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Pool-mageddon avoided for now
The Washington Times ^ | March 15, 2012 | Stephen Dinan

Posted on 03/16/2012 7:29:58 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Edited on 03/16/2012 8:59:36 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

The Justice Department on Thursday issued a 60-day stay of execution for hundreds of thousands of public pools which had been required to install ramps and wheelchair lifts by today or else face lawsuits over violating disability laws.


(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Outdoors; Society
KEYWORDS: ada; jimdemint; nannystate; obama; obamao; poolmageddon; regulations; swimmingpools; wheelchairs

1 posted on 03/16/2012 7:30:01 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

What a bunch of IDIOTS!

(Yeah, I know, “So what else is new?”)


2 posted on 03/16/2012 7:32:33 PM PDT by BwanaNdege (Man has often lost his way, but modern man has lost his address - Gilbert K. Chesterton)
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To: Eric Blair 2084; SheLion; Gabz; Hank Kerchief; 383rr; libertarian27; traviskicks; bamahead; CSM; ...

Nanny State PING!


3 posted on 03/16/2012 7:32:40 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Occupy DC General Assembly: We are Marxist tools. WE ARE MARXIST TOOLS!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

What good is a ramp in a pool? You can’t take the wheelchair into the pool...


4 posted on 03/16/2012 7:34:14 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman
What good is a ramp in a pool? You can’t take the wheelchair into the pool.

I remember seeing a photo of handicapped parking spaces outside a skating rink. The lunacy continues.

5 posted on 03/16/2012 7:37:00 PM PDT by Oatka (This is America. Assimilate or evaporate.)
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To: Boogieman

You are not talking to rational human beings .... think, Democrats and Progressives are not rational human beings!


6 posted on 03/16/2012 7:38:25 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (There's a pill for just about everything ... except stupid!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

A 2 month delay. Big whoop.

Obama is basically forcing cities and towns to shut down public pools.


7 posted on 03/16/2012 7:44:53 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
"DOJ have been forced to admit they made a big overreach and are now retreating with a two-month delay on this unnecessary regulation,"

No, they were just publicly embarrassed by being laughed at. They are putting it on hold until people forget about it.

Remember that the DOJ lawyers under Obama are the same ones who will make millions of dollars suing owners of pools who don't have the equipment once they reenter private practice, and they aren't about ready to give up on this potential gravy train.

8 posted on 03/16/2012 7:45:04 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (You only have three billion heartbeats in a lifetime.How many does the government claim as its own?)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

The Founding Fathers never intended for the government to be playing this kind of bull**** with the American people.


9 posted on 03/16/2012 7:45:09 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (The first lesson you learn as a pollster is that people are stupid. - Dem pollster, Tom Jensen)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Tough luck. I mean, really, is that all so hard to say? Sometimes it has to be said - we’ve spent almost a trillion dollars in this country to comply with one of the shining examples of federal overreach - ADA - from billions sent to schools to rework every jungle gym to ensure a mythical person who will likely never be at that school can get to and use the facilities while in a wheeled device.

We’ve spent hundreds of millions at schools to cut down the number of toilets and urinals so that most all of them have the ability to be used by someone in a walker, a pretty uncommon occurrence at most elementary schools. Billions on making sure that every bus, including ones which only go along dirt roads, have the ability to accept a passenger in a wheel chair. We’ve spent even more billions to chop up perfectly good sidewalks to put in ramps, even if three feet in either direction ends in a 4 foot drop off.

We’ve got those stupid annoying dot mats surrounding virtually every business to keep a blind person from blundering into traffic, even if it rips the joints on the elderly in walkers - because, hey, disability vs disability, the winner goes to the percentage of disability.

Really, suck it up, understand that people do things to make it convenient for the majority of people, and your special needs doesn’t make you special. Suck it up and ask for some aid up those stairs, carry a dang stick to push the top button in the elevator.

Above all, kill this damn law. Or at the very least, geld it, and remove the courts from having the open power to seize wealth without restriction. Make the maximum payout be $250 IF the fix is $250 or less. And that includes lawyer fees.


10 posted on 03/16/2012 7:46:12 PM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
When I lived in Charlotte, NC I frequented a bar (I no longer drink) where the owners wanted to manage its patronage. They did so by assuming the status of a private club and granted membership to whom they chose. A new member had to fill out a short form and pay half a sawbuck.

11 posted on 03/16/2012 7:46:47 PM PDT by I see my hands (It's time to.. KICK OUT THE JAMS, MOTHER FREEPERS!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Much of the ADA is utter nonsense and has been for years.


12 posted on 03/16/2012 7:46:54 PM PDT by Mears (Alcohol. Tobacco. Firearms. What's not to like?)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

This seems like more pure Cloward-Piven to me.


13 posted on 03/16/2012 7:52:52 PM PDT by denydenydeny (The more a system is all about equality in theory the more it's an aristocracy in practice.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Anybody know where I can lease a cement truck. I will make a killing filling up hotel and public pools this summer...


14 posted on 03/16/2012 7:54:00 PM PDT by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks; potlatch

Swimming is the only activity where my disabled grandson can be free of his limitations. I’d rather have the pools open and make the special effort to get him into the pool than have the pools closed for all.


15 posted on 03/16/2012 7:56:13 PM PDT by ntnychik
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Before I get flamed.....I do not think that it is the duty
of government to provide pool access to handicapped. I am a
scuba diver and have read about special accommodations for
handicapped to certify them to dive. Most activities that
are adaptable to handicapped still have them sitting in a
chair of some sort. Diving puts them in a weightless
environment that lets them get out of that chair. From what
I have heard it is a wonderful experience for them.
16 posted on 03/16/2012 7:59:18 PM PDT by CrazyIvan (Obama's birth certificate was found stapled to Soros's receipt.)
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To: kingu

“Really, suck it up”

I was sitting in the doctors parking lot last week and a gal got out of the driver’s side of a car parked by me, grabbed some crutches out of her back seat and then went around, on her crutches, to the passenger side.

