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ABC looks to Southern Poverty Law Center as expert on anti-government militias
Coach is Right ^ | 3/15/2012 | Doug Book

Posted on 03/15/2012 10:46:33 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax

Last week, ABC’s Diane Sawyer hosted dire warnings about the rising number of government-hating militias and the danger they presumably pose to the American public. (1)

And to whom did Sawyer and ABC correspondent Dan Harris turn for evidence that new, active militia groups are sprouting up all over the nation?

Why to the Southern Poverty Law Center, of course.

The SPLC was founded in 1971 by far-left, money and notoriety huckster Morris Dees, a man who has spent years collecting vast sums via civil law suits and spending vast sums in donation raising schemes. His antipathy for the right is legendary.

In 1995, Dees placed an SPLC informant in Elohim City, Oklahoma, using him to spy on members of the Aryan Republican Army, an organization of white supremacists whose members were involved in the Oklahoma City bombing.

Former FBI head Louis Freeh mentioned Dees and his SPLC informant in confidential, interoffice Bureau memos and some have since wondered whether Dees and the SPLC might have played a role in advancing the plot of the bombers by purposely keeping details and information from the government.

Did Dees and the far left SPLC allow the deaths of 168 people to take place knowing that militia groups, guilty or not would universally suffer the blame? To this day Dees refuses to discuss what his informant might have seen or done.

And this is the non-biased, non-agenda driven group to which non-biased, non-agenda driven Diane Sawyer turns for the inside scoop on America’s law-flouting “hate groups.”

In fact, in ABC’s report...

(Excerpt) Read more at ...

TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: abcnews; dees; militias; morrisdees; splc

1 posted on 03/15/2012 10:46:43 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax
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To: Oldpuppymax

Who does ABC have investigating anti-American Politicians?

2 posted on 03/15/2012 10:52:06 AM PDT by G Larry (We are NOT obliged to carry the snake in our pocket and then dismiss the bites as natural behavior.)
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To: Oldpuppymax

Virtually the entire media is suffering from OAK Syndrome.

Obama Ass Kissing Syndrome. If Obama is not around, then any other militant leftist ass will do.

3 posted on 03/15/2012 10:55:16 AM PDT by yarddog
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To: Oldpuppymax

This should fit just right into the MSM narrative.... How long until they manufacture a tie to the TEA Party, Rush Limbaugh, etc. directly?

What empircal evidendence shows that there are any more so-called militias in existence today than in the past? And if there is a significant increase - wouldn’t that be a leading indicator of the public being fed up with the marxist regime?

4 posted on 03/15/2012 11:09:34 AM PDT by Made In The USA (This post may be recorded for quality purposes.)
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To: Made In The USA
"What empircal evidendence shows that there are any more so-called militias in existence today than in the past?"

Oh it's worse than that. SPLC calls anyone who believes government is too large or powerful an "anti-government hate group". In fact I do believe they proclaim Free Republic to be an anti government hate site.

5 posted on 03/15/2012 11:14:28 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: Oldpuppymax

I’ve got news for you, It is not just ABC, our own government looks to SPLC for certain intel and information.

6 posted on 03/15/2012 11:17:29 AM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: Oldpuppymax

There will never be a shortage of left wing organizations with touchy-feely sounding names for the left wing mainstream media to run to in order to attack conservatives.

7 posted on 03/15/2012 11:19:34 AM PDT by Tatze (I reject your reality and substitute my own!)
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SPLC: The Ultimate Hate Group

FAIR Investigative Report on Hate Groups and Nativist Extremists

Journalist Alert: Beware the Politicized “Hate Group” Designations by the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC)

A Special Investigative Analysis from FAIR Journalist’s Guide to the SPLC and Immigration

A guide for those actively involved in writing about immigration policy. SPLC guide

The latest “hate group” report issued by the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) demonstrates once again that the SPLC is neither a reliable source of information nor an “objective observer” in the immigration policy debate. The latest report issued by the SLPC is long on rhetoric and allegations and short of facts. Responsible journalists will not accept these SPLC allegations at face value; they will independently investigate any and all claims made by the SPLC.

Grasping for attention, and no doubt to expand its donor base, the SPLC’s recent report claims that the number of so-called “hate groups” has risen 4 percent since 2008 and over 50 percent since 2000. With great fanfare, they warn their own members and uncritical journalists of a “firestorm” of hate engulfing the land. Yet, the Southern Poverty Law Center offers no concrete information about these so-called “hate groups.” For example, the Southern Poverty Law Center never identifies exactly where they are; or even who are they, what they believe, or how they act. How many members do they have, if any? Do they have money? How can you contact them? Do they really even exist as an operational group?

Occasionally, unsuspecting journalists swallow the bait hook, line and sinker, conferring on the Southern Poverty Law Center or SPLC some claim to quasi-official status, and that the SPLC designation is entitled to some official respect or recognition. Of course nothing could be further from the truth. The Southern Poverty Law Center made up the term, and has shown time and again that its use of the term “hate group” is merely a strategy to try to discourage and suppress political speech in this country.

What is a “hate group”?

