’t happen to be trolling this thread because you hate soldiers, would you?
And many of the bodies that were put into that landfill were identifiable.
This creep cremated them and then dumped them.


35 posted on 03/09/2012 1:25:59 PM PST by Darksheare (You will never defeat Bok Choy!)
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To: Norm Lenhart

Agreed.
That some poeple have such an attitude about it, and take the time to insult the rest of us over it, tells me alot about them.


36 posted on 03/09/2012 1:28:07 PM PST by Darksheare (You will never defeat Bok Choy!)
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To: DesertRhino

Absolutely. I realize Bush’s whole ROP crap was designed to keep Americans from stringing up Koranimals on the homefront, but it was a sorely mistaken way to go about it (assuming it wasn’t intentional - which is far from proven). So this goes, as you say, right along with that...desensitize us, make us ‘accept’ what were told and how we should think about this and similar issues.

Bullshit.

People that want to spout liberal BS are liberals themselves by definition. And liberals- and their ideas - are the greatest evil of our time.


37 posted on 03/09/2012 1:28:22 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart

Me and my typos.
“People.”


38 posted on 03/09/2012 1:28:54 PM PST by Darksheare (You will never defeat Bok Choy!)
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To: Darksheare
You and Nifster wouldn’t happen to be trolling this thread because you hate soldiers, would you?

I disagree with you, therefore I hate soldiers.

You are as weak-minded as the racists who see racism anytime anybody disagrees with them.

39 posted on 03/09/2012 1:31:57 PM PST by Joe the Pimpernel (Islam is a religion of peace, and Moslems reserve the right to behead anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: Darksheare

No biggie, I just assumed you were a hardcore Edgar fan and were about to burst into ‘poe’tic verse ....

“Once upon a website clearly,
As I pondered very dearly,
Stupidity that mortal man,
Had seen the likes before....”

Or something ;)


40 posted on 03/09/2012 1:34:28 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: Joe the Pimpernel

What does your effluvium have to do with the fact that you think it’s okay to dispose of the remains of soldiers in a landfill?


41 posted on 03/09/2012 1:37:23 PM PST by Darksheare (You will never defeat Bok Choy!)
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To: Darksheare

You seem to have no trouble calling people names you disagree with.


42 posted on 03/09/2012 1:39:00 PM PST by Joe the Pimpernel (Islam is a religion of peace, and Moslems reserve the right to behead anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: Nifster; Joe the Pimpernel; mostly cajun; archy; Gringo1; Matthew James; Fred Mertz; Squantos; ...

Seems Nifster and Joe the Pimpernel want to make excuses for the callous treatment of the remains of our soldiers.
Many of these remains were identifiable before Quinton Keel disposed of them in a landfill.

Perhaps if the military members of FR were to weigh in on this?Oh, and questioning Joe teh Pimpernel on his support for the illegal dumping of remains in landfill gets you some drivel like post 39
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2856949/posts?page=39#39


43 posted on 03/09/2012 1:39:36 PM PST by Darksheare (You will never defeat Bok Choy!)
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To: Darksheare

He hasn’t answered any of the questions put to him so far honestly, so I’m thinking we got us a gen-U-ine troll if not an outright leftist, since actual conservatives don’t duck and run from things.


44 posted on 03/09/2012 1:40:57 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: Joe the Pimpernel

Again, what does your effluvium have to do with the fact that you think it’s okay to dispose of the remains of soldiers in a landfill?
You’re the one making excuses for it.
Not me.


45 posted on 03/09/2012 1:40:59 PM PST by Darksheare (You will never defeat Bok Choy!)
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To: Norm Lenhart

Yes, we’re dealing with someone who is trolling.


46 posted on 03/09/2012 1:41:26 PM PST by Darksheare (You will never defeat Bok Choy!)
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To: Darksheare

Is that longboats I see on the horizon and ozone in the air? Could be.


47 posted on 03/09/2012 1:43:19 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: Darksheare
Maybe you should take matters into your own hands and personally mete out the punishment this person deserves.

If you were a real man, that's what you'd do.

48 posted on 03/09/2012 1:43:25 PM PST by Joe the Pimpernel (Islam is a religion of peace, and Moslems reserve the right to behead anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: Norm Lenhart

Yes, it could be.


49 posted on 03/09/2012 1:44:04 PM PST by Darksheare (You will never defeat Bok Choy!)
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To: Joe the Pimpernel

Perhaps you should explain why you think it is okay to dispose of remains in a landfill?


50 posted on 03/09/2012 1:44:25 PM PST by Darksheare (You will never defeat Bok Choy!)
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