There she helped a younger woman with another pair of crutches, grabbed the other woman’s purse - helped her out of the car, etc.

The passenger had a cast on her ankle. The driver only had one leg! I got a kick out this obvious pro at getting around (and driving) helping out the younger gal with the bad ankle.


17 posted on 03/16/2012 8:01:43 PM PDT by 21twelve
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

These pools exist at rehab facilities and hospitals. If a public pool does have them, they will also need trained people to operate them, and physical therapists to work with those in wheel chairs to make sure they are safe. In short probably 100K per year, per pool in expense, and since these are public pools guess who will pay the bill?


18 posted on 03/16/2012 8:06:44 PM PDT by LukeL (Barack Obama: Jimmy Carter 2 Electric Boogaloo)
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To: Mears
As much as I sympathize with the handicapped, what if after that the paralyzed person CAN'T SWIM? Must we have lifeguards at every hotel hot tub?

I thought the ADA meant "reasonable" accomodations. If Stephen Hawkins wants to go for a dip, is it "reasonable" to make sure his keyboard doesn't electrocute everyone in the pool? Let alone himself? Does the ADA "require" that he have a personal swim attendant?

19 posted on 03/16/2012 8:11:20 PM PDT by boop (I hate hippies and dopeheads. Just hate them. ...Ernest Borgnine)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Hotel pools are NOT public. They are private property and there is no “public” access. One must be a paying customer of the facility to access the pool.

what part of private property do these people NOT understand?


20 posted on 03/16/2012 8:18:56 PM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Just shut'm all down, let Atlas shrug...but be sure to post the reason why.

POOL CLOSED, POOL CLOSED
21 posted on 03/16/2012 8:21:07 PM PDT by FrankR
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To: boop

The ADA assumes that EVERYBODY is handicapped. Nobody is capable of doing anything without the help of our overlords.

Parhetic bunch of crap.


22 posted on 03/16/2012 8:24:38 PM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Here in Louisville they are digging up every sidewalk and placing plates with raised dimples at EVERY intrersection. This is so blind people will know when they are off the street. Most neighborhoods have never even seen a blind person in them.


23 posted on 03/16/2012 8:27:36 PM PDT by anoldafvet
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To: darkwing104
Anybody know where I can lease a cement truck. I will make a killing filling up hotel and public pools this summer...

Find a need and fill it.

24 posted on 03/16/2012 8:30:26 PM PDT by Disambiguator
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Thanks for the ping!


25 posted on 03/16/2012 8:35:58 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

It’s more expensive to do things when one is handicapped.

The government’s solution is to make it more expensive for everyone.

We’re doomed.


26 posted on 03/16/2012 9:03:04 PM PDT by Born to Conserve
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To: Gabz

I wonder how many of us opposing this mandate supported smoking bans?


27 posted on 03/16/2012 9:12:17 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Occupy DC General Assembly: We are Marxist tools. WE ARE MARXIST TOOLS!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
I wonder how many of us opposing this mandate supported smoking bans?

My dear FRiend, although I know exactly what you are saying, I must object to your pronoun use. Anyone who supported the smoking ban is not one of "us" as far as I am concerned. They may be FR members, but they are not FR believers.

Of course that is only my humble opinion.

28 posted on 03/16/2012 9:36:45 PM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Oh but it’s going to only get worse......some places, are forcing public pools to institute certain hours for “women only” or to have separate pools....for you guessed it, The Religion of Peace.


29 posted on 03/16/2012 9:39:31 PM PDT by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: Mears

“Much of the ADA is utter nonsense and has been for years.”

And who is the ex-Senator you can thank for that?

Hint: he’s a Republican who ran for president....


30 posted on 03/16/2012 9:41:43 PM PDT by Road Glide
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To: I see my hands

Unfortunately, that may work in North Caroline, but declaring private club status is not so easy in other states. I know because I’ve looked into it in regard to smoking bans.


31 posted on 03/16/2012 9:43:57 PM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: LukeL
In short probably 100K per year, per pool in expense, and since these are public pools guess who will pay the bill?

That, sir is the issue. These are not PUBLIC pools. Hotels are not public places. In order to use the pool facilities one must be a paying guest. They are not open to the general public.

If they were only discussing public pools, you might have a valid point.

32 posted on 03/16/2012 9:53:28 PM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Prime example of what government overrun in the name of “fairness” gets you. The original disability regulations weren't too bad, but they did trample on the rights of small business owners. Now, every activity that a normal healthy person can do needs to be regulated/stepped on so even a quadriplegic can participate.
33 posted on 03/17/2012 3:46:43 AM PDT by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

NO REGULATION WITHOUT LEGISLATION! We need to stop the massive laws being passed by unelected agencies.


34 posted on 03/17/2012 6:57:31 AM PDT by eccentric (a.k.a. baldwidow)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Obama wants to kill children.

If this happens, pools will close, kids will not learn to swim and if they fall in water 2 inches over their heads, they will drown.

Something like 75% of blacks cannot swim, which is a tragedy. Not only the loss of enjoyment but the certaintude of death from minor incidents.

And it’s Obama’s fault.


35 posted on 03/17/2012 7:19:27 AM PDT by cyclotic (People who live within their means are increasingly being forced to pay for people who didn't.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Q: What do you call a guy with no arms and no legs in the water?

A: Bob.

(Sorry - someone had to do it...)


36 posted on 03/17/2012 7:30:23 AM PDT by Peet (Cogito ergo dubito.)
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