In the eyes of the law, there is no such thing. It does not exist in federal statutes; the term is entirely a concoction of the SPLC. Moreover, the SPLC has no concrete definition; it slides based on its current political objective.

What is implied with the term?

The Southern Poverty Law Center uses this term to imply - at least in the minds of most people - that those who belong to a “hate group” advocate criminal violence against other people solely on account of race, ethnicity or some other immutable characteristic. Yet the SPLC fudges, and then itself says that “hate group activities” can also include “marches, rallies, speeches, meetings, leafleting or publishing.” (See the SPLC website) Isn’t this how most individuals exercising free speech act? Under this absurdly incomplete definition, how would a non- “hate group” behave? How has the SPLC used the term “hate group” and “nativist extremist”?

Recently, the SPLC is using the term to try to smear the entire national immigration reform movement: millions of Americans all across the country are being tarred and smeared by the SPLC without cause. Once the SPLC designates a group, its allies who favor mass immigration cheerfully tout the designation as somehow trumping the need for serious policy debate. For example, the controversial National Council of La Raza claimed on its website that one in seven Americans (equaling 45 million people) belongs to “hate” or “nativist extremist” groups. This claim, posted on its affiliated website was unambiguously designed to discourage people from opposing mass amnesty or even have a genuine political debate about the issue of immigration reform.

Remarkably, the SPLC and its allies have gone so far as to state that the “debate itself” has caused a rise in the number of “hate crimes” against Latinos. No real evidence is provided, except for fluctuating FBI data - data that both the FBI and SPLC warn is unreliable (See the FBI’s “Caution to Readers”) The SPLC in fact quotes “experts” declaring the FBI’s hate crime data to be “worthless” (See the SPLC’s Intelligence Report), yet then turns around and uses the same data to calculate what it determines to be a dramatic increase in the level of hate crime.

Clearly, through its “hate group” strategy, the SPLC is laying the groundwork for arguing that it should be unlawful for Americans to even advocate for the enforcement of current immigration laws. This year, the SPLC decided to simply designate - we’d call it smear - hundreds of thousands of innocent Americans working for immigration reform as being members of “nativist extremist” groups. Again, there is no real definition for what this designation means, only that these groups are “groups that go after people, not policy.” (See this SPLC article in their Intelligence Report) What strikes many as particularly illogical is that only a handful of the list of “nativist extremist” groups are designated as “hate groups” even though these are the groups that are supposed to go after individuals. Of course, most of these organizations are simply well-meaning citizens who are active in supporting immigration law enforcement, improved state/local cooperation to discourage illegal immigration. The Southern Poverty Law Center is now doing this on behalf of interests who oppose interior immigration enforcement and support mass amnesty in response to illegal immigration. They do this because those interests have found themselves on the losing side of a long list of policy battles.

The implications for journalists? This means journalists must be responsible enough to independently judge absurd claims and facts made by the SPLC. Once you begin to try to verify their claims and facts, we are confident you will soon recognize that the Southern Poverty Law Center is not a credible organization, and that its so-called “hate group” designations have become virtually meaningless - fabricated out of thin air to manipulate opinion and control speech. It means no longer relying on the SPLC’s designation of a “hate group” as dispositive of anything other than what it is: an intimidation tactic intended to suppress meaningful debate over the controversial and difficult subjects like immigration reform. Its use is journalistically unethical.

For the public, it means recognizing that terms like “racist” and “hate group” are becoming modern day substitutes for intelligent discussion and an exchange of ideas. In today’s context, we hope it will generate a fierce determination to ensure that public debate on important policy ideas, like immigration control, can be carried out free of the sort of marginal tactics associated with marginal and discredited organizations like the Southern Poverty Law Center.

For more information: go to

A statement from the Federation for American Immigration Reform, 25 Massachusetts Avenue, N.W., Suite 330, Washington, DC 20001

This website has NOT been approved by the Southern Poverty Law Center, nor does this website have any affiliation with Southern Poverty Law Center. This website was designed to provide information about the Southern Poverty Law Center from FAIR, the Federation for American Immigration Reform. The official SPLC website is available at

8 posted on 03/15/2012 11:22:48 AM PDT by pabianice (")
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To: Oldpuppymax

I can see how these groups are a threat to the government, but how are they a threat to the people???

9 posted on 03/15/2012 11:28:38 AM PDT by phockthis ( ...)
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To: Oldpuppymax

Whenever the leftist govt needs a bogeman they always dredge up the anti govt militias.

10 posted on 03/15/2012 11:41:20 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Oldpuppymax
OKC: A Noble Lie
11 posted on 03/15/2012 12:12:11 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: phockthis

“I can see how these groups are a threat to the government, but how are they a threat to the people???”

The Regime no doubt is concerned that the “weak minded” among us might actually take up the cause of one of these dangerous, wrong-thinking groups!

12 posted on 03/15/2012 2:08:44 PM PDT by Oldpuppymax
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To: Oldpuppymax

SPLC == Sodomites, Perverts, Libertines, Communists

13 posted on 03/15/2012 4:10:57 PM PDT by nonsporting
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