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Carney to bishops: Birth control decision is final
Daily Caller ^ | 3/15/12 | Neil Munro

Posted on 03/15/2012 5:30:16 PM PDT by Nachum

White House spokesman Jay Carney on Thursday dismissed calls for a reconsideration of President Barack Obama’s controversial regulation of the health care policies offered by religious organizations, one day after Catholic leaders repeated their offer to hash out an agreement. “The solution that was reached here … has been reached, and we firmly believe that it achieves the goals that the president set,” Carney said at Thursday’s White House press conference. On Feb. 10 Obama announced a new regulation that forces religious groups to financially support activities they abhor, but that the government supports. In particular, the president directed religious

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Administration to Catholics: "Want some mustard with your cr*p sandwich?"
1 posted on 03/15/2012 5:30:25 PM PDT by Nachum
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

The list, Ping

Let me know if you would like to be on or off the ping list

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2 posted on 03/15/2012 5:31:14 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum

Let’s see Obama try this with Islam.
Oh wait, never mind.


3 posted on 03/15/2012 5:33:09 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Nachum

Gosh, do you suppose this could possibly motivate any of them to vote Republican in November? Nah...


4 posted on 03/15/2012 5:34:21 PM PDT by ottbmare (The OTTB Mare)
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To: Nachum

Onward Christian soldiers.


5 posted on 03/15/2012 5:34:40 PM PDT by tractorman (I never miss a chance to tweak a liberal.)
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To: Nachum

Too cool! The boy king has drawn a line in the sand.


6 posted on 03/15/2012 5:35:13 PM PDT by TexasSecede79366 (Soap box,jury box,ballot box,bullet box. Where are we now?)
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To: Nachum
Carney is such a Fascist POS. Did he go to a private Catholic school perhaps?

I'm getting the feeling this guy sat there someplace nursing rapped knuckles and vowing revenge ~ same with Obama. We know he went to a private Catholic school in Indonesia.

We shouldn't allow such people into government jobs.

7 posted on 03/15/2012 5:38:26 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Nachum; flat; Doogle; JLAGRAYFOX; overbore; Free ThinkerNY; rodguy911; Forty-Niner; seekthetruth; ..

The Gestapo thinks they have spoken. Ya think the Regime thinks they’ve already established a dictatorship and we’re their slaves? November will prove how really seething angry we are!


8 posted on 03/15/2012 5:40:52 PM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: Nachum

Welcome to America’s version of Europe’s state church tax.

Only our’s is to the church of the secular. Whether you pray in it or not, you *WILL* pay.

Congratulations, everyone! Happy now that we’ve got church and state back together?


9 posted on 03/15/2012 5:42:04 PM PDT by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: Nachum

The Catholic Church should close their hospitals and use the buildings for something else.

So when voters have to wait months for routine medical care because there just aren’t any doctors available, they can feel as good about Obama’s communist healthcare as they feel about his “global warming” energy policy when they buy $5+/gallon gas.

One question though: How did the Catholic Church respond to Mitt Romney forcing the same crap sandwich down their throats?


10 posted on 03/15/2012 5:42:27 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: Nachum
one day after Catholic leaders repeated their offer to hash out an agreement

Never try to cut a deal with the devil. He'll steal your soul and destroy you anyway.

11 posted on 03/15/2012 5:43:04 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Without virtue, happiness cannot be. -- Thomas Jefferson)
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To: EternalVigilance; All

Let us see how many Catholics vote for Obama a second time.


12 posted on 03/15/2012 5:45:26 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: Nachum

The Bishops’ solution is similar to the directions given at Fatima. Will they do it? The ball is in their court *especially* in the spiritual sense.


13 posted on 03/15/2012 5:45:47 PM PDT by Lauren BaRecall (I declare for Santorum)
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To: TexasSecede79366
The King...
has spoken

14 posted on 03/15/2012 5:46:32 PM PDT by Aevery_Freeman (Typed using <FONT STYLE=SARCASM> unless otherwise noted)
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To: Nachum

The godless Obama and the godless Jay Carney just don’t get it. I will not choose dumplin ears and his mandates over my Faith!


