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SHERIFF JOE ARPAIO SAYS CRIMINAL FRAUD In Obama Birth Certificate AND Selective Service Card
www.webtoday.tv ^ | 03/09/2012 | WebToday.tv

Posted on 03/09/2012 12:28:55 PM PST by geraldmcg

An investigative “Cold Case Posse” begun in 2011 by “America’s toughest sheriff” – Joe Arpaio of Arizona’s Maricopa County concluded during a March 1, 2012 news conference that there is probable cause that the document released by the White House last year as President Obama’s birth certificate is a computer-generated forgery!

Analyst Steve Beaman, a number crunching genius who sold one of his companies to Charles Schwab that is now known as the Schwab Equity Rating, is available to discuss the political and economic implications of such high profile allegations.

Beaman explains how investigators did conducted their analysis. He says that the register stamp and date stamp in government documents are safety features to verify the authenticity of their documents. But the fact that those stamps on documents purported by Obama as being genuine were actually imported from outside sources showing with certainty that it was fraudulent...

(Excerpt) Read more at 888webtoday.com ...


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: 2012election; birthcertificate; birther; joearpaio; naturalborncitizen; obamacertificate; sheriffjoe
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1 posted on 03/09/2012 12:29:01 PM PST by geraldmcg
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To: geraldmcg
Obama as being genuine were actually imported from outside sources showing with certainty that it was fraudulent...

Among many other things that are fraudulent with it.

2 posted on 03/09/2012 12:33:55 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: geraldmcg

Shout it from the mountaintops, Joe!


3 posted on 03/09/2012 12:40:09 PM PST by ransacked
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To: geraldmcg

Until an arrest warrant is issued .... so what?


4 posted on 03/09/2012 12:41:45 PM PST by taxcontrol
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To: ransacked

It does not matter how loud Sheriff Joe shouts.

The sheeple have no passion for truth, and the propaganda media most think is “news” will not cover this.

No court that wields enough authority to do anything about it will bother to hear it.

Sorry to be such a downer, but we have to accept the reality of the situation.


5 posted on 03/09/2012 12:47:47 PM PST by MikeSteelBe (Austrian Hitler was, as the Halfrican Hitler does.)
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To: geraldmcg
Selective Service registration: Is there anybody out there who registered in 1980, the year stamped on Obama's Selective Service form?

Is your number close to Obama's number?

Where did you register?

Obama's signature: I know people's signatures change as they get older, but, to me, Obama's signature on the Selective Service form is not even close to the way he signs his name today. Not even close.

6 posted on 03/09/2012 12:50:58 PM PST by john mirse
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To: Red Steel

In Before the Trust Obama Crowd


7 posted on 03/09/2012 12:52:34 PM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: geraldmcg
The bottom line is, "genuine" people don't have any problem showing the required documentation to participate in life's activites.

"Genuine" people tend to brag about their college days, and grades, not pay a bunch of legal hacks to hide them.

"Genuine" people would not haved waited until the middle of the second year of their tenure to produce their "birth certificate", and if they had, at least it would be REAL.

obama's whole presidency stinks like a cesspool and the press is swimming in it.

This administration and it's press boys and girls have elevated the phrase, "Don't piss on my shoes and tell me it's raining" to a new art form.

Clinton got impeached for lying, and it seems that lying coupled with fraud and forgery is even worse. But, clinton didn't have the melanin to protect him.

I guess sometimes it's better to wait until the roller coaster stops than try to climb the trestle to remove an unwanted guest. We can just hope he doesn't completely wreck it before the end.
8 posted on 03/09/2012 12:54:09 PM PST by FrankR
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To: MikeSteelBe
Sorry to be such a downer, but we have to accept the reality of the situation.

What if the founding fathers had that same thought? Evil only win when good men do nothing.

9 posted on 03/09/2012 12:56:03 PM PST by dragonblustar (Allah Ain't So Akbar!)
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To: john mirse

“Obama’s signature: I know people’s signatures change as they get older, but, to me, Obama’s signature on the Selective Service form is not even close to the way he signs his name today. Not even close.”

The evidence Arpaio has amassed suggested this document is forged. OTOH, wouldn’t you expect a forger to take pains to make a duplicate of Obama’s signature that looked much more like his own? Thus, I don’t know how much weight to attach to the signature’s not looking like his current signature.