15 posted on 03/15/2012 5:46:49 PM PDT by RedMDer (https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default.aspx?tsid=93)
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To: Lauren BaRecall

Please clarify exactly what you mean. Thanks.


16 posted on 03/15/2012 5:49:26 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature not nurture TM)
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To: butterdezillion
The Catholic Church should close their hospitals

It has already been warned that will be the case along with the other good works that are done by The Catholic Church worldwide.

17 posted on 03/15/2012 5:50:04 PM PDT by RedMDer (https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default.aspx?tsid=93)
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To: Nachum
Carney to bishops: Birth control decision is final

No, dead is final.

And some folks in the government are going to wake up that way if this persists.

Seriously, can you think of a better way for the Obama administration to foment a civil war than force the religious population to pay for infant murder? There are some, yes, but not many.

18 posted on 03/15/2012 5:54:15 PM PDT by backwoods-engineer (I will vote against ANY presidential candidate who had non-citizen parents.)
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To: Nachum

Had a republican attempted such a thing, the dims and their pal’s in the media would be screaming separation of church and state.


19 posted on 03/15/2012 5:56:21 PM PDT by True Grit
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To: Nachum

That’s OK. This administration won’t be around long enough to enforce this mandate. Screw ‘em.


20 posted on 03/15/2012 5:57:37 PM PDT by GenXFreedomFighter (RIP, Andrew Breitbart. It was just too soon.)
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To: ottbmare

Many will still vote for Obama.


21 posted on 03/15/2012 5:58:06 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Nachum

This is the end of their administration. I refuse to participate.


22 posted on 03/15/2012 6:00:07 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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Please ping me to note-worthy Pro-Life or Catholic threads, or other threads of general interest.


23 posted on 03/15/2012 6:01:21 PM PDT by narses
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To: butterdezillion; narses; Nachum; little jeremiah
The Catholic Church should close their hospitals and use the buildings for something else.

That's what the Commie-Fascists want.

24 posted on 03/15/2012 6:05:29 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear (No More RINOS!)
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To: ExTexasRedhead

Seems I remember the obscene headline when this filth was inaugurated was ‘UNDO YOU”, referring to President George W. Bush. (Was there a picture of Odickhead with Mooch next to a picture of President Bush getting on the helicopter to leave? Of course, remember that trash couldn’t be bothered to watch President Bush leave as they hurried to make their restaurant reservations.)

Little boy, your head will spin with the undoing we will do when you and your ilk’s butts are thrown out.

We will throw sunlight on ALL your secrets.


25 posted on 03/15/2012 6:06:33 PM PDT by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: Nachum

Obama knows what he is doing...he knows the Church will stop offering insurance...thereby increasing the pressure to adopt a single payer system...


26 posted on 03/15/2012 6:09:51 PM PDT by bike800
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To: Nachum

Who the hell are you, you smarmy puke residue? And the same can be said of your stinking boss Obama, whose human value is lower than sewage.


27 posted on 03/15/2012 6:14:21 PM PDT by alstewartfan ( 27 of 36 Romney judicial appointments were DEMOCRATS!!!!!)
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To: Nachum

So let it be written .... So let it be dunn ....


28 posted on 03/15/2012 6:18:08 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: bike800

This whole thing is directed at getting a single payer. The individual mandate is not the problem, because just having to get a certain dollar amount of insurance coverage from independent companies or post a bond is exactly like automobile insurance. You have to buy a certain minimum dollar amount of coverage. Depending on your record, it can cost more or less, and you can also buy more of it if you wish and have assets you want to protect. But you have to have the basic amount or in some states you can post a bond that would cover that amount. (That said, the amount is way too low for most accidents.)

But controlling the specifics of what is offered and directing exactly how the payments go is a whole nother thing, and that’s what people are not understanding. The Marxists in our government ultimately want a single payer system; but in the meantime, they are achieving this end by imposing their highly specific “coverage requirements” on the insurance companies, which have become de facto government (and Planned Parenthood) agencies.


29 posted on 03/15/2012 6:22:46 PM PDT by livius
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To: EternalVigilance

Just ask Arlen Spector.


30 posted on 03/15/2012 6:23:17 PM PDT by funfan
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To: backwoods-engineer; dead
Carney to bishops: Birth control decision is final

No, dead is final.

Maybe we'll send him to talk with Ears!

31 posted on 03/15/2012 6:25:04 PM PDT by sauropod (You can elect your very own tyranny - Marc Levin)
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To: butterdezillion

I think they must stay open and defy doing the state dictates, even going to prison if need be. Shutting the hospitals is only what Obama destroying America desires. If it hurt us, he is for it. Citizens will hopefully finally surround hospitals in throngs not letting the state in. Let people realize how evil these people are. Let us not go softly into the dark night.


32 posted on 03/15/2012 6:27:43 PM PDT by Bellflower (The LORD is Holy, separated from all sin, perfect, righteous, high and lifted up.)
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To: Grizzled Bear

But they wouldn’t want it until after the election and they would want to take over the Catholic facilities.

If this happens before the election the people will see the choice they have BEFORE they have to make it. And that would be very dangerous for Obama.

I’ll attach a joke that illustrates the point, I think:

Heaven and Hell

While walking down the street one day a Corrupt Senator(that may be redundant) was tragically hit by a car and died.

His soul arrives in heaven and is met by St. Peter at the entrance.

“Welcome to heaven,” says St.. Peter. “Before you settle in, it seems there is a problem. We seldom see a high official around these parts, you see, so we’re not sure what to do with you.”

“No problem, just let me in,” says the Senator.

“Well, I’d like to, but I have orders from the higher ups. What we’ll do is have you spend one day in hell and one in heaven. Then you can choose where to spend eternity.”

“Really?, I’ve made up my mind. I want to be in heaven,” says the Senator.

“I’m sorry, but we have our rules.”

And with that, St. Peter escorts him to the elevator and he goes down, down, down to hell.

The doors open and he finds himself in the middle of a green golf course.

In the distance is a clubhouse and standing in front of it are all his friends and other politicians who had worked with him.Everyone is very happy and in evening dress. They run to greet him, shake his hand, and reminisce about the good times they had while getting rich at the expense of the people.They played a friendly game of golf and then dine on lobster, caviar and the finest champagne. Also present is the devil, who really is a very friendly guy who is having a good time dancing and telling jokes. They are all having such a good time that before the Senator realizes it, it is time to go.

Everyone gives him a hearty farewell and waves while the elevator rises.The elevator goes up, up, up and the door reopens in heaven where St. Peter is waiting for him, “Now it’s time to visit heaven...So, 24 hours passed with the Senator joining a group of contented souls moving from cloud to cloud, playing the harp and singing. They have a good time and, before he realizes it, the 24 hours have gone by and St. Peter returns.

“Well, then, you’ve spent a day in hell and another in heaven. Now choose your eternity.”

The Senator reflects for a minute, then he answers: “Well, I would never have said it before, I mean heaven has been delightful, but I think I would be better off in hell.”

So St. Peter escorts him to the elevator and he goes down, down, down to hell...Now the doors of the elevator open and he’s in the middle of a barren land covered with waste and garbage.

He sees all his friends, dressed in rags, picking up the trash and putting it in black bags as more trash falls to the ground. The devil comes over to him and puts his arm around his shoulders.

“I don’t understand,” stammers the Senator. “Yesterday I was here and there was a golf course and clubhouse, and we ate lobster and caviar, drank champagne, and danced and had a great time. Now there’s just a wasteland full of garbage and my friends look miserable. What happened?”

The devil smiles at him and says,
“Yesterday we were campaigning,
Today, you voted..”


33 posted on 03/15/2012 6:33:21 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: RedMDer

They need to make sure they do it BEFORE the election. Like several months before the election so people can see that there are long waiting lists to see a doctor, and the hospitals are overrun - even while hospitals lie vacant SIMPLY BECAUSE THE DOCTORS AND NURSES WOULD NOT BOW TO THE DEVIL AND WORSHIP HIM.

Unemployed doctors and nurses - having to collect unemployment benefits - simply because they would not commit what they believe to be murder.