10 posted on 03/09/2012 1:03:56 PM PST by DrC
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To: geraldmcg

From the article: “Furthermore its ‘safety verification stamps’ were completely moveable to any point of the document. No original birth certificate circa the date of Obama’s birth could possibly have had such movable computerized elements. So the purported birth certificate was an assembly of words, stamps and seals, rather than a cohesive single document consistent with technology of the 1960s.”


11 posted on 03/09/2012 1:08:29 PM PST by Unknowing (Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country.)
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To: dragonblustar
What if the founding fathers had that same thought? Evil only win when good men do nothing.

Exactly so. Hopefully there are enough uncorrupted people left who can see this through.

Even if those holding the levers of power derail this effort, we must inform and replace them. No one said it was easy. Now is not the time to waiver, especially when this can be bloodless. The Founders paid dearly. Let's not dishonor their sacrifice.

12 posted on 03/09/2012 1:28:29 PM PST by nonsporting
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To: geraldmcg

We’ve all known it was a manufactured document for months now, Sheriff Joe is late to that party. Proving that the information in the fake BC is a different matter, and unless he can do something about it prima facie, i.e. that a fraudulent document was submitted in response to a state law or something, he won’t get any further than anyone else has with this.


13 posted on 03/09/2012 1:29:44 PM PST by bigbob
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To: nonsporting

Um, the feckless Republican run Congress is showing they are not ‘good men’, so we ought not expect them to do anything because they are neither good men doing nothing, nor smart enought o understand how they are being led to their own slaughter by the enemies of the Republic known as the Democrat party.


14 posted on 03/09/2012 1:33:14 PM PST by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: MikeSteelBe

“we have to accept the reality of the situation”

Germans .... Pearl Harbor


15 posted on 03/09/2012 1:43:06 PM PST by tumblindice ( our new, happy lives)
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To: geraldmcg
Debbie Schlussel was all over this in 2008.

EXCLUSIVE: Did Next Commander-in-Chief Falsify Selective Service Registration? Never Actually Register? Obama’s Draft Registration Raises Serious Questions

-PJ

16 posted on 03/09/2012 1:48:29 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you can vote for President, then your children can run for President.)
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To: MikeSteelBe

You’re not a “downer”. You’re a realist. The people who support obama worship him as a God.

My belief is all of this is predicted in a book I don’t read nearly often enough.


17 posted on 03/09/2012 2:16:04 PM PST by Terry Mross ("It happened. And we let it happen." - Peter Griffin)
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To: Red Steel

BIRTH CERTIFICATE, SOCIAL SECURITY CARD, DRAFT CARD phoney as a three dollar bill. That makes obama and the socialist democrat left as phoney as a three dollar bill also. Anybody see any proof coming from obama or his phoney supporters. NO. And you never will. How can you defend phoney documents. BY PRODUCING THE ORIGINALS. OK, WHERE ARE THEY. It’s all over politically for these frauds as this story will continue to grow and gain traction as we approach November. I hope those that commited any fraud get jail time.


18 posted on 03/09/2012 2:57:00 PM PST by spawn44
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To: onyx; penelopesire; maggief; hoosiermama; SE Mom; Liz; rodguy911; Fred Nerks; Red Steel; ...

TURN ON FOX - 5:12 pm ct

I don’t know who yet, but Brett Baier just said
coming up is someone else questioning BHO’s eligibility.


19 posted on 03/09/2012 3:13:18 PM PST by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: RedMDer; TheOldLady; trisham

See above — COMING UP ON FOX


20 posted on 03/09/2012 3:15:31 PM PST by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: ransacked

Arpaio for VP! Seriously.


21 posted on 03/09/2012 3:15:31 PM PST by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter")
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To: STARWISE

Will Fox play hide and seek for Obama, or will they say something of substance that, as we know, that Obama is lying and so is his administration?


22 posted on 03/09/2012 3:18:08 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

I dunno .. it must be coming up in the grapevine.

Maybe they’ll actually report on the person of
interest Arpaio’s team has identified in their
document frauds.


23 posted on 03/09/2012 3:23:36 PM PST by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: STARWISE

Baier had a lead in teaser, saying something about “Missing the point.”


24 posted on 03/09/2012 3:29:58 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

Whodathunk Brewer would be such a wuss?
Her own damn brave sheriff! Jeeeze ... what
was she threatened with??


25 posted on 03/09/2012 3:32:45 PM PST by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: STARWISE

Jan Brewer was Secretary of State when AZ placed hussein on the ballot. She certified him. I love her but like I said...she certified him.


26 posted on 03/09/2012 3:38:34 PM PST by azishot
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To: STARWISE

Plenty of wusses in government to go around.


27 posted on 03/09/2012 3:38:42 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: taxcontrol
This is bigger than Watergate and gaining slowwwwww but sure traction.

Try to generate some enthusiasm for this is huge.

I see this as the biggest story of the decade at the very least.

28 posted on 03/09/2012 3:46:02 PM PST by Manic_Episode (Politics is fake. I think it's owned by Vince Mcmahon)
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To: Manic_Episode

it may well be bigger than the Kennedy assasination....just depends on how far investigations go. Imagine a usurper in the WH a fraud !


29 posted on 03/09/2012 4:39:59 PM PST by rolling_stone
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To: STARWISE

Thanks Star! It is sickening to watch this very important issue being ridiculed by the MSM and politicians. We have disregarded the warnings given by our founders and are now paying the price.
Even without the birth certificate, Obama has admitted that he is not eligible for the office by stating in his book that his father was NEVER AN AMERICAN CITIZEN.

Throw the Marxist out. HELLO HOUSE! HELLO SENATE! HELLO SCOTUS!


30 posted on 03/09/2012 4:41:58 PM PST by RedMDer (https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default.aspx?tsid=93)
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To: Red Steel

We don’t have cable, so if you could let me know what they show I’d greatly appreciate it.

If law enforcement means nothing even when the stakes are as high as they could possibly be we may as well just cede America to the Mexican drug cartels and Hezbollah right now. Everybody fork over your kids and have them and yourself bare your necks. Could save some time by tying yourselves up too...

That’s what this is coming down to. Do we just let go of civilization and become Afghanistan or Iran like sheep led to the slaughter, or is there something in life that’s worth fighting for? We need a talk from Sam Gamgee.

Somebody mentioned that we need to do something now when it can be bloodless. There’s already been blood spilled, and it’s only going to get worse. Chamberlain believed there was a way to appease the Third Reich beast, and because he wouldn’t be serious during the time for peaceful strength it cost millions and millions of lives. If we do the same we’re fools. We need to be telling our Congress-critters RIGHT NOW that there is no peace that can be had when the rule of law is thrown out the window. We need to tell them we are not prepared to hand our children over to the druglords or Hezbollah to have them beheaded and hung from a bridge. And that is where this lawlessness is leading. It’s where it ALWAYS leads.

There’s a video going viral about atrocities committed in Africa. People have GOT to realize that is ALWAYS what comes from a lawless regime, and that is directly where the US is headed unless we confront the great battle of our day now, before it is too late. It’s not time to mope; it’s time to get off our duffs and fight like men!


31 posted on 03/09/2012 4:57:23 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: STARWISE

I don’t have cable or satellite. Is there somewhere to see it online?

Thanks!


32 posted on 03/09/2012 5:00:22 PM PST by HoneysuckleTN (Where the woodbine twineth...)
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To: butterdezillion
If law enforcement means nothing even when the stakes are as high as they could possibly be we may as well just cede America to the Mexican drug cartels and Hezbollah right now.

Law enforcement indeed means nothing when the powers-that-be are threatened. Plan accordingly.

It is not appropriate to cede anything in any forum to the current gang of socialists who control our country right now. Power is always temporary.

33 posted on 03/09/2012 5:07:37 PM PST by flamberge (What next?)
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To: STARWISE

What did I miss?


34 posted on 03/09/2012 5:51:16 PM PST by Danae (Anáil nathrach, ortha bháis is beatha, do chéal déanaimh)
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To: Danae

At Thursday’s news conference, investigators said they will request a criminal investigation. They also said they have identified a person of interest in the forgery of the birth certificate.

http://www.atlnightspots.com/2012/video-sheriff-joe-arpaio-obama-birth-certificate-a-forgery

I watched just about the whole thing ..recall they said they had also id’d the computer and make. It’s toward the end of the hour+ presser.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yerPzQ4doyU


35 posted on 03/09/2012 6:12:50 PM PST by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: butterdezillion; Red Steel; LucyT; STARWISE; Nachum
Baier did a pretty straight up news report that Arpaio has complained that there is a MSM blackout on covering his “probable cause” evidence. Take that Bill O’Reilly!