Because that’s what this is about. Women can get contraceptives and abortions. This isn’t about access to “services”. This is about FORCING CHRISTIANS TO BOW AT THE ALTAR OF SATAN. A choice that Muslims don’t have to make because they already bow at the altar of Satan; in fact, one of their own (the Muslim-in-Chief) is the one demanding that only the “infidels” bow.

And people need to see BEFORE THE ELECTION that there is a heavy, heavy price ahead if they go along with this route.


34 posted on 03/15/2012 6:42:10 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion

They should close their doors tomorrow.

That would reverberate all over the country and let anybody in doubt know that they mean business and WILL NOT BOW.

Carney has relayed Obama’s answer; now let the Church give its answer directly to Obama.


35 posted on 03/15/2012 6:45:02 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: Nachum

And we thought nothing like Nazi Germany could ever happen here. Get a load of the little Hitler wannabe in the White House.


36 posted on 03/15/2012 6:47:46 PM PDT by pallis
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To: muawiyah

I read this is Art Carney’s son. Could this be true?


37 posted on 03/15/2012 6:53:05 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: butterdezillion

There is not enough time to see the results of a decision to close anything before this upcoming election. The threat is there and that is what can be done now and publicity of what that action will cause.
Our First Amendment Rights are the issue. Make it widely known and don’t be distracted by what the Left will try to make a single issue as important as this is.
The Left is trashing our Constitution.


38 posted on 03/15/2012 6:58:28 PM PDT by RedMDer (https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default.aspx?tsid=93)
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To: stephenjohnbanker
Let us see how many Catholics vote for Obama a second time.

Too many.

39 posted on 03/15/2012 6:59:27 PM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: FatherofFive

No doubt.......congrats on being a father of five!


40 posted on 03/15/2012 7:03:17 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: Nachum

President Scar: “I’m king - I can do whatever I want”


41 posted on 03/15/2012 7:06:09 PM PDT by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Hope springs eternal - maybe the Bucs will break .500 this year)
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To: combat_boots

I doubt it....Art is too old, if he is still alive, that is.
Jay is a REAL POS


42 posted on 03/15/2012 7:07:34 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: butterdezillion
The Catholic Church should close their hospitals and use the buildings for something else.

If the Catholic Church had any balls they would send a real message and excommunicate every pro abort politician in the country.

43 posted on 03/15/2012 7:09:13 PM PDT by suijuris
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To: Nachum

Yeah well, on Nov 6th we will hopefully have the final, final word on this issue.


44 posted on 03/15/2012 7:15:13 PM PDT by IAGeezer912 (Carpe Diem, Per Diem, Doris Diem)
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To: GenXFreedomFighter

“This administration won’t be around long enough to enforce this mandate.”

Yes, by the time this is thrown out by the Supreme Court they will already be long gone.

I really hope that even those in the mushy middle, those who retain a remnant of sanity on the left, and those who do not give a hoot, can see the fascist impulses of Barack Obama.

No Mr. President, you are NOT empowered to order churches to violate their religion, even if they are running a place of public accommodation.


45 posted on 03/15/2012 7:16:51 PM PDT by jocon307
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To: combat_boots

From Wiki on ART Carney:

He had three children with his first wife, Brian (born 1946), Eileen (born 1946) and Paul (born 1952).

Also, per Wiki, the WH Carney was born in 1965.


46 posted on 03/15/2012 7:27:31 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: Nachum

They elected a king.

This is monarchy, not a republic.


47 posted on 03/15/2012 7:29:41 PM PDT by Skooz (Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us)
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To: RedMDer

If they closed their doors tomorrow it would get the point across.

It wouldn’t have to be a permanent thing so they wouldn’t have to make permanent arrangements. But it would say that they’re not messing around, and it would give the country a taste of what they’re asking for if they let Obama have another 4 years - 4 years in which he doesn’t have the threat of being voted out of office hanging over his head.


48 posted on 03/15/2012 7:30:46 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: Nachum

“Carney to bishops: Birth control decision is final”

Until January 20, 2013, that is.


49 posted on 03/15/2012 7:32:52 PM PDT by Road Glide
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To: Nachum

The Obama administration lays down the law to God’s church - I wonder how that’ll come out.....


50 posted on 03/15/2012 7:33:31 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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