Baier put up the logos of the NY Times, WaPo, NBC, CBS, ABC and said that none of them had covered Arpaio’s Posse findings.

Baier added that Gov Brewer had declined to support Arpaio and the WH served up a link to their BC mug.

My only complaint is that Baier did not mention that Brewer said while she “had every reason to believe Obama was born in Hawaii” because “she had talked to her counterpart” there (not clear whether it was as Gov or AG)...she had not looked into the matter, as Arpaio had.

36 posted on 03/09/2012 7:01:29 PM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: HoneysuckleTN; azishot; Flotsam_Jetsome; MestaMachine

I’m wondering if it was related to what’s at http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/special-report/2012/03/09/grapevine-50-light-bulb

I would appreciate a written statement from Jan Brewer explaining exactly what evidence she was talking about when she said she “has every reason to believe the president’s birth certificate is valid”.

The posse gave their reasons for saying there is probable cause for fraud and forgery of Obama’s birth certificate and draft registration. What evidence does Jan Brewer have to refute that evidence, and what does she claim as her credentials to decide such a thing?

I want a WRITTEN STATEMENT FROM HER saying exactly why she thinks she knows better than the law enforcement detectives who have researched this for 6 months.

Pinging a few people who might be able to help get an answer from Jan Brewer on this. It makes no sense for Jan Brewer to b!tch about the lawlessness of the DOJ on either Fast and Furious or their refusing to enforce the border, if she’s gonna piss in the face of her own law enforcement people who have spent 6 months and presented evidence of crimes committed.

Lawlessness is lawlessness. You sleep with the dogs, you’re gonna get fleas. There’s no way to pick up the clean end of a turd. Either Jan Brewer sides with the rule of the law, or she is one of the enemies of this country. She needs to make up her mind which side of the fence she’s on. The rule of law, or lawless thugs just like the drug cartels that are advancing on her borders.


37 posted on 03/09/2012 7:02:37 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: Seizethecarp

Jan Brewer, as governor, needs to talk to Mike Zullo and find out exactly how much credibility he places on either the AG or Governor of Hawaii, or the HDOH for that matter. If Brewer has a few hours she might be able to get a SMALL piece of the evidence we have that they are all accomplices to the crimes. Zullo didn’t go into it at the press conference because it wasn’t directly related to Obama’s eligibility or what Obama has proffered for his supposed eligibility, but he did mention that it seems that the HDOH is obfuscating.

And when Zullo talked about the line-item registration, I believe he was talking about the birth index. We know that there are names from legally non-valid BC’s that are included in what they call their 1960-64 birth index.

I better just shut up. There’s way too much I could say to Jan Brewer about Hawaii government if she has the stomach for it.

I’d love to ask her what valid reason the HDOH has for refusing to allow Duncan Sunahara to see a photocopy of his sister’s original birth certificate.

This is the birth certificate that a worker at the HDOH said was not in their database even though the name appeared in their 1960-64 birth index.

It’s also the birth certificate for a person whose details fit the specific data that was altered on Obama’s forged long-form: a girl (since the gender was altered for Obama’s BC) born at Wahiawa (since the local registrar is for the Wahiawa Hospital), having R as the third letter of the first name (since only that letter was not altered on Obama’s BC).

The “date filed” and BC# for Obama’s forged BC would fit the exact circumstances of Virginia’s birth and death but not for anybody else, since her death certificate used a different name than her birth certificate and the HDOH would thus have had to ascertain from the hospital and/or family which name was the correct one before numbering the BC, after initially stamping a filing date for what they thought was a complete, no-problem BC.

So maybe Jan Brewer can tell us why it is acceptable for the HDOH to break Hawaii’s disclosure law (UIPA) by refusing to allow Duncan Sunahara to see either the original or a copy of the original birth certificate...

Somebody needs to ask her this stuff. As long as people can hide behind vague generalities they can cover up the lies and lawlessness, but when the real facts hit them between the eyeballs that person’s true character has to be revealed. Brewer needs to show us who she really is. She must NOT be allowed to hide herself from the facts.


38 posted on 03/09/2012 7:17:34 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion
Brewer's real test will come when Arpaio takes the next step. Until the evidence gets proved up in a court of law it is hearsay...”Arpaio’s Posse says...”

Arpaio says he had made two “probable cause” findings of felony fraud against some or all of the people of Maricopa, the State of AZ and the citizens of the US.

Arpaio has to find the best law enforcement group to pursue this investigation to the point of indicting someone for the fraudulent document creation and foisting on the public from the WH.

Daryl Issa could do it or the FBI could do it or an independent prosecutor could eventually do it, such as Fitzgerald (urp!).

39 posted on 03/09/2012 8:19:46 PM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: Terry Mross

“My belief is all of this is predicted in a book I don’t read nearly often enough.”

That book has examples where evil but powerful rulers were utilized by God to discipline His people. Hitler is a current example of this principle.

We have killed about 10 times as many unborn babies as the third reich did Jews.


40 posted on 03/09/2012 8:23:35 PM PST by MikeSteelBe (Austrian Hitler was, as the Halfrican Hitler does.)
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To: taxcontrol

Sheriff Arpaio believes this to be a congressional matter and would like for the citizens to demand it. He has provided probable cause in his opinion. He is asking for heat on representatives from us. Have you done anything?


41 posted on 03/09/2012 8:25:05 PM PST by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)/?)
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To: dragonblustar

“What if the founding fathers had that same thought? Evil only win when good men do nothing.”

My point was that the founding fathers DID accept the reality of the situation. There came a point when the founding fathers accepted the fact that the soapbox and ballot box were no longer viable means of securing liberty and justice for the people.

The original seal of the US said “Rebellion against tyrants is obedience to God.”

http://www.greatseal.com/committees/firstcomm/reverse.html


42 posted on 03/09/2012 8:30:55 PM PST by MikeSteelBe (Austrian Hitler was, as the Halfrican Hitler does.)
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To: butterdezillion

Thanks for that link.


43 posted on 03/09/2012 8:30:55 PM PST by HoneysuckleTN (Where the woodbine twineth...)
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To: HoneysuckleTN
And speaking of FRAUD, what about Obama’s multiple Social Security Numbers and the fact he's using one that belongs to a dead man? Just a thought.
44 posted on 03/09/2012 9:09:46 PM PST by MasterGunner01 (11)
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To: azishot

Thanks. I’ve had nagging ambivalent feelings about her.


45 posted on 03/09/2012 9:15:14 PM PST by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: HoneysuckleTN

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yerPzQ4doyU


46 posted on 03/09/2012 9:30:08 PM PST by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: geraldmcg; TheOldLady; tomdavidd; Freeper; Gvl_M3; Flotsam_Jetsome; Berlin_Freeper; ...
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47 posted on 03/10/2012 12:26:40 AM PST by LucyT
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To: butterdezillion
The “date filed” and BC# for Obama’s forged BC would fit the exact circumstances of Virginia’s birth and death but not for anybody else, since her death certificate used a different name than her birth certificate and the HDOH would thus have had to ascertain from the hospital and/or family which name was the correct one before numbering the BC, after initially stamping a filing date for what they thought was a complete, no-problem BC.

They can't release the birth certificate for Virginia Sunahara because the number that corresponds with her date of birth isn't available any longer...someone else has got the number...and they gave Virginia a number amended on the 29 of August, two weeks after her birth, and a number that's more than 400 in the future from her birth...so if there isn't a Tomyio Sunahara at number 10641 there can only be one answer...


48 posted on 03/10/2012 2:16:05 AM PST by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: Fred Nerks

Why not get Virginia’s brother on talk shows. It would be cheaper and quicker than dragging thru a fixed court. The only people that know about this issue are FRs and bloggers. No one has the juice to get this on cABLE tv or even radio? Nothing has to be said about the tie to Obama’s BC. Just that Ha. refuses to give up Virginia’s BC. I bet the attention would help. IMHO


49 posted on 03/10/2012 5:31:27 AM PST by DrDude (Governor of the 57th State)
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To: john mirse

I registered on 8/28/1980 in Connecticut.

Obama (supposedly) registered on 7/29/1980, (supposedly) in Hawaii, one month before I did.

He (supposedly) registered BEFORE I did. My number is LOWER than his. I’m not sure of the significance or how the numbers are assigned.


50 posted on 03/10/2012 6:51:51 AM PST by snafubar
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